His tirades nearly cost them their star player. Not saying I'm not a fan, but no thanks.
Bo Pelini Vote
but a NE friend of mine said the kid's dad was constantly interfering; even texting during game when he went to locker room to get an injury looked at. i didn't actually see the tirade, but in general, i think it's a good thing for a coach not to have favoritism to any player.
that said, though, i much prefer a coach to rip a kid behind the scenes (or in front of the team) if necessary; not in public.
i think it would be an outstanding hire but i question the likelihood.
My co-worker, next cubicle over, is a Nebraska alum. Told me the same story about Martinez hanging back in the locker room to text, while the game was ongoing, after having an injury looked at. He said that Bo and the kid's dad got in to an argument, and the dad threatened to have his son transfer.
I am now learning that Pelini is both from Ohio, and went to OSU, was Miles DC too. He is a GREAT candidate... but there is no way Harbaugh turns his back on his great mother in her most dire time of need.
1. Harbaugh is not coming to Michigan.
2. To the OP. there is no way Michigan has a shot at a B1G 10 title next year, yes they returned starters but it doesnt mean much if the starters aren't that good.
Enough already. The offense is good. The Dline is good. You have no idea how the LB's and Db's will look next year.
Tell that to MSU last year. You got blown out by Wisconsin and lost to Minnesota, CMU and gave up a bazillion points to Texas Tech in your bowl game don't even think of a Big 10 championship....oh wait what ?
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you'd be in Bolivia right now.
Pelini's ties to tOSU is a huge selling point in my opinion. He would immediately have an understanding of the rivalry and the importance of The Game, and would likely understand the importance of tradition and the M's history. I'm not sure why he would want to leave Nebraska, but he certainly seems like a viable candidate to look into.
Bo Coached at tOSU. You know, we are great at stealing players/coaches from Ohio, they all turn into GREAT SUCCESS! HIGH FIVE!
We need to find the best option, period.
Has anyone heard of what is to happen with RB coach Fred Jackson? We cant lose him can we?
Jackson was fired with the rest of the assistants. However, there's always the possibility that he could be rehired. Given his standing with the program, one would think that's a pretty strong possibility.
I think it seems weird to hire away another Big 10 coach. Other than that, he has a major temper and could probably use some therapy. He's the only coach I've seen get a penalty for yelling at the refs.
He always looks like he just saw his neighbor's dog crap in the front seat of his car.
He is offended by JH pooping his pants.
I always thought that Pelini reminded me on someone. Then I finally figured it out. He looks like one of the bad guys from 101 Dalmatians.
I don't think unhinged was one of the attributes Brandon mentioned.
I like a coach that walks a fine line with being a crazed animal but that guy seems like he has completely lost sight of that line.
I don't see an Ohio State alum leaving the other premiere job in our own division where he is presumably pretty well thought of and well paid so that he can take the Michigan job.
Tell me again which school Bo Schembechler came from?
And that other school down south
And Miami to Michigan makes sense. Moeller (perhaps the OSU alum you were thinking of) taking the job after years as a Michigan assistant makes sense. Leaving a top-15 program in the same division to take over your alma mater's archrival doesn't really make any sense.
And beyond his interest level, why would we want Pelini? If we want a crazy person, Les Miles has a better record and a hat that doesn't look like he found it in the bargain bin at some gas station.
So, he's not a candidate for this job because you don't think he might have the slightest bit of interest in coaching here?
We want him because as a DC he has gone to 3 separate NCGs and won 2 of them. Everywhere he goes, the defense improves dramatically. He runs the spread, so he's less likely to scrap our offense again. He played at OSU so he would fully understand the rivalry. If he improves our defense in the slightest way and teaches our offense to hold onto the ball, we will be competing for the B1G championship next year.
I just don't see it happening, don't think he's on Brandon's radar, and I'm not personally that high on him as a head coach because of his demeanor and lack of high level success as a HC. If he or his brother want to come run the defense I'm cool with that, but I think there are a number of better head coaching candidates out there who are also more realistic options.
