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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:14 AM
#4202
snarling wolverine
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I'm amazed that that pile

I'm amazed that that pile driver didn't get flagged.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:15 AM
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And theres your make up call

And theres your make up call for missing the first call which was the actual personal foul

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:15 AM
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Nebraska gets the benefit of bad flag

As ever.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 AM
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I would fire Pelini after

I would fire Pelini after this game.  There is something wrong in Nebraska.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:18 AM
(Reply to #624) #4206
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No way, he brought them back

No way, he brought them back from the tire fire they were before he got there. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 AM
(Reply to #630) #4207
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Hmmmmmm...

Team quit on him.



Officials are still with him though.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 AM
(Reply to #630) #4208
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They're about right back

They're about right back where they started now...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
(Reply to #630) #4209
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Well if this isn't a tire

Well if this isn't a tire fire, I don't know what is.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 AM
(Reply to #655) #4210
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They got their ass kicked or

They got their ass kicked or are getting their ass kicked, but they won 10 games, made the conference title game and beat this Wisconsin team earlier in the season. There only losses prior to this are to an undefeated OSU and a Pac 12 runner up UCLA. 

Pelini may not be the long term solution, but he still has done a lot of good things for Nebraska. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:17 AM
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anyone else think Bielema is

anyone else think Bielema is gaining weight.. he looks to have gained a good amount of weight the last few years... especially his face/head.. def looks like a frat boy meat head

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:19 AM
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See for yourself.  After we

See for yourself. 

After we beat him in 2006...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 AM
(Reply to #632) #4213
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In the COMMUNITY

In the COMMUNITY

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:17 AM
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So can the Capital One Bowl still

select Michigan?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:20 AM
(Reply to #627) #4215
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Doubt it. Nebraska is a team that hasn't played there before.

They also have a star player and a fan base that travels extremely well. UM is heading to the Outhouse Bowl.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 AM
(Reply to #634) #4216
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Nebraska played in the Cap

Nebraska played in the Cap One Bowl last year.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 AM
(Reply to #634) #4217
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Nebraska played USC (NTUSC) last year

So there may be a sense of not having a repeat visitor back to back

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:20 AM
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Bowls get to pick pretty much

Bowls get to pick pretty much whon they want.  It's not the 2nd place B1G team, it's the 2nd selection available after the Rose Bowl/other BCS

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:17 AM
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So it looks like we'll play

So it looks like we'll play Georgia in the Capital One Bowl then?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 AM
(Reply to #628) #4220
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Cap One can't take Michigan.

Cap One can't take Michigan. Nebraska has 10 wins to our 8. Their choice is Nebraska or Northwestern.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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Got it. So Outback most

Got it. So Outback most likely?  Who is the likeliest opponent?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 AM
(Reply to #641) #4222
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My guess is Outback vs. UGA,

My guess is Outback vs. UGA, A&M, or LSU. Cap One might try to pair A&M with Nebraska to get the allure of an old Big 12 matchup.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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The Atlanta Journal

The Atlanta Journal Constitution says Texas A&M is likely going to the Capital One.  If I understand this correctly, the Cotton and Outback then would choose between Georgia, LSU, and South Carolina.  The Cotton would have first shot at LSU; the Outback would have the first shot at Georgia or South Carolina.

link -

http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2012/12/01/notebook-nick-saban-beli...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:32 AM
(Reply to #657) #4224
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That's interesting.  Other

That's interesting.  Other rumours indicate that Georgia will be in Capital One.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 AM
(Reply to #628) #4225
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No.  We aren't eligible for

No.  We aren't eligible for the Capital One.  We're going to the Outback or possibly the Gator.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:18 AM
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Shoulder to shoulder block =

Shoulder to shoulder block = penalty
German supplex = no big deal

Oooook

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:19 AM
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FROM Cornnation:  

FROM Cornnation:

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:20 AM
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So your saying there's a chance

No

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 AM
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Pelini's mercurial style makes

his team completely unreliable. NU crushed by UCLA, OSU and WIS with very different schemes. Their D either plays well or awful.

