Coming on to explain the Jarrod Uthoff transfer limitation situation.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Bo Ryan's likely explanation: "what can I say, I'm an asshole."
What a petty little prick.
This dude says the kid never talked to him, then says he told the kid to call him if he has second thoughts about it when the kid told him he was leaving. That sounds like they talked about it. Then he proceeds to whine about how, as a coach, he's left out of the process after the kid wants to leave. Just let him leave, you big douche.
His major issue, other than the obvious, is that he was not told why Uthoff wants to transfer and this is supposedly part of the process to make him appeal and explain where and why he wants to transfer.
Would Bo Ryan try to restrict what other men a woman could see until she explained to him why she left him? Sounds like it. One of you should give him a hug and a pat on the shoulder and tell him, as gently as possible, to grow up and get over it.
"Oh, you're breaking up with me? Fine, you can't date any of my friends, anyone I see on a regular basis, or any of your ex-boyfriends. Oh, and while we're at it, nobody who's taller than me. So yeah, you're free to go date any chicks you want or short dudes that I don't know. Have a good day."
Don't forget anyone with a larger . . . you know.
a lot of 15 year olds would try that. i don't know about 64 year olds like bo.
Middle aged coaches don't get broken up with, they cause break ups.
It sounds like Ryan wants his kids to grovel, not "explain."
I like the part where the Mikes call him out on the comparison between professional contracts and a college scholarship. Ryan cites the "fine print" on a scholarship. Never having been a scholarship athlete, I'd be curious what some of that fine print includes.
Out clause 1: If you transfer, your coach reserves the right to be a douche.
Douchebag of the Month!!!
although he did nail a hot woman in Jessica Dorrel.
It's OK for the football team to actively recruit transferring QBs, but if a current Badger wants to leave it is heresy.
As is customary on the WWL, Cowherd is going to talk about what Mike and Mike talked about for 2 hours. This may be a rare occasion where this site will agree with something Cowherd says as he is calling Ryan a turd.
Wisky's Sports Info guys should have had him much better prepared for that. It sounds like they just sent him in cold.
He did say at the beginning of the interview that he just got done working out and ESPN contacted him. Not an excuse, just sayin. Commence Alvarez facepalm.
Dude totally got dogged out of his appearance, which had been hyped all morning.
Perhaps some good practice for being the Brady Quinn of next week's draft?
That was brutal to listen to. I'm shocked that Ryan let that go on because he clearly was hurting his own case through the course of the interview.
Anything outside of screaming at referees is probably not in his comfort zone.
In Soviet Wisconsin, Bo Ryan tells you where to transfer!
Bad PR... so easy to cause, so hard to fix.
John Beilein's conditions on Evan Smotrycz were Bo-esque. Couldn't go to Big Ten or anyone on Michigan had already scheduled for 2 years.
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanCBS) April 19, 2012
What Bo Ryan did is on an entirely different plane.
From what I remember hearing on Mike and Mike, Bo blocked him from all of the B1G (standard), but also ALL of the ACC ("because of the chance Wisconsin would play against him in the B1G/ACC challenge in the next few years"), Marquette (because they are local/scheduled), and Iowa State.
MIchigan blocking Smotrycz from schools on the schedule for the next 2 years is not that big a deal because the schedule is not even set yet. The only extra schools that included for Smotrycz was Iowa St, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Arizona. Our B1G-ACC opponents for the next 2 years are not even set yet, and theoretically, we could still draw Maryland sometime in the next 2 years in the Challenge.
Ryan blocking the ENTIRE ACC and randomly Iowa State is what makes this situation different. I can understand why he blocked Marquette (intrastate rival) and the B1G.
The schools other than the Big Ten that are restricted are probably 5-8 major teams and a lot of mid-majors. Not exactly the end of the world
OL Mark Hill transferred from Michigan to MSU on 1985. He started against us in 86.
It's pretty much a Big Ten rule that you can't get a scholarship at another Big Ten school if you transfer.
We're not complaining about him blocking the B10, its about him also blocking all the Wisconsin schools, Iowa State (though who gives a f about Aimes, Iowa), and all of the ACC. Slightly excesive, no?
Iowa State's the one that makes this vindictive. The kid is from Iowa and might want to be closer to home. That's really dickish.