I think he meets a lot of the criteria put forth by DB. Plus, didn't he talk to Miami (YTM)? I've heard that things aren't exactly warm and fuzzy between him and the NU Athletic Department.
Stealing Nebraska's (an in division Rival, no less) coach would be awesome. He'd shape up the defense, Denard would stay, and we'd have hopefully less attrition on offense. Moreover, it is a huge plus that he played at OSU. I think he's a big #1 candidate if this report is true. I am a little nervous I didn't see this report anywhere else though.
The fact is that Michigan and Nebraska are basically equivalent in terms of history and tradition, and Nebraska is in much better shape at the moment. Unless there was some VERY compelling reason (eg, Michigan is a major step up, which it is not), then no - I don't think he'd be all that interested.
Michigan would welcome him with open arms. I think NU is kind of pissed at him. Perhaps he's just trying to get a raise at NU, you never know.
Les Miles won his national championship wit Bo Pelini as DC, just saying....
As an aside, I don't think Les Miles is as awful as everyone makes him out to be. There have been plenty of coaches that have done far worse than Miles in similarly plum situations. If he had had an actual living, breathing quarterback the last three years, he may have tacked on a second national title. His ethics are questionable, and if that's the reason not to hire him, I'm fine with that.
10-2 this year with all his own recruits and no Pelini. As you said, swap a competent QB for what he's got and they win a national title this year. Give him Denard and they might have a wild card game scheduled this weekend.
I am ready and willing to embrace a Miles hire if it happens.
I have found myself agreeing with much of the content of your posts (no sycophant), but please watch this three times and get back to me about Les Miles.
I'll wait right here.
I guess I'm willing to give the guy a pass considering this is pretty much the nature of the beast for every school down there and he wouldn't have any chance to do it here at Michigan.
Also, Miles definitely isn't my top choice. Just a guy I think is at least somewhat likely/plausible who I wouldn't be upset to see hired at this point. If the choice is shady SEC recruiting tactics in the guy's past (while he was in the SEC) or a losing record as a head coach (Hoke), I'll take the crazy grass-eating SOB every day of the week.
57 is getting a little high for a head coach (JoePa is OBVIOUSLY the exception.)
I was referring to Schembechler being an assistant at OSU. I'm not saying that I want Pelini, or that he would ever even think about coming. I'm just saying that when it comes to coaches, their alma mater isn't always the most important aspect of their resume. They're looking for jobs and advancement in the industry like anyone else at any other job.
He'd fit in more with the Sparty or tOSU crowd.
coaching at and playing for are very different........
...he's pissed off at his employer (as rumored on the podcast) and therefore open to overtures from others that might also be a good "fit."
If we wanted something to solidify the rivalry between us and Nebraska, this would certainly do the trick.
this would be just another reason to hate on Nebraska. I never did like them and still don't.
If he is interested, so am I bring him in and let him loose. For his OC, there are few unemployed guys out there, who have run both the spread and prostyle offences successfully....
we steal their coach.
They still owe us.
He makes less money than RR made and DB is talking about paying more than that to bring someone in. We could double his salary without making him the highest paid coach in college football.
Bielema played at Iowa and coaches at Wiscsonsin. Bo (YTB) was an assistant at OSU.
he seems like a monumental prick.
So does Belichick.
disagree slightly on Belichick but speaking more generally but I have a firm "no assholes even if they'd win a million games" policy.
or have him coach your team?
Belichik is the icy cold type of prick who is eminently in control of his emotions. A bit like Saban, perhaps.
Bo Pellini is more the latter stages of an angel dust binge type of prick ... not that I'm necessarily opposed to his hiring. I'd love to see him actually scare the shit out of Rosenberg in a presser.
I'd love to see him actually scare the shit out of Rosenberg in a presser.
bring him in and let him loose.
