Wow, I didn't realize they
You seen this?
You seen this?
"I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada." -Britney Spears
Saw
Saw has too many letters. I think seen is the hip, twitteresque abbreviation for saw.
I was half asleep when I
I was half asleep when I typed that :). Give me a break :)
The Michigan difference...
Hey this isn't the south, we
Hey this isn't the south, we have rules here. Make a grammar mistake, we tear you to pieces.
"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK
Fair is fair I suppose :)
Fair is fair I suppose :)
The Michigan difference...
wow impressive win for RR and
wow impressive win for RR and company. I think everyone was expecting them to get smashed
WHO CARES
WHO CARES
I do
I am really interested in how rr does in arizona
The SQUASHman
as do I
I'm happy with the progress Hoke has made, I don't hate Rich Rodriguez. I liked the guy, I liked what he was trying to do with the program taking it a different direction and gave us the human highlight reel in Denard. He was left with an empty cupboard of some hapless players and unfortunately surrounded himself with some questionable assistants. I hope he does well with Arizona. To me it's rather arrogant to hate on a guy who was one of our coaches. Half his problem here was a lack of support from alum and fanbase...you'd have thought we were in Columbus expecting undefeated seasons or a lynching toward the end. Some of you folks can be real pricks about pointless stuff...it's your way, or it's wrong and unacceptable. Whatever. GO BLUE. THANK YOU FOR HOKE, GOOD LUCK RR.
1/2 the problem wasnt the
1/2 the problem wasnt the lack of support... 1/2 the problem was that he couldnt figure it out on defense...
I'd agree
and part of my statement with surrounding himself with poor assistants, GERG is an understatement and he was real high on Shaffer, who didn't really do much for him...keeping in perspective as well that he was left with nearly zero talent to work with it was a bad scenario.
I'll admit his recruiting was suspect to boot, I think the WVA mentality of landing one or two 3* and filling in with whoever might sign probably set the bar a bit low but a few of the kids he picked up have turned out to be pretty solid players. Our defense even Mattison 2.0 is still making similar mistakes with whimpy ass arm tackles and leaving gaping holes in the secondary, struggles to shut down the edge etc. FAIR ENOUGH it's vastly improved, and leagues ahead of the last few seasons...but there is much work still to do.
My disappointment is with the
My disappointment is with the OP and with out of touch fans like yourself... Why stir up muddy waters? You say RR didnt have any supporters, but your going to pick apart one of the best defensive minds with petty arguments and by using CAPS to highlight your frustration?!
WHO CARES!?!? What's done is done!
With Wisconsin, Arkansas, Neb, Ok. St losing...
Uh oh - double post :(
With Wisconsin, Arkansas, Neb, Ok. St losing...
Michigan probably moves up a few spots while Arizona breaks into the top 25. I'll say Michigan #17, Arizona #21
Wow. This thread will be
Wow. This thread will be entertaining to say the least.
Section 1, you should be a
Section 1, you should be a politician. I love how you drive home a point without explicitly mentioning it. Those are some skills.
I liked RR too, he didn't get a fair shake from the administration. He did get a fair shake from the fans though No matter the crappy behind the scenes circumstances, you must produce wins. I'm glad he's gone, hope he does good in Arizona.
Now that the gorilla is out in the open...
Hail.
"Fair Shake?"
If what RR got from the neanderthal segment of the Michigan fanbase was anything remotely resembling a "fair shake," you had better hope Brady Hoke never has a bad season.
What if Michigan loses four this year? Are those same people going to second-guess Hoke and Borges? When a professional who is getting paid to analyze the game does it, it's one thing. But when fans start complaining, it's another issue altogether.
Michigan beat a clever and semi-talented Air Force team yesterday, but I don't get the idea that anyone is happy about it. As Arkansas and Oklahoma State learned yesterday, games like yesterday's can turn out a lot worse for the favored team than getting a hard-fought victory like Michigan did.
Better question, should
Better question, should Toledo be ranked ahead of Michigan too? They took that Arizona juggernaut to overtime -- on the road! -- just one week ago!
It's called perspective.
I'm not sure that anyone
I'm not sure that anyone would call Arizona a juggernaut, and Toledo lost to them. Why would Toledo be ranked ahead of Michigan, even sarcastically?
Sarcasm
Sarcasm meter broken?
So you understand he was
So you understand he was being facetious, yet you question the post? You're thinking a little too hard about this...
Thank you Callahan!
Where was
Thank you Callahan!
Where was the RR post after week 1? The mods should seriously delete anything Section1 post related to RR
If this were 2009,
I would say yes, Toledo should be ranked ahead of Michigan.
Impressive win for sure, and
Impressive win for sure, and I'm a believer that until you lose you get the benefit of the doubt. Michigan #19, Arizona #18.
RR certainly had Arizona's
RR certainly had Arizona's offense humming.
I think it is very likely
I think it is very likely that we will fall, even with the Nebraska and Wisco losses.