Also indicates how weak our O played at NU. I dont believe our O is ~ 50 points worse than WIS but they are just running all over NU.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 AM
(Reply to #643) #4230
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UCLA only beat NU 36-30. 

UCLA only beat NU 36-30. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:23 AM
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I'm still waiting for the day

I'm still waiting for the day they discover that Taylor Martinez is actually left-handed.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 AM
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Your B1G Championship Game

Your B1G Championship Game attendees..

 

 

What a piss poor showing

Had free tickets and left middle of the second quarter. Glad I only had to drive 22 miles back home in Indy. Some heads need to roll on this crap job.

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Neutral site bleccchhh....

 

http://www.cornnation.com/2012/12/1/3716332/2012-big-ten-championship-second-half-comeback-is-on

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 AM
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Oh no Ball is going to

Oh no Ball is going to overtake Mike Hart 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 AM
(Reply to #648) #4234
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Lost a few, gained a few, got

Lost a few, gained a few, got pulled to applause?  I think he didn't surpass MH.

 

When the stat went up he needed four yards.  First carry to number 3, not Ball.

Next play to Ball for a loss of 2.  Next play Ball for 1 or  2.  Then Ball off to applause.  Hart's numbers hold if FOX's numbers are right (and Bell doesn't come back in tonight).

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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Don't his stats in the bowl

Don't his stats in the bowl game count?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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Wait a minute, Michigan can

Wait a minute, Michigan can fall all the way to the Gator Bowl?

Jacksonville sucks. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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I don't think it's likely.

I don't think it's likely.  We haven't been to the Outback Bowl in a decade, so they're not going to pass us up.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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that would require the people

that would require the people who run the Outback Bowl turning down free money and taking NU

so book your tickets to Tampa happily 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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70 I be like dang!

70

I be like dang!

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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I be like what an

I be like what an embarrassment to the B1G.  Welcome to the Big Ten, Nebraska, now please stop soiling yourself in the championship game, m'kay?

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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Wow what a joke

8-9 in the box, you know Wiscy is going to run it and still no defense.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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Boy, I hope someone has the chance to hang 70 on Wisky.

This is deplorable sportsmanship.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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Nebraska used to do it all

Nebraska used to do it all the time.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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I mean they are just running

I mean they are just running the ball....

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
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What are they supposed to do?

What are they supposed to do? Pass the ball?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 AM
(Reply to #654) #4246
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Not really.  They are running

Not really.  They are running the ball every play.  It is up to Nebraska to stop them.  Running up the score would be calling 4 Verts every time.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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They have their starters in the game.

That is proof enough of poor sportsmanship.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 AM
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Its the championship

Its the championship game. 

Its on Nebraska for losing like this. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 AM
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The game has been decided.

There is no reason why Wisconsin's starters should be in the game,

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM
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No reason why they

No reason why they shouldn't. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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Are you saying

Wiscy should just punt on 1st down?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 AM
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Minnesota head coach Henry L

Minnesota head coach Henry L Williams, back in the day, published a guide to football strategy based on your field position that included this sage advice:

"Inside the 10-yard line: take no chances, punt immediately".

Ron Zook would approve

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 AM
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I believe Bielema put up 80

I believe Bielema put up 80 on Indiana a couple years ago.  He'll run up the score on you if he can.

edit: 83-20 back in '10

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 AM
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Was it deplorable sportsmanship when Michigan did this?

Was it deplorable sportsmanship when Michigan did this?

  • 1977 Wisconsin:  56-0
  • 1977 Northwestern:  63-20
  • 1978 Duke:  52-0
  • 1978 Northwestern:  59-14
  • 1979 Northwestern:  49-7
  • 1979 Wisconsin:  54-0
  • 1980 Illinois:  45-14
  • 1981 Illinois:  70-21
  • 1982 Northwestern:  49-14
  • 1982 Minnesota:  52-14
  • 1982 Purdue:  52-21

One game is highlighted because the point differential is worse than Wisconsin - Nebraska. You may not like Wisconsin, but they are winning with Michigan style Manball.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 AM
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Not the same thing.