Bo sounds pretty good.
would there be a discussion calibrating levels of prick
Guess that's the draw for me,,,,sick?
Don't answer that.
I think Harbaugh and Pelini are very different though. One is a pretty self-satisfied jerk but also a guy who his players seem to have genuine affection for. Pelini on the other hand looks like he's just an asshole.
I would take Harbaugh in a heartbeat on both the resume and personality fronts.
Right now, do we really need to worry about if our next Head Coach is a complete asshole or not? If the guy is a winner and does not cheat at the game then I'd say go for him.
I don't think having a raving lunatic (as Pelini appears to be) roaming the sidelines helps you recruit and in turn makes it harder to win games. I'm also not all that convinced that Pelini is a guy that will be winning loads of games long term. He inherited the perfect situation where the last coach was a great recruiter (SEE Mr. Suh) but a shitty coach (SEE Bob Stoops' luck at Oklahoma as well). Everyone embraced him and gives him the benefit of the doubt there when all he's really done is win the Big 12 North twice. Gary Barnett did that 4 out of his last 5 years at Colorado and still got fired.
So for me, the jury is still out on Pelini the head coach. I could see a rude awakening in the Big Ten next year.
He might get a rude awakening, but it won't be next year. Michigan is down. MSU is overrated and has been destroyed by good defenses. Iowa loses a bunch of seniors. Minnesota and Northwestern.
Bo wasn't exactly calm on the sidelines. In fact, he looked alot like Pelini on the sidelines. Remember, both Bos came from the same part of Ohio.
I had to answer.
for exactly that reason.
We don't need angry internet message board level prick, but slightly enraged head coach level prick is always a plus in my book. Although, he may have to tone it down somewhat as "kids these days" don't really like to be told to work hard, especially those who transfer to OSU: cough-cough Boren cough.
This would not be a good thing to resore our integrity - hire a nutcase with anger issues?
Why would Bo Pelini leave Nebraska for Michigan right now? I just don't see it happening.
I don't think he gets along with the AD at Nebraska very well. Not to mention money. He makes less than RR made and Brandon is talking about paying lumps of cash to someone to come in here.
You're right. I realized after I posted that Osborne was the AD there. When I read articles, sometimes they don't have titles listed before the names so I rely on context to figure it out.
I actually cringed when I first heard Bo Pelini the other day but I seriously think he wouldn't be a bad hire. He definitely would not be my first choice but he would do some good -- Ohio ties, defensive guy, coached with Les Miles and is now clashing a bit with Nebraska's AD. He could quite possibly be interested if called.
As much as I respect both Pelini, and Fitzgerald, I'd rather not take a head coach from another Big Ten team. Makes me feel weird thinking about it.
I think it would be fun. The last time we poached a Bo from within the conference, it turned into a hell of a rivalry. Why not up the ante and create another one by swiping Pelini?
I doubt he comes after a few years in the B1G, but in transition it's for sure fair game.
I think I just crapped my pants.
No way it would happen so why even discuss? Oh yeah...we're like Notre Dame now....
Bob Stoops. Now we're Notre Dame.
I heard Gruden's name come up way before you mentioned Stoops. That is the official "We are ND" barrier and we blew through it days ago.
Also, after someone threw KC Keeler's name on the board the other day, I think I would be happy with him leading our squad. He has a very similar resume to the one Tressel had before he came to OSU. He's 50ish, so still has probably 20 years in him. He already coaches a team with wings... He played LB, we could definitely use an upgrade in coaching at that position... etc..
I also think Keeler would be a great fit. He runs the spread and is very well respected. I grew up in the Youngstown area when Tressel was punting babies for National Titles in 1-AA and Keeler's "aura" in the Philly area (I live here now) is similar.
I believe he signed a contract extension that has him @ Deleware until 2019, but I'm too lazy too google. Either way, Michigan should easily be able to triple his salary.
double post, argh.
