Thought this could be a pretty good thread. I would like to see a column added to the board that always shows who the op is as well as the most recent poster. My only other suggestion would be to add a mgboard button on the bottom of threads so that you don't have to scroll all the way to the top to return to an updated board. Any other ideas?
Board improvment suggestions
I would also like to see a thread rating system in addition to the up/down votes for posts, so, user's can rate a whole thread on a scale of 1-5... because sometimes, an OP will be good, but the thread will be crappy, and vice versa sometimes an OP will be crap but if you read the replies they're good.
This added feedback mechanism would help further sort the signal from the noise.
and actually possible. I just implemented it in a Drupal site I run using these instructions.
That would be bothersome if you're typing a reply. Or if you're reading a comment when the page refreshes.
I am opposed to refreshing as well. However, if it were to be done, you can have it check to see if you are typing a comment before it refreshes.
I would rather see AJAX implemented to get new comments, but I don't really see that happening.
Limit posters under 1000 to only be able to start 3 threads a day
go fuck yourself buddy
he's not your buddy, guy.
he's not your guy, buddy.
he's not your buddy, friend.
actually it's, "He's not your buddy, pal."
(and then "he's not your pal, friend" and concluding with "he's not your friend, jackass!")
EDIT: Nevermind... maizenbluedevil fail. I'm pretty sure you were going for the South Park thing, and I erroneously mixed it up with the Ocean's 11 thing.
beat me to it. Nanoseconds!
he's not your guy, friend
you see what I did there?
Apparently, judging by his response, which shows an obvious lack of netiquitte or social skills, the poster to whom you refer is trying very hard to experience the banhammer, so the problem might take care of itself soon.
Since we're on the topic of points and suggestions and whatnot. I have a question- when you neg the OP, does that effect their point total? Because the points next to the post never changes. By the way I'm not saying I want to neg you, this is something I've genuinely wondered about.
That's true it always shows "1 point" regardless.
I wonder why.
If you look at the voting details you can see all of the votes for the OP. I don't know why the number doesn't ever change. Glitch in the coding? I do know for sure you could see the overall change from your neg/posbang if you refresh the thread.
Good to know, thanks. Now if only I had to time (or perseverance) to go back and neg every one of k06em01's threads...
Kidding, of course.
yeah, we're all well aware that you have nothing but free time.
Jeez...you had 800-and-some points last night. How are you at -59 now?
It was quite a night
There goes the thread tracker
I think he's waiting for those "bonus points" he referenced in one of his rants.
it was quite a night and i wish you were there to witness this wonderously chaotic fiasco of which we speak
At first I thought this was the Dr. Saturday (aka Hinton) and got a little excited (I don't know why).
Based on your avatar, though, I would guess you are not Matt Hinton.
a very good guesser because as you noticed based on my avatar it should be painfully obvious that i am not Matt Hinton
baseball has pitch counts, we need thread counts. Limit the number of threads someone can start per day.
I say let points be the limiting factor - 1 thread a day for every 500 pts up to 2000, then unlimited threads above 2000? (assuming that if you have more than 2000 you are a conscientious member of this community)
I think you should never be allowed to change your avatar. Stick with it once you choose one.
I identify people by avatar first and foremost and screen name second... if i see a familiar avatar, I know who it is so when people change their avatars it's just confusing.
also, people shouldn't be allowed to choose an avatar that's already in use.
Every now and then I see someone else w/ my exact avatar and it creeps me out b/c it's like meeting my MGoDoppleganger.
I haven't stolen your avatar, but I have thought about it. That picture of Branch is one of my favorites in recent memory. If you ever leave mgoblog -- I call dibs.
I think I'll be here awhile though, just so long as I refrain from posting any more pictures from the OSU locker room. =)
FYI that was my avatar as soon as the new site launched, therefore I am cool. I don't know why I just said that.
I felt dirty changing my avatar, but this one just describes my finals-induced state of mind so much better. Now that I know it has taken a toll on my fellow man, I will not change it again. My sincerest apologies
That just comes with the territory of using one of the most beautiful, iconic photos in recent Michigan history.
Sorry, but your avatar is just too awesome.
So do you know it's me before even looking at the name?........
My old one was McGuffie's face crudely MSPainted onto a wolverine.... oops.
Maybe a voting system that automatically deletes crappy threads. This would keep the board clean and save us all time.
Or how about the ability to delete your own MGoPost, even if someone's commented on it?
People just post. They don't worry about their audience. They don't try to impress anyone. They don't force the irreverence. They don't try to audition to be writers for the WLA or any other blog.