Most of those teams would be the modern day equivalent of Eastern Michigan back in the days of te Big Two. And Illinois WAS running up the score because they fired Moeller and hired a cheater.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
#4256
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I'm going to hear that

I'm going to hear that Wisconsin post-TD fight song in my head all night.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:29 AM
#4257
Bammer Blue
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Loop

They should just start looping the Badgers fight song every 3 min.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 AM
#4258
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Wisconsin has 8 rushing

Wisconsin has 8 rushing touchdowns.  EIGHT.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:30 AM
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steve sharik
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Bielema:

"No, I'm the biggest douche in college football, fergodsakes!"

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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Nebraska take heart

Simon Bolivar once said "The art of victory is learned in defeat." If that's true, then by God the future should be bright!

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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Just got done with dinner

and I specifically logged in so that I could declare that I knew Neb was an effing fraud and they are so lucky to have made it to this game what with all the BS calls that went there way and the bad move by our coaching staff not to have had Devin ready to go against these frauds, ugh!!!!

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 AM
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Here have a sticker

Here have a sticker

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 AM
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Okay buddy

you don't have to be a jerk about it, sheesh

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 AM
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You mean like specifically

You mean like specifically logging on to post that Nebraska is an effing fraud.



The jerk store called buddy...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:34 AM
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Punting.  Wow.

Punting.  Wow.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:37 AM
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Why not?  Clearly, they

Why not?  Clearly, they aren't going to win.  No need for further embarassment.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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nice to see nebraska  not

nice to see nebraska  not coming into the big ten and after a couple of seasons they win a big ten title.. not that i really care at all though. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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Sooooooooo

Who wants cake?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 AM
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Capital one bowl, don't be an

Capital one bowl, don't be an asshole.  Northwestern without question.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:37 AM
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After the game, every

After the game, every nebraska commit decommits and goes to Maryland.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:38 AM
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Where does UW find all these

Where does UW find all these backs with breakaway speed?  It seems like we've rarely had a back with an extra gear lately.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 AM
(Reply to #683) #4272
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We have one

He wears #16. But we only let him run the ball from the QB position, when he can't grip the ball, and has no threat of throwing the ball.



-Al Borges

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:39 AM
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Previous Big Ten matchups

Previous Big Ten matchups that got this ugly (or even close)

2008: Wisconsin over Indiana 83-20

2000: Penn State over MSU 61-7

1975: Michigan over Northwestern 69-0

1994: Penn State over Ohio State 63-14

1981: Michigan over Illinois 70-21

1986: Michigan over Illinois 69-13

1988: Michigan over Wisconsin 62-14

1981: Ohio State over Northwestern 70-6

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 AM
(Reply to #685) #4274
Bammer Blue
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Oh the good ol days

Seein a lot of meeechigan in there

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 AM
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the 83-20 game was in

the 83-20 game was in 2010. 

Also Michigan 49 - 3 vs MSU in '02, comes to mind :)

 

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 AM
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Nah

He said "games that got this ugly."  That 2002 MSU game, you see, was a thing of pure beauty.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:39 AM
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Fucking Badgers

have won the 1st 2 B1G CG's, that makes me ill, what a lucky team of circumstances.

when we went to 3 Rose Bowls in a row in 76'-78' seasons, we were 10-1 and ranked #1 for most of those 3 years, SMH

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 AM
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Yep.  And their 93, 98 and 99

Yep.  And their 93, 98 and 99 Rose Bowl teams each missed playing one of the top teams in the conference.  And this year, they get the title simply because 2 teams who finished higher than them in their division were not eligible. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 AM
(Reply to #691) #4279
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The source of Wisky's luck

Every year, Wisconsin fans sacrifice their school's lone virgin on the altar of Bret Bielema's double chin.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 AM
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E. Gordon Gee
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I'm on the hate train

Don't worry, Michigan and/or Ohio State will make sure that doesn't happen next year... 