I think the problem you run into with Keeler is getting him here. I think he would be a great hire, but he is to Delaware what Pat Fitz is to NW, except he has won a NC. The guy played at UD and is a coach that is taking them to their third NC appearance under him since 2002. Does he want to go from the local hero and big man on campus to a relative villain (yes, I have a hard time believing people wouldn't vilify a hire like that)?
He also coached a Division 3 powerhouse at Rowan before moving to Delaware. I think the more knowledgable fans could certainly get on board with that kind of track record (especially with what I expect to be immediate success barring major departures for whoever comes in).
Not sure a guy like that is on the radar especially after the "we'll pay top dollar" statements from DB, but not somebody who would/should be vilified if we go after him.
I think it would be less villifying for keeler than rodriguez when he left WVU because WVU was viewed as a good BCS level job. i think people here would be a little bit more understanding because he'd jumping from FCS to BCS
however, delawarians don't have much else to hang their hat on than UD football
just found this article today
it's 3 days old and keeler says he's set but i found this the most interesting part
Keeler has drawn attention from I-A schools in the past. That included Michigan, whom Keeler said had contacted him after UD's run to the national championship game in 2007, where it lost to Appalachian State. "That whole Michigan thing was for real," Keeler said. "If [current coach Rich] Rodriguez hadn't taken the job, I was one of three they were going to bring in for an interview. That was Michigan. That was pretty flattering."
Not sure if that's 100% true but I never heard that we had looked at him 3 years ago. doesn't sound like he's moving
I just can't see this happening. This would be totally different than bringing in Tressel in from Youngstown St. Prior to going to Youngstown St, Tressel spent 11 years as an assistant at DI, including his last three years at Ohio State. Also, almost all of his career was spent in the Midwest meaning that he understood the region and recruiting there.
Keeler on the other hand has never coached at DI at all. His only experience is on the East Coast with Amherst, Rowan and Delaware. Also, outside of this year (where they've made the FCS finals), his season record since 2005 are as follows: 5-6, 11-4, 4-8, 6-5-- hardly anything to write home about. The 11-4 season was Joe Flacco's senior year, while this season is Pat Devlin's senior year-- so when he has won recently he's had the advantage of big time transfers from D1 schools and suffered otherwise. Hell, until this year he hadn't even finsihed higher than 3rd in his conference since 2005.
A 50-year old career FCS guy with no DI experience, no experience west of New Jersey, who has one conference title in the last five years? This may be the only candidate they could hire that would make me wonder if Brady Hoke wasn't available.
Why don't we go after Dantonio and JoPa too?
I know DB hinted that money is no object, but it seems like a lot of coaches that are being brought up (Mullen, Pelini, Miles, Patterson) have signed large contract extensions in the past few years, which implies they're going to be with their programs for the long run.
You think that matters to coaches? They're mercenaries, by and large.
hiring away a conference head coach like Pelini or Fitzgerald seems to be bad blood. Like the RR WV meltdown x 100.
Assistant coaches - sure - does anyone know of a college head coach bailing (not fired) and going to a conference team that worked out?
If you want to go back a lot further, Bruce Snyder left Cal for Arizona State and took them to the Rose Bowl.
Are we worried that all ten of those Northwestern fans will come down on us like a ton of bricks? More likely they'll just crack open a Chardonnay, sit back in their easy chairs, and direct some strong language in our direction. (Hey, this is fun, being able to use the "Chardonnay drinker" line against another fan base!)
He chews his gum very aggressively.
Bo II? I'll TAKE IT. He even played at Ohio State.
Thing is, he comes off like a meathead, an over-caffeinated high school phys-ed coach, but I would look past that due to (a) Pelini no doubt understands The Game and (b) this would hurt a Big 10 front-runner, and one of our biggest rivals moving-forward, for next year.
No matter who he's coaching, Michigan or Nebraska... I can't wait for a Pelini-Beileima match-up. The meatheadedness levels will be off the charts!
Over/Under on a post game headbutt?
