When it's NOT TRUE. oh wait, that's right... we're on the paranoia train lately.
Big Ten offers invites to Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Rutgers
because various radio stations and blogs have been saying this stuff and retracting it for weeks now.
NO DECISIONS WILL BE MADE THIS YEAR. AT ALL.
I'd love to be able to see the future, which, by your post, I can tell you so clearly can. If you can't, please refrain from making overgeneralized, sweeping statements like "no decisions will be made this year." It's early May. You have NO IDEA what will happen this year. While you're probably right, that doesn't mean that you definitely are. Furthermore, an invite is not a decision. An invite to join the Big Ten does not equate to actually joining the Big Ten.
With that said. I do have to say that I question the source of this article, therefore its validity.
Michigan is and will always be the greatest football school in the history of history.
...I definitely don't want it to be Rutgers. Why!??!?! Other than the New York market, there's no sense in inviting Rutgers. In my mind, it's Pitt or bust.
we please stop acting like Rutgers draw's the NY market! NEW YORK DOES NOT CARE ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND THEY NEVER WILL! DO NOT ALLOW THE MEDIA TO PUT IN OUR HEADS THAT THEY CARE THEY DON'T geezz sorry for the caps
Its about the market, not so much Rutgers fans or Alumni. I'm willing to bet there are alot of BigTen Alumni in the New York Market.
I lived in NY for two years and there are a ton of M and B10 alums there.
It's not about people actually watching. It's about Cablevision paying the Big10 $.70/subscriber/month. That alone is enough to pay for their entry into the Big10, let alone ticket sales, advertisements, extra games, etc.
It's about BOTH and this is something that constantly is misrepresented or at least misunderstood on this boad and in the MSM.
Currently, 60% of BTN's revenues come from advertising and 40% come from subscriber fees and advertising are probably growing faster than subscriber fees. Advertising rates are tied to ratings. This is one of the reasons that ND makes so much sense even though they are in the middle of the B10's existing geographic footprint.
If you want to really understand the economics, check out Frank the Tank (he has a number of posts on the topic that are excellent):
I understand your point. My point is that people say that Rutgers won't get the NYC market because no one cares about Rutgers. That doesn't matter as long as we get Cablevision because we get put in 3 million homes which gets us subscriptions (around $25 million, which is about what other schools in the B10 take in) and the additional B10 alumni in that area will increase our ratings and get us more advertising revenue.
I wasn't trying to leave all of that out, I was just pointing out that Rutgers itself doesn't bring us money and people don't have to care about it. We just need Cablevision and we will be set.
Maybe they don't care about college football b/c there is no real college football team to root for. Clearly they care about football, evidenced by the Giants and Jets. If in joining the Big Ten, Rutgers or Syracuse became a much stronger program, I doubt you have any idea how the New York market would react.
Not to mention that most Big East schools aren't big draws. No school in that league has anywhere remotely near the draw of Michigan, OSU or PSU. Bring schools like that to RU every other year and college football becomes a bigger deal.
Other than the New York market, there's no sense in inviting Rutgers.
And other than coach football, that Bo Schembechler guy didn't do that much. The NY market is kind of the point.
Is anyone concerned that ND isn't part of the AAU? If they join the b10 will they be allowed in shortley after?
So i don't think this is a big concern. I believe that in the even they joined they Big 10 that they would also join the AAU.
I'm going to wait and see if they camp with us this summer. I've heard bad things about Nebraska's work ethic and I'm not sure if Missouri has the test scores but if they impress the coaches at camp this summer I'm willing to extend an offer. Do we have enough scholarships available?
what about Pitt? Syracuse? Anyone else but Rutgers. They may go to the ACC with a move like this.
Not credible story though.
but it gives us an "in" to the New York market! Have you ever been in Manhattan on Saturday afternoon in the Fall? Everyone huddles around their television sets or flocks to a local drinking establishment to watch the Scarlet Knights do battle on the gridiron. If I could say one things about Manhattan, or New York as a state, it is that they LOOOOVE Rutgers football. Since no Michigan alums live in New York (which makes sense b/c nobody from NY goes to Michigan) it is unlikely that B10 football would be available there without adding a powerhouse football program from the region, like Rutgers.
SARCASM: If you didn't catch it, you must be dead or immune.
