Per ESPN, the Big Ten Expansion is over. They stated they will monitor what is happening, but for now, Nebraska is it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5888109
No ND?
To quote the Big Ten
"Although the conference will continue to monitor the intercollegiate landscape, it will not be actively engaged in conference expansion for the foreseeable future and does not expect to be proactively seeking new members."
It's not in the market for new teams, but if new teams came to them they would listen. Balls in your court ND.
"... bitterness is no fun, faith is rewarded, the kids on the field are more resilient than we are, and sometimes they can let us borrow some of that."
- Brian Cook
ND
has no balls
1% of the MGoPosters have 99% of the negative points.
#OccupyBolivia
Wait..
The B10 no longer wants us for our football.. or basketball.. or hockey? Buh-buh-buh-buh but tradition, national recruiting! USC! LITTLE RED HEADS!!!!!!!!!
On the fifth night—possibly the sixth—a breeze arose.
It was cool and dewy.
ND?
ND knows that a real BT schedule would be a lot more difficult than what they play now. Their strength has been knowing how to schedule at least half of their games against teams that look good to both pollsters and computers, but aren't likely to beat an elite team. then, they fill out their schedule with USC, UM, MSU, and Purdue. Most years, an elite ND team should beat everyone except USC and UM, and have a great chance agains those two teams, depending on year-to-year matchups and fluctuations in talent.
If ND joined the BT and kept USC as their annual "rivalry game," it's very possible they might never win another National Championship. They would have to "replace" service academies and Big East games with teams like Nebraska, Wiscy, OSU, or PSU. That would make their schedule look a lot different than it does now.
And a lot tougher.
Yah we should schedule more
Yah we should schedule more Appalachian St and the Michigan Directional schools, sprinkle in some UMass for flavour.
Give me a break. Your bias
Give me a break. Your bias shows through yet again.
Strength of schedule according to Sagarin
NEB: 30
MINN: 38
UM: 40
ILL: 46
PU: 49
IOWA: 51
PSU: 53
MSU: 65
OSU: 68
UW: 71
NW: 73
IU: 77
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
Do you guys really care about ND?
I mean, they would be a great addition for a hockey conference, but other then that they don't really bring anything to the table IMO. The Bigten already has the Chicago market locked up and is almost available nationwide already. I think Nebraska was a much better get then ND ever could be.
How can you kill that which has no life
This is a good thing
14+ teams would be weird. We're not one of these wacky WAC/CUSA type conferences. 12 is enough. Let ND do their thing. Not sure if we should keep scheduling ND given that we now have OSU, Nebraska, and MSU on our schedule every year.
"I call that Communist football. I'm so tired of it. Good, red-blooded Americans snap the ball, hand it to the guy and have a normal run game or pass game."
—Steve Szabo, Michigan linebackers coach, November 2007
I differ
Not sure if we should keep scheduling ND given that we now have OSU, Nebraska, and MSU on our schedule every year.
I think we need the win, so keep ND.
Yeah they do
Notre Dame is a program that can still rise back to become an annual BCS contender after a spell of mediocrity. Even a long spell. Well, a very long spell. A very, very long spell...
At any rate, their ability to grab top-end recruits despite years of irrelevance says volumes about their staying power. And yes, they'd be a very good addition from a financial standpoint, potentially delivering the New York market, among a number of others, to the Big Ten Network footprint.
ND
I would take ND in a heart beat if we could "ask" either Indiana or Minnesota if they would seceed from the Big10. ND would run close to even in Basketball, but an upgrade in Football branding and create a buzz for at least a year of two in the football landscape.
"Everybody thinks of changing humanity, but nobody thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
"It's not in the market for
"It's not in the market for new teams, but if new teams came to them they would listen. Balls in your court ND."
Hmm, that sounds like the old "I'm not interested in a relationship right now" and then next week that person meets the love of their life and - BAM - they're in a relationship!
Quote from official statement
Although the conference will continue to monitor the intercollegiate landscape, it will not be actively engaged in conference expansion for the foreseeable future and does not expect to be proactively seeking new members.
So yes, we will take Notre Dame if they want to come, but we're not looking for anyone else at the moment...defining the moment as until either the Big 12 or Big East falls apart.