Over/Under one? Or do you mean odds? Cuz I'd set the O/U at 3.5.
...would turn the Wisconsin post-game presser into a DSF (double-skull-fuck) of the Freep.
Honestly, other than his monumental temper, he seems like a good hire. He pretty much has everything we would want in a Michigan coach. But man, that temper is a red flag.
Actually with the increase in coverage by MSM, probably alot closer to Bo Schembechler than alot of people might think.....would NOT be open to the public......and from everything I have heard out here in Omaha, he does get along with the players. Supposedly alot of issues with Martinez due to parental conflicts.
I remember another guy named "Bo" who had a "monumental temper" and he worked out OK. In this era, though, it seems like coaches are expected to coddle a lot of their players. Then we wonder why so many exhibit a sense of entitlement.
He assaulted sideline markers and punched a camera man. He was eventually fired for punching a linebacker on the opposing team.
To be fair, he did win multiple national titles, so I guess I could live with that.
Bo (YTB) was an 8 or 9. Bo (NTB) seems at that level, too.
Bo Pelini is a good defensive coach and that is what we need, and he may be able to keep Denard here
NFW. Bo is out-of-control and Carl is certifiable.
Besides, Bo throws like a girl.
Actually, he throws like an ogre. I wouldn't date any girl that throws like that.
Honest question: Why would Bo want to leave Nebraska to come to Michigan?
He's done the hard work of recovering from a bad coaching hire and bringing the team back to where it was. You think he wants to jump to a similar situation and do it all over again? Not to mention, within the same division?
Doesn't make any sense to me.
This guy went to the Big 12 championship game two straight years and brought that program back from mediocrity. Also, its not like he's coming from a subpar football program. Nebraska is a legendary program. And now, people actually expect him to leave all that to coach a team that's not only in his conference, but in his division? A fanbase that just ripped a non "Michigan man" to shreds over three years? So he's going to go from probable division dominance and conference contention for at least the next 3-5 years to what is currently a middle of the road Big Ten team with a furious fanbase? Are you serious?
We're really grasping at straws here.
I'd take Pelini, Mullen, or Malzhan from Auburn as a wildcard
There was a flightaware flight from Willow Run to Lincoln yesterday evening!
Not joking, but likely not serious, as the flight continued on to Las Vegas. Maybe DB and Pelini are playing some craps right now.
Not the Michigan jet -- the Michigan jet is in Miami (again) and then heading to Tampa. Not sure if they boarded a diffrent flight or what but I don't think it's likely.
I hadn't thought of him until I listened to Brian's podcast, but he's my #1 choice right now by a land slide.
A bit impressionable, are we?
I hadn't thought of him until I listened to Brian's podcast, but he's my #1 choice right now by a land slide.
A bit impressionable, are we?
and then remember he's a more vocal prick than Harbaugh
I don't think my brain would be able to handle all of the "Bo" references and name catch phrases, etc.
When I saw this thread, the first thing that popped into my head was the pic below. Taken from this Texas season review in MS Paint thread. (HT: MGoUser Florida Blue for posting it on the board awhile back.)
I think of that every time Bo Pelini is mentioned hahahaha i love Shaggybevo MS paints!
That stuff is awesome X 1,000,000. Of that whole year in review set, this slide is the one that just makes me giggle like a fool.
We keep tossing around the same names. What about other coaches outside of the typically named?
I know they don't all fit the profile DB laid out but I would be pretty happy with any of them (even McDaniels)
Singletary took a talented 49ers team in a happless division, ie: perfect potential playoff conditions, and ran them so far into the ground they are still digging out. Not to mention the lack of recruting experience and multiple sideline/locker room blowups with his own players. That would be a terrible hire.
Mike Singletary is an absolute buffoon. I can't believe I'm turning to the guy with the tOSU avatar to be the voice of reason here.
Y dont we offer Bellicheck 20 million a year to come as well while were at it.