I am totally with you. The stupidity of the New York Market argument is mind boggling.
we constantly hear that while the NE is not necessary a great football market, it is a HUGE basketball market. In fact, you hear b-ball coaches down here talk about how nice it is to establish a coveted recruiting presence in the City and the rest of the NE. Again, I am not familiar with the NE and NY market (and Rutgers, for that matter), but do you think the b-ball angle is the one the BTN is trying to exploit? I would be curious to hear your thoughts as someone who lives in that area.
If that is true, then Syracuse, UConn would be the Big Ten's best bet for expansion. Both have more to offer overall.
Rutgers has 53,000 students. Many of those students are in-state (NJ) or relatively regional (NY, CT, PA) and therefore in the NY media market. Additionally, Rutgers has 335,000 alumni, again largely in the NY Metro area.
While they may not be rabid fans, 2 things will happen.
1) the local cable networks (Time Warner, RCN, Cablevision, maybe Comcast, but I can't remember) will have to carry the BTN on the standard tier and
2) all games will be sellouts, with higher ticket prices. This is because other B10 alumni will go to the games even if RU alumni don't care at all (or more likely RU sucks). If you don't believe me, just watch what happens when RU plays at the new Giants stadium.
Its not the Rutgers alumni they are after in the NY/NJ area. Rutgers is the "in" that gets the B10 Network into the region to reach the current Big 10 alumni living and working in the area. Rutgers is not the goal but rather and means to an end. That their alumni might in turn watch the B10 network is an added bonus, but not the goal.
Is it might give the reporters something to talk about besides Rich Rodriguez.
You're right, who am I kidding...
I found another site saying that too.
from the article
"The Big Ten Conference has extended initial offers to join the league to four universities including Missouri and Nebraska from the Big 12, according to multiple sources close to the negotiations.
While nothing can be approved until the Big Ten presidents and chancellors meet the first week of June in Chicago, the league has informed the two Big 12 schools, Notre Dame and Rutgers that it would like to have them join. It is not yet clear whether the Big Ten will expand to 14 or 16 teams but sources indicated Missouri and Nebraska are invited in either scenario. Notre Dame has repeatedly declined the opportunity to join the Big Ten."
You know, this brings up an interesting dynamic. The Big Ten already has people interested, if not outright begging, to join. If they can successfully add four schools, that'll make 15 and they'll have decimated the Big 12 and Big East in the process. The line to be the 16th would be around the block. Might be a way to get Texas in without bothering with A&M, hm?
I'm not quite sure how this gets us Texas actually. We really wouldn't have obliterated either conference in this scenario. If there is one school the Big East could afford to lose its Rutgers, they could offer Memphis or someone of that ilk and stay alive. The Big 12 would have no problem inviting TCU and or BYU/Utah to replace Mizzou and Nebraska.
I am convinced that Texas will join the SEC before the Big 10 in any scenario.
Uh, there's this thing called academics. Texas (adminstrators and decision makers) cares about it. The SEC really doesn't. I live down there.
they are flat out a better or as good of an institution as the following:
not to mention the other bottom feeders in the discussion (Rutgers, UConn, MIssouri etc).
I think that you are limiting yourself to football when discussing "bottom feeders" there. While Rutgers certainly applies, MSU and Indiana both have better programs than A&M in bball and MSU has done about as much in football recently. Uconn has been better in football AND basketball as has Missouri. Would I mind Texas A&M if it got us Texas? Heck no. Are the worth an offer by themselves? Equally heck no
EDIT: I reread the post and now can see that you possibly are referring to academics, where Texas A&M would be vastly superior to all your mentioned schools..
Actually, A&M would not be vastly superior to the schools he mentioned. According to US News' rankings of public schools http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-top-public A&M is tied with Minny (and Purdue) at 22nd nationally. MSU and Indiana (and Iowa) are tied at 29, not that far behind. 29 is pretty respectable for our "bottom feeders."
For discussion sake, Rutgers is 26 (within our range), Nebraska is 43 and Missouri is 48. Texas would be tied for 5th with Penn State as the 5th best school in the Big Ten. For people curious how the conference stacks up academically, here it is:
1 NW, 2 Michigan, 3 (tie) Illinois and Wisconsin, 5 Penn State, 6 Ohio State, 7 (tie) Minnesota and Purdue, 9 (tie) Michigan State, Indiana and Iowa.
I agree with MaizeAndBlueWahoo that Texas may still be a possibility. If the Big Ten were to first add Nebraska and Mizzou, quickly reel in Notre Dame with the Big East bluff, and offer Texas and Tex A&M to follow, it would mean the Texas schools would both be at a point of 3 options:
1 - stay in Big 12 while it considers adding TCU, Utah, etc.