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:42 AM
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Well done Nebraska.  Unless

Well done Nebraska.  Unless I'm mistaken, this is the most points ever given up by a ranked conference team.  Congratulations!

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:46 AM
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Yep.  I believe they got the

Yep.  I believe they got the record when they hit 70. 

In the 1995 national championship game, Florida gave up 62 to Nebraska.  That's got to be #2.  (I'm hoping Notre Dame loses by a similar score)

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM
(Reply to #696) #4283
TheGhostofYost
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Oh I was talking just within

Oh I was talking just within the Big Ten.  If you're looking nationally, Baylor gave up 70 to West Virgina just this year.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 AM
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You know what bothers me?

next year we'll probably beat ohio at home and then have to beat them again the next fucking week.

Move that game to the 1st week of Nov please, jump on board people, it's not fair to either program to have to beat the other twice in a row like could happen often here in the very near future.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 AM
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Instead of ditching 80 years

Instead of ditching 80 years of tradition of playing it at the end of the season, why not just put the two schools in the same division?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 AM
(Reply to #697) #4286
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So you guys think

we should put the 2 best programs in the same division and what? Put PSU and NEB in the same division?

We also get an improving Sparty program and who else do we get? Huh? I don't trust that effing Delaney one bit.

How do you equalize the strength of each division if you put us and ohio in same division?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM
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snarling wolverine
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So what if the two best

So what if the two best programs are in the same division?  Texas and Oklahoma were in the same division in the Big 12.  So are Bama and LSU right now.  What's wrong with that?  Other conferences don't seem to have any problem going with geography and letting the chips fall where they may.  

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 AM
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That's fine

put us in the same division, how do you divy up the rest of the teams?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 AM
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Geographically, as best as

Geographically, as best as possible 

because that's what's best for rivalries... so we split up Purdue and Indiana and give them an annual protected game 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 PM
(Reply to #713) #4290
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I agree

Looks like the perfect EAST - WEST division separation:

East: UM, MSU, OSU, PSU, Rutger, Maryland, Indiana.

West: NE, WI, IA, Northwestern, IL, Purdue, MN.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM
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Put Nebraska Wisconsin and

Put Nebraska Wisconsin and penn st in the other division? Seems pretty balanced to me. Even if Michigan and dominate for the next decade it's not in the conference's best interest to have the same teams in the championship every year.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 AM
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San Diego Mick
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I could go for that

but PSU is gonna start feeling the effect of their sanctions real soon and will be unable to hold strong for a few years at best. But I don't mind that idea

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 AM
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Nope

Put them in the same division or deal with it.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 AM
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ILwolverine
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No, jump on board to us being

No, jump on board to us being in the same division.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM
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UMxWolverines
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Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Their schedule is ridiculously easy again next year. I'm just hoping the BIG TEEEHNNN will listen to the people completing their survey and re-do the divisions in 2014 so we don't have to deal with that for more than two years.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM
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Nebraska may lose some

Nebraska may lose some basketball games by this score when the Big Ten season starts...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 AM
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AmaizeingBlue
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I'm pretty sure we can still

I'm pretty sure we can still go to the cap one bowl. Nebraska now has 3 losses to our 4, so the 2 win thing doesn't take place. I read this on the big ten blog on espn.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 AM
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I think it's wins, not

I think it's wins, not losses, that matters.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 AM
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nope.

it's wins OR losses.  They have two more wins than us.  Capital One's choice is Nebraska or Northwestern.  And judging by how Ryan Field looks on a weekly basis, I think we all know they are taking Nebraska.  Looks like we will be going to Outback or Gator.  I am thinking Outback, because again, I doubt they take Northwestern over us.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 AM
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AmaizeingBlue
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I'm pretty sure we can still

I'm pretty sure we can still go to the cap one bowl. Nebraska now has 3 losses to our 4, so the 2 win thing doesn't take place. I read this on the big ten blog on espn.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM
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I'm guessing

We won't be seeing any of our Cornhusker friends around for awhile. At least not talking about how adjusting to the Big Ten was pretty easy.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 AM
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CBS has Michigan going to the

CBS has Michigan going to the Gator Bowl to play...............mississippi state.