You hit the nail on the head
You hit the nail on the head Seth, the Big Ten can stand pat for now until one of those two conferences implodes and then come in and pick up teams. It's a shame Texas didnt come to the Big Ten when they had a chance, but maybe theyll have the opportunity in a couple of years.
Texas is calling the shots in
Texas is calling the shots in the B12, so I don't forsee them jumping to a different conference anytime soon. It's a different story if the B12 implodes. You also have to contest with the Texas legislature trying to make the Texas schools a package deal.
Its 2am and you hear a knock
Its 2am and you hear a knock on your door. You look and its a naked and slightly drunk Scarlet Johanssan. Would you let her in?
So will the Big 10 if ND knocks and about as fast as you.
I've never considered your scenario before.
Other than every time I close my eyes. Or right now. And yes, damn you, yes.
"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite."
Quite a fitting analgy.
Quite a fitting analgy.
W-H-A-A-A-T?!!?
Scarlett Johanssan >> ND, drunk & NAKED Scarlett Johanssan >>>>>>> ND. Nevertheless, I vote Scarlett..a definite yes, ND...pass, even drunk.
To hell
"To hell with ND!"
Indeed
Was just about to post this. Big Ten official link for those who want it:
http://www.bigten.org/genrel/120510aaa.html
"... bitterness is no fun, faith is rewarded, the kids on the field are more resilient than we are, and sometimes they can let us borrow some of that."
- Brian Cook
Well then,
Say goodbye to any chance of a future change in division allignment, and the ability to get Michigan and Ohio State in the same division....
Oh fun, lets open this stinky
Oh fun, lets open this stinky can of worms again.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
No, they'll still revisit
No, they'll still revisit things after 2012. At least two schools (Wisconsin and Illinois) are unhappy and have requested a revision, and the conference has assured them that the current divisions are not necessarily permanent.
The only problem I see with
The only problem I see with that is that they're in the same division. I sure hope they reconsider it, but I would understand if the Big Ten (or Twelve?) would argue that only one division is unhappy while the other is fine.
What is their beef with the
What is their beef with the new divisions (Illinois and Wisconsin)?
Wiscy is cut off
Not sure about Illinois, but I figure Wisconsin's not pleased with being cut off from their primary rivals - Iowa and Minnesota, and they were also hoping to start up an annual rivalry with Nebraska. They were 0/3 in that, although they do get Minny as a crossover game.
Trade Michigan for Wiscy and I'm happy.
"East" - M, OSU, PSU, ILL, IN, PU
"West" - NB, WIS, IA, MN, NW, MSU
The fact that MSU is isolated over there makes me even happier.
M'Dog
Call Me Crazy
I'm hoping in a couple of years they see the ridiculousness of gerry-mandering the divisions like they have, and by 2016 they KISS with an E-W split and no guaranteed cross-overs
So basically, the door is
So basically, the door is open to superconferences, but we won't be the ones to start it
What do you guys think
About a college football playoff...huh, heh, huh...
ESPN is Hardly a Reliable Source
when asked, Jim Delaney said Big Ten Expansion was "at a pause with the addition of Nebraska." That is markedly different commentary than declaring B10 expansion as "over."
Big Ten expansion is over in
Big Ten expansion is over in the current landscape.
The Big 12 is going to implode, and when it does the music will start again.
Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05
Space bitches, space.
I saw they let the University
I saw they let the University of Chicago back into the BT. This way they can pull ahead of MSU in BT football titles since they are now both tied at 7.
Until the Big 12 collapses
when the money promised doesn't show up for Texas AM.
More teams..
..would allow the MSUs and Wisconsins of the conference to dodge even more top tier teams every year.
I'm happy with this
A 14- or 16-team conference is just too damn unwieldy. You end up playing too many teams too few times.
Let ND stew in their own filthy bathwater. They had their chance. I'd love to see us play them only once every 3-4 years, and substitute the kind of opponents that OSU has been scheduling.
F*($ Notre
F*($ Notre Dame
That's all.
What if Notre DAme asked to become part of the Big Ten, would they let them in?
'Cats comin' for y'all