2 - flee to the SEC, whose research standing is nowhere near the Big 10's
3 - join the Big 10 with it's A-list of national football schools (Michigan, Penn St, Ohio St, Nebraska, Notre Dame) and research powerhouses. We can all keep talking the "millions" of athletics, or look to the "billions" of research that a state like Texas understands extremely well.
I disagree that we wouldn't "bother" with A&M. I don't think it should be that difficult to swallow accepting another AAU member institute in order to secure a state with 24 million people, 99% of whom are raving-mad football fans (compared to the misdirected obsession with New York state's 18 million people, probably less than a third of whom are football fanatics to the level of a Texan,) or to get a collegial foothold of synergy in one of the largest research complexes in the world that is the Texas university system. This should really be a no-brainer: think about where U of M's real money comes from.
But, in the end, football! Texas, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Mizzou and Texas A&M. If we are going to expand, that's one hell of a lineup that would certainly not dilute the quality of opponents.
Why not go for the Boston market and grab UConn or BC, either of which provides better BB, football and hockey as a bonus?
I'm not going to believe anything until its official announced. However, I also believe that were theres smoke, theres fire. Some of these teams have been mentioned in almost every article/story. If this does eventually happen, I'd bet on Mizzou and Rutgers to be in. ND and Nebraska I'm not sure yet.
Also how do you know that no decisions will be made at all this year? Are you Jim Delaney? It wouldn't surpise me to see something announced next monday. It also wouldn't surprise me to see something announced January 1st. Truth is no one knows any facts except for Delaney and the higher ups at each university.
i thought that the big ten didn't give offers. Schools applied and then were voted on.
The B10 has had discussions with all of the schools mentioned during which it has outlined the general terms of the deal and told its leading candidates to submit applications by a certain date if they are interested. Delaney & Co. will review all the applications that come in and make a presentation and recommendation to the presidents at the upcoming meeting (first week of June, in Chicago). At the meeting, the presidents will approve (or not) some course of action and give Delaney the authority to hammer out the final details. It is much like an M&A deal where you use an investment bank to sell a company.
Rutgers would be OK for basketball because it would open up the East Coast for recruiting; it would also be great for BTN. And they would be another "game but overmatched" team on the football field. For providing this, they would get more money than they could dream of in the Big Least. Sounds like a win/win to me.
Not that ESPN is ever wrong but they just reported it on College Gameday Live so I'm assuming it has more credibility than dandy don posting it on his blog.
Miami is 60:40 to the Big Ten.
Do you mean That Miami?
If you are going to expand, go big or stay home.
I would be shocked if the Big Ten would make a change when we are almost in the summer. If anything, a change would be next year.
well I would assume there would be a one or two year period between the actual "joining" of the Big Ten until they actually started playing games in the Big Ten.
...have to also look at their other sports, rutgers and notre lacrosse just joined the big east, if they left they would have to go independent
If Rutgers were to receive an actual invitation to join the Big Ten, they will spend less time worrying about their lacrosse team than you will spend reading this sentence.
Anyway, Rutgers and Notre Dame lacrosse could join Ohio State in the ECAC--a conference that (unlike the Big East) has an Automatic Bid to the NCAA Tournament for the conference champion.
You wouldn't want Syracuse, the 11-time and back-to-back defending national champions and the greatest lacrosse program in NCAA history?
Rutgers also hasn't beaten Syracuse head-to-head in any sport this year, including...
Syracuse 31, Rutgers 13
what a boring day around here...
Hmph, embedding tweets doesn't work, lets try this again.
The Big Ten will offer Brandeis, Burkina Faso, and my friend Steve membership in the Big Ten, according to our source. #mybutttoldme
Missouri- adjacent to Big Ten territory, some rivalry connection, football/basketball competence, decent institution
Nebraska- See Missouri, except not basketball. Added bonus of Big Ten style football, traditional powerhouse
Notre Dame- Because you have to invite them at least, though I don't really want them anymore
Rutgers? No where near the traditional Big Ten midwest territory, not a traditional powerhouse in basketball or football, and not a stellar enough institution to raise the academic level of the conference. Rutgers doesn't have a current major sports following in New York, so why would it add more to the Big Ten? By that logic, the Big Ten should add Army too. Rutgers does not have the marketing pull that people seem to think it will have for the conference.