Please. No. I never want to venture into that dump ass stadium again. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM
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well, that would be nice

well, that would be nice since we could probably win that one

but the outback people aren't idiots so no 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM
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San Diego Mick
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that would be

quite an uninspiring match-up, please no.

and why would they even say that?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM
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UMxWolverines
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Blech

Fuck that noise

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 AM
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Brodie
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would you rather subject our

would you rather subject our o-line to the Cockz d-line? 

these are meaningless games, all on new year's day and all in florida. the placement doesn't even matter, honestly, I'd rather have 9 wins if possible. 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 AM
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Not all bad

I'd like to see Michigan thrash Mississippi State, to help exorcise the 2011 bowl debacle.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 AM
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Perkis-Size Me
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Ditto. We have a defense now.

Ditto. We have a defense now. I think we could beat them pretty badly. A lot of guys on the team will remember that 52-14 thrashing, and I think it would be an extremely physical game.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 11:53 AM
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Loid
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O line differential-Wiscy v Meechigan

OK guys (and gals)..............take off your Maize and Blue blinders for a moment, and imagine you are a top flight offensive line recruit, looking to advance your fame and fortune at the collegiate level, with aspirations toward the pros.  Do you go to Michigan............or Wisconsin?  After watching the game a bit last night and Wisconsin just freaking bulldozing Nebraska, I have got to admit the obvious choice is Wisconsin (throwing tradition, legacy, and the whole Michigan experience to the side for a moment).  I mean really!!!!!!!!  Wisconsin doesn't have a passing attack, so they know you are just going to run it, and they run it at will.  With Authority.  Spectacularly so.  Meanwhile, back in Ann Arbor, we can't get one yard rushing if our life depended on it.  All year long..............ALL     YEAR     LONG...........Despite our declarations about how we want to be physical and run the ball.  The intent is there, the coaching effort is there........................Is it talent?  Coaching?  System?   Weight Program?    Whatever it is, and I suspect coaching, they (Wiscy) have it figured out, and meanwhile, Michigan is lost in the proverbial wilderness, wandering aimlesssly without a clue.  Hopefully, the new class with Kalis and Kugler in particular, can reverse the trend and give us a truly cohesive unit that can in some way replicate the Wisconsin gold standard, because they are indeed, the gold standard, and have been for quite some time.

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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UMgradMSUdad
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You are placing too much

You are placing too much stock in one game where Wisconsin bulldozed Nebraska,  Wisconsin also had some spectacularly crappy run games this season where they had run yardage totals in the 30-60 yard range.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 PM
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Loid
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While certainly not a

While certainly not a Wisconsin expert, I do understand they got rid of a new O line coach early on, and then they came into their own.  Admittedly they also crapped the bed against MSU, but so did a lot of teams offensively.  While a lot of stock is indeed being put on the Nebraska game, 552 yards is HUGE.  Nebraska D, while not a juggernaut, is respectable, and they got their asses handed to them by a one dimensional offense.  Impressive every day of the week.  And again, by comparison, Michigan couldn't get the yard or two they needed all year, and all day long against OSU.  They are what we want to be from a running standpoint.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 PM
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grumbler
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The only problem with your analysis

is reality.  I know that reality has to take second place to opinion in general, but when reality is five 4-star commits to Michigan and zero four-star commits to Wisconsin, the opinion that Wisconsin is the "obvious pick" of "top-fight offensive line recruit[s]" seems... a bit overblown, even for an unsubstantiated opinion.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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uminks
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I don't see how Michigan could ever lose to NE?

If we had any type of running game after Robinson went down, we would have won that game! I don't care who was playing QB!

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