I despise Bo Ryan's actions, but keep in mind that Iowa State has pulled in two transfers from MSU over the past couple of years. So maybe Iowa State is on the list because they've been purposely poaching kids lately.
Both of those MSU guys were kicked off the team by Izzo. As with Royce White, who was kicked off of Minnesota.
So, Iowa State is the B1G's dumpster. Maybe Ryan was trying to do the kid a favor.
I was drawing a distinction between Beilein's "Don't transfer to anyone we're absolutely going to play in the next two years" and Bo Ryan's "Don't transfer to anyone of whom I don't approve"
Right, and the other thing, you tell a kid as good as Smot that he can't go to Alabama A&M, and he's not exactly gonna be tore up about it. The obvious telling difference of course is that he did go to an ACC school.
You can now receive a scholarship at another B1G school after transfer. But I think it will now be standard operating procedure to block transfers within conference. That part is not unusual.
At least Beilein's conditions were rational. Ryan's sound like he either used a dartboard or figured out what schools Uthoff would be interested in and kiboshed them out of spite.
I understand the Big Ten thing, and sorta agree with it. As long as the rest of the conference is doing the same thing, you almost have to do it to avoid being at a competitive disadvantage.
Ultimately, though, if players already have to sit out a year, they should be able to go wherever they want. The best thing about Ryan being a prick about it, and appearing to choose schools for his "list" solely to hurt Uthoff, is that discussions like this one are happening in a lot of places.
As far as I'm concerned, Christian & Brundidge could have gone to another Big 10 School. I know they won't ever change the rule, but if someone has less than some threshold of minutes in the season, say less than 5% of total game minutes, I'd be ok with them going pretty much anywhere.
I thought I had head somewhere that the penalty for an athlete transferring form one B1G school to another was an additional year of sitting out. If that isn't enough to discourage a kid just let him go ffs.
Boren only sat out one year when he transferred to ohio.
Boren only sat out 1 year, but B1G schools have an agreement not to accept scholarship transfers from other B1G schools. So Mr. Plow paid his own way at OSU.
Did he "pay his own way" or did he get some visits from Mr. Bagman.
If you transfer from one Big Ten school to another you sit out the required year per the NCAA, but the Big Ten has a policy where you aren't allowed to be on scholarship. Boren for example, paid for his years at TSIO with his lucrative Snow Plow business
@JayBilas: Bo Ryan left UW-Milwaukee for Madison after just 2 years. Was his contract up? Was his "commitment" satisfied?
This seems to be the real rub with the guys on the radio. They are using this as a chance to further expose the hypocrisy of the NCAA trying to have their cake and eat it too by calling their student athletes amateurs but treating them like paid staff. Isn't Bilas one of the guys beating the pay the players drum?
Dackich was on the radio before Ryan and mentioned that the only time he went above and beyond the B1G's no B1G rule was when players had been tampered wtih and contacted by other schools. He banned those schools and contacted the NCAA about the impermissable contact..
I honestly don't see what the huge deal is. I mean Bo explained to Mike and Mike that his only option to prevent the kid from going to a competitor is to block those schools, and even then the kid can later appeal. Thus, if there are overriding circumstances that would supercede the competitive advantage the coach feels a player that has been practicing with them could give a team that they will play in the future, an arbitrator can determine that. Bo comes off as sounding petty if you hear the outtakes from the interview, but if you listen to the entire clip, he very calmly explains the process and then Golic goes at his neck, and disregards all the facts he laid out, and is almost yelling at a D-1 Head basketball coach on national radio after he was nice enough to answer a phone call from your thirsty producer on a slow news day. Now Colin is goin in on Bo because of course he has to defend Greeny and Golic. I'm no fan of Bo Ryan and was laughing at him initially until I listened to the podcast. There's already a rule in place regarding the Big Ten and everyone knows the B1G/ACC challange has been going on for over a decade. The kid has 4 years of eligibility left and its not like blocking him is the end all be all in the process anyway. Bo was simply playing the only card he had in his hand. You may or may not agree with it, but its not worth hours of bashing the man...to his face no less...because you dont have anything to fill your airways with this morning.
you could play them 2 or maybe 3 times a year--but why any other team that's on your schedule? This isn't football. It's one game. What's the big deal?
Bo's a good coach, and seems like a solid dude. I'm not sure what the big deal is. Wisconsin plays ACC teams every year. They play Marquette every year. And he's just trying to save a kid from landing at Iowa State.