Call me old fashioned, but to me a conference should embody a certain geographical area, if possible, and Rutgers/Texas are fun ideas, but they just don't fit. The Big Ten is a midwest conference, so personally I am not comfortable going and farther south than Cincy or farther east than Syracuse or farther west than Nebraska. Add Pitt before you add a school like Rutgers.
Rutgers adds absolutely nothing in terms of sports cache. But as we know its:
can we send MSU to the MAC and get Central Michigan to replace them?
MSU academics are too low.
Where's Pitt? They are a team that should be considered before Rutgers and Missouri! I know Pitt/Penn State isn't a big rivalry right now, but with some time I see it becoming one of the bigger rivals in the Big Ten.
In a 2005 survey of northeastern college football fans conducted by ESPN I posted in another thread, Rutgers isn't even in the top-10 of favorite college football teams, behind Pittsburgh (#3), Syracuse (#4), Michigan (#6), UConn (#7), and Ohio State (#8).
If Michigan or Ohio State can't deliver the NYC market, why would Rutgers?
In NYC-specific surveys I've seen previously, Syracuse basketball ranked significantly higher (and is the most popular college sports team of any school or sport) in and of itself than Rutgers football.
Because we're going to be the Big 15? Nonsense. That's all this is.
can you make a five fit in between the letters T and E like this?
Hypothetically if this was real:
1) All 4 accept, we have 15 teams now, who is the 16th team?
2) All but ND accept, we have 14 teams now, stop or get 2 more?
Based on extending an offer to ND, I imagine that if ND says "yes" the 16th offer goes to Syracuse. If ND says no the offers go to UCONN and Pitt? Personally I'd go with Mizzou, Nebraska, Syracuse, Pitt, and UConn.
Like it or not, I think that Syracuse and Rutgers are a coupled entity.
There's no way that if the Big Ten wants to claim NYC, they let Syracuse AND UConn go to the ACC (SU is unquestionably on the top of the ACC's wish list - which should tell you all you need to know about the value of Rutgers).
It will not be UCONN as they are not an AAU school.
By that same logic Notre Dame is out.
just reported the same with a text blast. they tend to not speculate on such matters except when the idea smoke implies fire.
The Big Ten only offered Rutgers in case Nebraska fell through. It was a contingent offer. If Nebraska is willing to make a verbal commit, Rutgers offer will be rescinded. Of course none of this matters until National Signi- - - -
I'd rather just drop NW and go to 10.
I agree because dropping our best academic institution is a great decision for a conference as academically focused as the Big Ten.
When Indiana is the lowest ranked Big Ten school at #71, how much more sense does adding #96 Nebraska and #121 Missouri make?
It makes sense in terms of athletics and wile those two schools would then be the worst in the conference, they still are both long time members of the AAU so on the graduate level(where money is mad academically), they both are pretty decent. You can't seriously be suggesting you would rather us kick out NW can you?
No way on kicking NW out, there's no chance in hell that's even remotely considered or intelligent.
Outside of USNews, Missouri (IIRC) tends to grade out pretty well. They also just finished a $1BILLION (i think that number is right) fundraising campaign to spend on facilities and other academic stuffs.
I'm somewhat partial to Mizzou because I think in the Big10 they will rapidly climb the rankings so people that look at USNews at the be all end all of academia can breath easy knowing their fall back internet bragging point is still intact.
I'd rather drop you
Asked whether the report has any validity as it applies to Nebraska, UNL chancellor Harvey Perlman said, "None whatsoever."
BIG TEN ADDING USC!!!!!!
I like this group of schools
Because there's no way we get Notre Dame unless we blow up the Big East in the process, and taking away Rutgers does *not* affect the Big East much at all - they replace Rutgers with Memphis and call it a day, and Notre Dame will stay in the Big East for non-football sports and retain their beloved football independence.
Most likely the back-channel convo with ND will go something like this:
“The Big East is done-for, regardless of what you say. If you accept, we will take either Pitt or Syracuse, for a total of 16. If you decline, we will take both Pitt and Syracuse. Either way, there is no more Big East as you have known it.”
Yes, that would perfectly, 100% address my concern. I didn't bother to do the math that 11 + 4 = 15. Your situation makes complete sense.
Could be just one more head fake, but the timing and strategy make total sense.
(1) Timing: Most conferences have a June 30 fiscal year end and require their members to give 12 (or more) months notice to leave. Any schools invited need time (a month??) to complete their own analyses and obtain necessary internal approvals. Both sides also need time to negotiate at least the major terms of the deal. Additionally, I would think the B10 is in a slightly stronger negotiating position if it makes a move before the B12 and Pac 10 have time to complete negotiations on their expiring media contracts.