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
Uh, four teams in front of us
Uh, four teams in front of us lost to bad teams. The only team that could possibly jump us is #22 KSU who demolished Miami. We won our game. We will be either #15 or #16.
Btw, what's the over/under
Btw, what's the over/under for how many posts it takes before we get to dead horse beating?
Well, Ok State wasn't exactly
Well, Ok State wasn't exactly a powerhouse this year and nobody really thought they would be as the season went on. Arizona beat them in a good way, but they still have one solid win and like I said, this isn't the OSU (ok state) of last year. For now, I would put Michigan up a spot or 2 on Arizona, but early season rankings in general are just horrible. In my opinion, there should be no official rankings until week 5. Most of them are so massively flawed that there's almost no point in ranking them
Couldn't agree more. We
Couldn't agree more. We shouldn't even be ranked, much less have started the season #8.
I would think you have to
I would think you have to move Arizona into the 20-18 range.
Michigan is a bit harder as I subscribe to the theory that we don't know much about this team yet. Bama was vastly superior, and everything about AF falls into a category of anamoly. Maybe 22ish?
It's looking like it will be a rough year in the Big 10.
Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.
Michigan will move up to 15
Michigan will move up to 15 or so, Arizona will crack the top 25.
If we were going just on merit based on results thus far, I'd put Arizona in the top 10, with full expectations they would drop within the next two weeks.
Top 10?
They beat a questionably good OK State that lost a lot of talent from last years team and won in OT over Toledo - how does this merit top 10?
I said based on current
I said based on current results.
Whose got a better win than undefeated Arizona right now?
I'd put UCLA up there as well.
Alabama? LSU last night against Washington? Clemson? Georgia?
Teams that will be in the top 10 like USC, MSU, WVU, South Carolina, FSU, etc. haven't really done anything of note yet.
But by the end, they'll probably all be ranked ahead of Arizona.
(No Subject)
Where would you put undefeated Oregon State?
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
Or what about undefeated
Or what about undefeated UCLA? Or Louisiana-Monroe? After all, they both beat teams ranked better than Okie State, why aren't they in talks for being ranked? Why is it Arizona and RR?
Oh right, because it's a Section 1 post....
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Well, Arizona has ties to
Well, Arizona has ties to Michigan now for obvious reasons. Anyone who cant see this is being unreasonable. There's going to be an interest into how Arizona does, so I'd get used to it.
Some people will be genuinely happy for RR after the hell he went through here if they succeed. Others, due to wanting so badly to be right about him being the worst thing that ever happened to Michigan football - saw it a bit last night in the open thread - will revel in any failure and hope he bombs out so that they don't have to deal with the consequences of realizing that maybe, just maybe, they were a bit hasty in forming their lynch mob.
I'd rank OSU over Arizona and UCLA just behind. UL-Monroe would jump into the top 15, but no higher due to the fact that they are 1-0, it was an OT win and Arkansas lost Wilson.
I'd bump them up to the NFL.
I'd bump them up to the NFL.
Ok St is RR's new Notre Dame.
Ok St is RR's new Notre Dame.
Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail
Yeah, it's a tad early to
Yeah, it's a tad early to make that statement. If he goes 5-0 and misses a bowl game, then maybe you can throw that around.
Hail.
It is so clear, Arizona
It is so clear, Arizona should be #1. Are you happy now section1
What if...
...
What if...
... Hypothetically...
... Arizona SOMEHOW wins the PAC and Michigan wins the B1G???
There would be a very
There would be a very entertaining couple weeks on the boards in a train wreck kind of way. And I would lay money on section1 being pushed to the brink of one of the greatest meltdowns this board has ever seen.
Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.
I think that the arizona win
I think that the arizona win speaks more to the weaknesses of ok state more than the strengths of Arizona. Preseason rankings are a joke. There should be a rule that no team coached by John L Smith is ever ranked in the top 25.
You are referencing two teams
You are referencing two teams right? Because John L coaches Arkansas and not okie state.
He coaches Arkansas? You mean
He coaches Arkansas? You mean the Arkansas that was ranked #8 and lost to Louisiana-Monroe?
Even still
Arizona went 4-8 last year, had one of the very worst defenses in the country, and at one point last season were riding a streak of 10 straight losses to FBS competition.
Ok State is at worst a middle of the pack team in a BCS conference. Beating them by 3 TDs is pretty impressive under the circumstances.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
I agree to a point, but I'm
I agree to a point, but I'm not sure OSU is up to middling BCS rating yet this season. OSU had a weak defense last year (ranked 107 in total defense, 61 in scoring defense). They won by scoring bunches of points. But with their QB and top WR now playing in the NFL, there is a steep dropoff in talent and experience. They now start a true Fr at QB and have no go-to receiver. They still managed to put up over 600 yards of offense but also set a school record for penalty yards.
Look at it like this: Arizona
Look at it like this: Arizona stopped OSU on 10 out of 16 drives, for a 62.5% success rate.
Wow, I didn't realize they won last night till I seen this and looked at the box score.
Michigan #20
Arizona #19
The Michigan difference...