They just POST. They have fun. They don't take it too seriously, and don't take college football too seriously.
And most of all, they don't try to pose as some moral authority on anything.
Are you k06's new sc?
My money is on The Fifteenth.
Or at least I hope so. The symbolism would be fantastic. That being said, lets not be jerks about it and go on a witch hunt for the new reincarnation of k06 or KOB or tomhagan. Let bygones be bygones and embrace the death of one handle and the rebirth of another.
I'd be more impressed if he just stuck with it and worked himself out of the hole. -200 is not insurmountable if he just learns to chill out.
please don't take my ability to post threads based on points, I don't have the time to respond or start new threads all the time. When I get a few hours to myself, which is seldom then I like to post news I've read or talk about issues. Sometimes I have started a few threads on a particular day but then days go by where I don't post anything.
So please don't sacrifice the many to kill off the few.
It should more be about how long you have been on here as well as points. If you have a year it should be worth something, say 500. 2 years 1000 etc. That way people like you and I who post occasionally or in spurts don't get banged. I have been on here for a long time and joined around a year and a half after I started reading. I am not saying I have the greatest threads/posts on here but I don't post just to post and if I have something i am interested in putting on here I don't want to be restricted. Most posters, probably 90% on here who repeatedly post meaningless threads or just post to post are new or never get on here enough to know what has already been posted or don't care etc.
Add a point for every day that you have been on the board. That would fix it.
Yeah, I'm like you. I've been on here since the old Wolverine Den shut down and everyone migrated to this "new" site some guy named Brian was running. That was about 3 years ago?!? I finally joined last spring. It has been interesting to watch the evolution of the blog from my position.
I'd like every link to open in a new tab/window automatically (i.e. without my right click action). Often with so many links buried in each main blog post, I like to be able to click them as I'm reading and keep the original story up so I can finish reading. And then even if I'm finished reading that post, I like this site enough to just want to keep it open in general so I can refresh every so often and get the latest posts.
Just my humble .02.
Edit: Just realized we're talking "board" here and not "blog"...but I suppose my suggestion is universal. I mean it moreso for the blog though.
This is actually frowned upon in the web dev community. I really hate it when sites take control of my browser, and I vow never to write a site that does so.
You have your right-click, that's what it's there for. Even better, you can set up firefox to open a link in a new tab on middle click. I think internet exploder 7 & 8 do the same thing.
a voucher for a free lap dance at a local gentlemens club?
I would like to know when someone rreplies to a comment of mine, like maybe the thread link in a different color or something. Just sayin'.
I know this isn't exactly what you are looking for, but it is how I get around it. Click on "My account" in the bar on the left. Then click track. That will show you all of the threads you have commented on. There will be a link with "x replies" that you can click that will take you to the newest comment in the thread. It won't necessarily show you who commented on your posts, but it will show you who commented in a thread you commented on, and you can go from there.
how will he know you gave him this advice?!
Yeah, that works too, but I just go through the posts that I've commented on to check. thanks though.
A UM blog obviously needs a maize and blue theme, and that is done here. The ads aren't usually obtrusive to me, though one or two have been in the past. However, Brian puts in a lot of work here, and deserves to monetize his blog as he sees fit.
Back to those ads, didn't someone write once that the ads are sometimes different from user to user based on their cookies, account information, etc? Anyway, my screen is only showing three ads right now; that is not the least bit obtrusive to me.
I suggest updating the tracking. Sometimes I want to find an old post, but when I click on my posts, it doesn't show anything.
..when there are more points than total characters
....I'd never have anything to post.
Especially if the poster puts "OT" in the title.
Only suggestion would have been to not allow a certain new member to start threads, but I see that has basically been taken care of.
As you get into long comment trees, it can be hard to figure out who a comment is replying to. It would be nice to have lines that you can follow to go back the the comment that was being responded to. Right now, I have to put my cursor on the left side of the comment, then scroll up until I hit the comment I was looking for.
That and/or collapsible comment trees so that we can get to comments at the bottom quicker.
Look here to see what I mean:
less kittens. I now equate kittens with bad news
How about a mobile site? This site is impossible to get on while I'm in class.
I wonder how many people view this site on mobile devices. I'm not going to get my hopes up, but I would really like a version tweaked for mobile browsing.
...too often I see comments getting negged simply for having a differing opinion. I'd like to see that stop. Some of the newer members are taking things waaaay to personal and overlooking one of the key reasons we blog: opinions - different or no.