(2) Strategy: By taking Rutgers, the B10 makes major inroads into one of the Big East's strongest media markets (NY/NJ/Phila) and prevents any other conference (i.e., the ACC) from trying to beat them to the punch. Missouri and Nebraska balance out each other in that the first has great media markets and the second is a traditional football power on the upswing. The best part: ND will have to worry that, if it turns down the B10 invite, the B10 might respond by taking two additional Big East teams (Syracuse and Pitt), thereby destroying the Big East and leaving ND with nothing.
What happens to the other major conferences? The ACC and SEC probably start fighting over WVU, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville, and the Pac 10 probably gets serious about expansion and goes after Colorado (and Utah??). As the Big East begins to disintegrate, ND might come crawling back to the B10 with far less negotiating leverage. Similarly, if the B12 loses Colorado, it will no longer have St. Louis, Kansas City or Denver -- its largest media markets outside of Dallas and Houston. In such an environment, the B12 might actually unravel, making it possible for the B10 to at least make a run at Texas and Texas A&M.
The worst case is that the B10 picks up Nebraska (traditional football power) and several excellent new media markets for BTN while making life miserable for awhile for everyone else (especially ND). Being at only 14 teams, the B10 also keeps open the possibility of going up to 16 teams in a second phase of expansion if attractive teams become available as things play out. Score one for Delaney.
If I remember correctly, the Big East instituted a rule that a school has to give 30 month notice before they are allowed to leave the conference (done in the wake of the ACC "raid"). Plus, isn't non-conference scheduling done something like 4 years in advance for football? How would the FB schedule look in the interim for these schools, which are leaving one conference, but haven't officially joined thier new one, especially if the new Big10 FB schedule goes from 8 to 9 conference games (don't know if this would happen, but it's got to be a possibility, right)?
Non-conference games usually aren't scheduled too far in advance, save for the long term contracts between teams (like us and ND). We didn't schedule the UConn game for this fall until about a year ago. However, conference games are usually scheduled 4 years in advance or so.
Any team that joins the league will not officially do so for a few years. Penn State actually started playing Big Ten games I think 3 years after they announced they joined the league.
Big East rule is 27 months. And, yes, non-conference scheduling is an issue, but most of those agreements are relatively short and even have out clauses provided there is a certain amount of notice (the agreements are all over the place in terms of amount of notice, penalty payments, etc, depending on who had the leverage when they were negotiated). This is another reason the B10 would want to get this done sooner rather than later, so that any notices that need to be given can be given as soon as possible.
It's been said before, but I'll repeat it: NOBODY is trying to beat the Big Ten to the "Rutgers punch." They are completely off the radar in NYC.
Can the SEC make a legitimate play for Syracuse or Pitt, do you think? WVU and L'ville make some sense I think, but I have a hard time imagining the first two. Additionally, what happens to the SEC when Arkansas goes to the Big XII to replace Neb/Mizzou? They'll lose a serious recruiting footprint and important buffer zone. I mean, if you've got to lose an entire state, Arkansas is the one to lose, but I think it could be a significant loss.
I honestly don't want to see the Big 10 expand to 16 teams. Pretty soon, there will only be 3 or 4 conferences in America. It ruins the parody of college sports. HOWEVER... I am all for the Big 10 throwing the first punch. As much as everyone rags on the Big 10, they sure are the first conference to innovate the college sports landscape. They did it with instant replay. They did it with the Big 10 Network. They're going to do it with the first "mega" conference.
Parity. Unintended pseudo-homophone is still kind of funny though.
A pseudo homo-phony.
I heard an interview this afternoon on Sirius XM (Mad Dog Radio) with the former AD of Rutgers.
Basically what they were saying is that Rutgers is only in the fold if ND does not accept the invite. If ND does accept (assuming Nebraska and Missouri do), Rutgers would then be the 15th team, and either wouldn't get it, or would come along with another Big East team (Pitt, most likely).
If ND did not accept, Rutgers would make it 14, then the Big10 would either stop at 14, or add Pitt and probably Syracuse.
Of course, the former Rutgers AD was taking credit for them being involved in the conversation in the first place, since he worked on upgrading the stadium (to about 52,000 capacity), just for this situation (no, seriously, he said this). He also said that 70% of the state of New Jersey had a red "R" on the windows of their cars, and that NYC loves Rutgers, too, so take that for what its worth.