DB said hiring a D1 coach. So cross off all those names, and the mac coaches too!
How about Wis OC Paul Chryst.I heard yesterday he may be leaving for Texas.Lets get back to pounding the rock, and pounding Bielema.
If people thought Rich Rod was arrogant....nothing on McD
Would actually be a good hire - I'm surprised his name hasn't come up more often. Plus he is devoid of lisp....
I just like Pelini better. The only caution I have with him is that he may do with the defense what RRod did with the offense. Make it his sole primary concern while abandoning the other end of the system.
Having said all that - we all know Brady Hoke is the next coach. The blue grey hairs have spoken.
In fact fun game - coordinators when Hoke is hired:
Trgovac - defense coordinator
Loeffler - offensive coordinator (I know ....curveball)
"Soup" Campbell - WR coach
was a Suckeye- so I say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
cuz the last Bo from OSU sucked...you sir are an idiot
Bo Pelini would be a great hire...and so would Bob Stoops, Will Muschamp, or Jimbo Fisher.
Pelini leaving a program with as much tradition and support as Michigan and with a much better current team than Michigan is near impossible.
I just like reason number 4
Ryan Autullo ( Toledo Blade Sportswriter ) just tweeted
Source tells me he (or is it a she?) believes Nebraska's Bo Pelini would be interested if Michigan came calling.
please god happen
Before the Nebraska bowl game, Pelini sounded great to me, a scrappy coach, that works his players, likes tough defense and runs an offense similar to Rich Rod's. But after an awful showing, albeit the team is young, I'm not convinced about Pelini. And like I said, the team is young, why would he leave something good at Nebraska to rebuild Michigan?
Money Talks! Also, once we do rebuild, our great will be a lot better than their good!
I bet that source was someone from mgoblog. Just messing with the toledo blade. Could you imagine if BP was hired at UM. Ex OSU player coaching hated rivals, blah blah blah. No way. Id rather have Gary Pinkel.
Michigan insider tweeted a source says Bo would be interested if Michigan came calling
But if RR rubbed people the some wrong way, what are they gonna think about Pelini.
<Sigh> I used to look at your handle with an air of mischevious whimsy. Now, I find it tragically ironic...
Bo Pelini would be a bad replacement coach.
then I remember when we fired our "rebuilding" coach and it all comes back to me--the bad times, broken cherished records and streaks, divided fan base, crazy new coach scenarios............
All I can say to our new division rivals---this slump is temporary, know it hurts like hell, but Michigan will be back to being Michigan.........
and should be a great game in the Big House on 11-19.
Oh yeah, anybody got extra tickets?
Ya, just what we need in Schembechler Hall. A butt ugly Buckeye.
How about Chip Kelly from Oregon? Do we have a shot at him?
I currently live in Omaha, and from my perspective you've gotta be smoking some serious, high quality crack if you think Pelini would leave NE on his own. The only way he's leaving is if he's forced out for some reason.
especially considering he already said he wouldn't consider it even if he were contacted, but...
1. His teams are extremely undisciplined and don't keep their cool (see: A&M game). This is a reflection of Pelini. I would be surprised if he isn't fired from a job at some point for saying or doing something stupid.
2. The situation at Nebraska is the opposite of Michigan. If only they could find an OC. He keeps trying to get a West Coast coordinator to run a zone read offense, so they do a little of both and it has been awful. Sound familiar?
3. Taking over for Rich is very similar to taking over for Callahan. And while he was able to improve the defense rapidly, he tanked a very good offense within a couple of years (Taylor Martinez is very weak mentally. Very rarely do you see someone look so great against poor competition and so bad against good competition).
Be careful with #3. Pot, meet kettle territory...
And ran into the Nebraska team, coaches and boosters at Sea World...i found their fans to be really nice, the players to be just like any other team of rowdy young men and their coaches (including Bo) to be complete a-holes. Boosters I spoke with didn't hold Pelini in much regard....liked him, didn't love him.