There are also a lot of power hungry people who take mgopoints as if they are Chucky Cheese tickets and if they get 1000 they can trade them in for a goddamn slinky, so they post simply to gain points with disregard to the quality of the post.
While there isn't a perfect way I would suggest this:
A. Don't give a point for merely posting a comment. This will cut back on the senseless chatter from posters who are just posting to build up their mgopoints or to get out of the negative.
B. Award 5 points (rather than two) for a plus vote on a comment. This will encourage "good, intuitive, thoughtful and humorous" comments and cut back on the waste. If you're in the negative and looking to get out - simply make good comments or threads. You'll be out in no time.
C. Make it cost one point to neg someone, but it will take 2 points off total. This is the only proposal I'm hesitant to suggest but I believe it will cut back on people who neg others for simply having a different opinion, which IMO is frustrating. How many have you have looked at a post and thought "Why was that negged?" The worst trolls will be neg-banged to oblivion anyways, that's the way it should be.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Comments?
You've got some really good points here, so naturally someone is gonna ding you for them.
However, I will mention that (c) is something I've seen Brian allude to here in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if it were a football offseason addition to the MGoBoard.
My suggestions: Bring back TomHagan and King of Belch. Their absurdity always brightened my day. Of course, it may be that one of those two is the current poster currently going position by position trying to determine depth charts for 2010. You know, the one who has lost over 1200 points in the last 12 hours.
I agree with you on all of your points. Although KOB and TomHagan could be annoying, it is always good to have a different opinion. The problem comes when the Mgoridicule gets to the point where they have a melt down and all goes to hell.
The one point from above I have a problem with is taking away the point for posting. I think that would make sense once someone got above the 20 point threshold. I think the current system sets the bar low enough that it is easy to get new posters. If we had a system that made it more difficult for new posters to become a "trusted poster" I think it would lead to a situation where it would be difficult to expand the community. Although I may be in the minority, I think making the mgoboard more inclusive would lead to more opinions and better discourse.
Twenty is too low. While we don't want to discourage new members who have something legitimate to say from creating threads and diaries, if k06em01 wished to make a return with a new name it would take him all of a few hours to amass a sizable amount of mgopoints. I don't necessarily think we need to create a trusted poster tag, because those of us who have been around for a few years know who is trustworthy, and I think all of us can distinguish the cream from the trolls. I think increasing the point threshold, or perhaps coming up with an arbitrary length of time which one has to be a member before given the ability to create content would be good ideas.
These are good suggestions. I really like A and C, I think getting a point just for a comment rewards, well, just commenting. Not much else. Also, if someone really dislikes something enough to negbang it, he should be willing to donate a point to do so. I have commented before (whilst getting negbanged) that people are too promiscuous about neg and posbanging.
But I dont get B. It seems that awarding 5 points per posbang will foster a lot of clutter, undoing some of A's good work. People will post more pictures, animation, and videos just to get the easy points. Plus, points will go through the roof and become less meaningful. It means a lot now if someone goes into the red, and it should. It is a good communication device. We know that person has been up to no good. Getting 5 pts per posbang will make an overall neg status too difficult to achieve, making bad habits more, um, habitual. What am I missing in B?
...that 5 points for a posbang will make up for the lack of points for a single comment. The majority of posters have insightful comments, but there is some excess that is the result of simply commenting for the sake of building points as discussed earlier.
I still think that you should get mgopoints for commenting, it will just have to be, well, good. Points will be rewarded for being "good" - points that don't contribute won't. Simple as that.
Basically, it will dissuade purposeless comments and reward good comments. Is 5 too much? Maybe, but if there are no points for simply commenting, the good ones have to have a way to be made up in points since they aren't getting one for merely posting.
Then again, its just an idea.
I really don't think that solution would solve the problem you think it would. I think most of the "excess" comments are just people having fun, being obnoxious, relieving boredom or just posting to essentially hear their own voice. I don't think many people are posting just to increase their mgopoints once they get above 100. Maybe I'm wrong. I just think once you get above a level where you feel safe the points don't really matter unless you are getting hardcore neg-bombed.
That being said, maybe I'm really off on this point. I feel like the only way to cut down on the excess comments would be to enforce strict adherence to the exact topic at hand. I'm pretty sure the mod's wouldn't want that and the majority of the board probably wouldn't either.
Things aren't exactly perfect, but I think they are pretty good by internet message board standards. The only real problem is that there are too many neg-bangs for simply stating an unpopular opinion. I would advocate having negative votes costing the voter a point.
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