Absolutely false that 70% of cars have R decals on them. The number is still very small. There are more restaurants that have R decals in them, though, for what it's worth. That's up from zero.
NYC sports fans are notoriously impatient (same for Philadelphia fans while we're talking about NJ). However, tradition is important to them. The Yankees and Giants often invoke tradition in their promotions. Since the B10 has tradition, Rutgers could get a bounce, but ONLY IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. Prior to Rutgers, most college fans watched Penn State, but that was a little further out. There could be more collective interest if ND were to join the conference. Regretablly, I see as many ND shirts around here as Rutgers shirts. ND creates a lot of storylines that would generate some buzz IMO.
to include comments from schools involved
why can't we just make them all play each other?
any school in the country that wants in, enter your teams. do a country wide, multi-sport weekend long tourney. the schools with the best results get to be in the big ten, the number of teams accepted is at the discretion of the conference based on results.
this would be great to watch on BTN
The college football landscape will look as such five years down the road:
Big 10: Including Mizzou, Neb, Pitt, Syra, Rutgers
ACC: Adds Cincy and UCONN
SEC: Grabs WVU and L'Ville
Pac-10: Adds Utah and Colorado
What's left of the Big 12: Texas State legislature establishes a "Texas Football League", comprised of Texas, A&M, Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Kansas. Texas annexes the states of Oklahoma and Kansas in the process. Teams play year-round.
Notre Dame: Takes its football and goes home and wonders what it did wrong.
it has a buy out-as I remember it about 3 million dollars.
Everything I have read says $5 million.
I like all but Rutgers. The others make a lot of sense in terms of sport and geography. Rutgers only makes sense in terms of tv revenue. I'd prefer Pitt.
One--if these reports are true, then it's likely the presidents/chancellors are working like this: we offer v, w, and x. If v bites, then we offer y; if v and w bite we offer z, too. Etc. I note this because people are discounting the stories because they don't add up to an even number of schools. (Lesson: assume the honchos have put more thought into this than you!)
Two--this thing has for some time had a momentum of its own. The school heads may be feeling pressure to get the job done now in order to avoid lawsuits alleging they damaged the product of other conferences. . . or serious long-term anger over how things fell out. People claiming the timing is wrong may be way off base.
Three--I'd venture a guess that if they're offering ND they have had some behind the scenes back-and-forth already. Or are doing some serious arm-twisting of a little green guy in a backroom as we speak.
Wonder how all this will impair or improve M's long term prospects for championships in hoop and bball. Also wonder to what degree this may elevate ADs and athletic departments above academics long-term. . .
Can you imagine the TV ratings if BTN will air life the conference meetings between Delaney and the B10 universities presidents. Speaking of must see tv; that will be it.
I see it like this:
Rutgers is being used to let ND know the B10 could break up the Big East if they don't join.
If ND joins, there's one more spot, they could add Pitt, or better yet Syracuse and wrap up the NY market as much as is probably possible (ND, Rutgers, Syracuse). In this scenario, they got their prize in ND and can add one more school as they see fit.
If ND declines, there are 14 teams with two potentially open spots. The B10 makes an offer to UT/A&M, as losing MU and Nebraska likely spurs the breakup of the B12 . If the Texas schools balk, the B10 goes after Syracuse/Pitt to wrap up the East and follow through on the threat to the Big East/ND. Either way, they're at 14 so they could stop where they are without any further action.
For what it's worth, it's not on ESPN's front page. The conferences either cajoled or convinced them that everything was poorly sourced information.
The Big Ten will get 35 armies plus two bonus armies each on Yakutsk and Northern Europe, and will promptly launch an offensive that will eliminate the Big East and garner control of North America with fortified defensive positions in Central America, Iceland, and Kamchatka. This will ensure a steady five armies per turn thereafter, with a whithered Big XII struggling to maintain control of S. America and a paltry 2 armies per turn.
If we can successfully get the entire Big East to join with us, followed by Nebraska, Syracuse, ND and Texas...11 + 8 + 4...23.
Or...if we get Nebraska, Syracuse, ND and Texas, we remove Northwestern, fuse with the Pac 10, and remove Syracuse...11 + 4 - 1 + 10 -1...23.
Or even worse...23!...
(I hope Colbert fans catch this...)
Well, this explains why my high school classmates (Husker fans, all of them) are freaking out on facebook
Is it purely coincidence that lately all of these rumors are coming out of the Missouri-area?
Think Mizzou might be a part of this to campaign for themselves?