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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 AM | So you guys think (Score:1 Normal)
San Diego Mick
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we should put the 2 best programs in the same division and what? Put PSU and NEB in the same division?

We also get an improving Sparty program and who else do we get? Huh? I don't trust that effing Delaney one bit.

How do you equalize the strength of each division if you put us and ohio in same division?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM | So what if the two best (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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So what if the two best programs are in the same division?  Texas and Oklahoma were in the same division in the Big 12.  So are Bama and LSU right now.  What's wrong with that?  Other conferences don't seem to have any problem going with geography and letting the chips fall where they may.  

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 AM | That's fine (Score:1)
San Diego Mick
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put us in the same division, how do you divy up the rest of the teams?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 AM | Geographically, as best as (Score:1)
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Geographically, as best as possible 

because that's what's best for rivalries... so we split up Purdue and Indiana and give them an annual protected game 

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 PM | I agree (Score:1)
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Looks like the perfect EAST - WEST division separation:

East: UM, MSU, OSU, PSU, Rutger, Maryland, Indiana.

West: NE, WI, IA, Northwestern, IL, Purdue, MN.

expect the best

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM | Put Nebraska Wisconsin and (Score:2)
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Put Nebraska Wisconsin and penn st in the other division? Seems pretty balanced to me. Even if Michigan and dominate for the next decade it's not in the conference's best interest to have the same teams in the championship every year.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 AM | I could go for that (Score:1)
San Diego Mick
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but PSU is gonna start feeling the effect of their sanctions real soon and will be unable to hold strong for a few years at best. But I don't mind that idea

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:47 AM | Nope (Score:2 Normal)
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Put them in the same division or deal with it.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 AM | No, jump on board to us being (Score:4 Normal)
ILwolverine
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No, jump on board to us being in the same division.

This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM | Wouldn't surprise me at all. (Score:2 Normal)
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Wouldn't surprise me at all. Their schedule is ridiculously easy again next year. I'm just hoping the BIG TEEEHNNN will listen to the people completing their survey and re-do the divisions in 2014 so we don't have to deal with that for more than two years.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 AM | Nebraska may lose some (Score:4 Normal)
IPFW_Wolverines
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Nebraska may lose some basketball games by this score when the Big Ten season starts...

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 AM | I'm pretty sure we can still (Score:0 Redundant)
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I'm pretty sure we can still go to the cap one bowl. Nebraska now has 3 losses to our 4, so the 2 win thing doesn't take place. I read this on the big ten blog on espn.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 AM | I think it's wins, not (Score:4 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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I think it's wins, not losses, that matters.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 AM | nope. (Score:1)
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it's wins OR losses.  They have two more wins than us.  Capital One's choice is Nebraska or Northwestern.  And judging by how Ryan Field looks on a weekly basis, I think we all know they are taking Nebraska.  Looks like we will be going to Outback or Gator.  I am thinking Outback, because again, I doubt they take Northwestern over us.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 AM | I'm pretty sure we can still (Score:0 Redundant)
AmaizeingBlue
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I'm pretty sure we can still go to the cap one bowl. Nebraska now has 3 losses to our 4, so the 2 win thing doesn't take place. I read this on the big ten blog on espn.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 AM | I'm guessing (Score:1)
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We won't be seeing any of our Cornhusker friends around for awhile. At least not talking about how adjusting to the Big Ten was pretty easy.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 AM | CBS has Michigan going to the (Score:1)
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CBS has Michigan going to the Gator Bowl to play...............mississippi state.

Please. No. I never want to venture into that dump ass stadium again. 

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM | well, that would be nice (Score:1)
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well, that would be nice since we could probably win that one

but the outback people aren't idiots so no 

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM | that would be (Score:1)
San Diego Mick
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quite an uninspiring match-up, please no.

and why would they even say that?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 AM | Blech (Score:1)
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Fuck that noise

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 AM | would you rather subject our (Score:1)
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would you rather subject our o-line to the Cockz d-line? 

these are meaningless games, all on new year's day and all in florida. the placement doesn't even matter, honestly, I'd rather have 9 wins if possible. 

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 AM | Not all bad (Score:2)
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I'd like to see Michigan thrash Mississippi State, to help exorcise the 2011 bowl debacle.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 AM | Ditto. We have a defense now. (Score:1)
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Ditto. We have a defense now. I think we could beat them pretty badly. A lot of guys on the team will remember that 52-14 thrashing, and I think it would be an extremely physical game.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 2nd, 2012 at 11:53 AM | O line differential-Wiscy v Meechigan (Score:0 Overrated)
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OK guys (and gals)..............take off your Maize and Blue blinders for a moment, and imagine you are a top flight offensive line recruit, looking to advance your fame and fortune at the collegiate level, with aspirations toward the pros.  Do you go to Michigan............or Wisconsin?  After watching the game a bit last night and Wisconsin just freaking bulldozing Nebraska, I have got to admit the obvious choice is Wisconsin (throwing tradition, legacy, and the whole Michigan experience to the side for a moment).  I mean really!!!!!!!!  Wisconsin doesn't have a passing attack, so they know you are just going to run it, and they run it at will.  With Authority.  Spectacularly so.  Meanwhile, back in Ann Arbor, we can't get one yard rushing if our life depended on it.  All year long..............ALL     YEAR     LONG...........Despite our declarations about how we want to be physical and run the ball.  The intent is there, the coaching effort is there........................Is it talent?  Coaching?  System?   Weight Program?    Whatever it is, and I suspect coaching, they (Wiscy) have it figured out, and meanwhile, Michigan is lost in the proverbial wilderness, wandering aimlesssly without a clue.  Hopefully, the new class with Kalis and Kugler in particular, can reverse the trend and give us a truly cohesive unit that can in some way replicate the Wisconsin gold standard, because they are indeed, the gold standard, and have been for quite some time.

 

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 PM | You are placing too much (Score:3 Normal)
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You are placing too much stock in one game where Wisconsin bulldozed Nebraska,  Wisconsin also had some spectacularly crappy run games this season where they had run yardage totals in the 30-60 yard range.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 PM | While certainly not a (Score:0 Overrated)
Loid
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While certainly not a Wisconsin expert, I do understand they got rid of a new O line coach early on, and then they came into their own.  Admittedly they also crapped the bed against MSU, but so did a lot of teams offensively.  While a lot of stock is indeed being put on the Nebraska game, 552 yards is HUGE.  Nebraska D, while not a juggernaut, is respectable, and they got their asses handed to them by a one dimensional offense.  Impressive every day of the week.  And again, by comparison, Michigan couldn't get the yard or two they needed all year, and all day long against OSU.  They are what we want to be from a running standpoint.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 PM | The only problem with your analysis (Score:2)
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is reality.  I know that reality has to take second place to opinion in general, but when reality is five 4-star commits to Michigan and zero four-star commits to Wisconsin, the opinion that Wisconsin is the "obvious pick" of "top-fight offensive line recruit[s]" seems... a bit overblown, even for an unsubstantiated opinion.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 PM | I don't see how Michigan could ever lose to NE? (Score:1)
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If we had any type of running game after Robinson went down, we would have won that game! I don't care who was playing QB!

expect the best

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