hate the lack of independent thinking.
Niko Porikos grew up in an NTDP billet home. Cool story.
hate the lack of independent thinking.
Spartan stadium is a dumpster. I was there for the OT game this past season. After the game, a friend of mine who is an MSU alum, asked me what I thought of the renovations...I thought he was joking, but apparently it was worse before last season. I can't understand how.
It's not the worst stadium in the world, but it's nothing special. I actually felt the same way about Notre Dame's stadium - although I have to admit seeing touchdown Jesus was kind of cool.
No stadium I've been to can compare to the sheer awe inspiring hugeness of the Big House the first time I walked in. I can't wait to see it with the renovations in person.
the problem is their asses are too fat.
I was in EL for the game last season. with a couple of my roommates. It was my first time seeing Spartan Stadium in person. After a few (quite a few) adult beverages, my buddies and I walked around the stadium asking spartan fans what local high school stadium we were outside of and where we could find State's field. Some thought it was pretty funny, most looked pissed but really didn't have much to say.
Sparty fills me with Mel Gibson-esque rage!!!!!
"I will put you in the fucking rose garden" MG
Not a big fan of the stadium, but the non-student fans were surprisingly decent people when I went last year.
Michigan Stadium: Spartan Stadium ::
The two most memorable:
1. 1997. Sitting on the 50 yard line directly behind the Spartan recruiting group, behind the Spartan bench. Woodson makes his incredible catch, Michigan rolls, and a drunk MSU student comes down 19 rows, throws his beer on me and my wife at half time. The fans, all doctors, etc laugh and applaud. If I was being an ass... but I was not. Ahhh... good times, good times.
2. 2001. Sitting on 20 yard line in the second tier as the seconds tick off... or NOT! MSU Stadium erupts as hundreds of accessories to the crime cheer cheating to victory. On my way out of the stadium, my car has been keyed and shit on the hood. In a public parking area.
The rest were Michigan victories and less confrontational, although there is always some good natured (?) bantering going on.
Regarding the MSU blog's assertion that our seats are small. The only reason that theirs are not is that they can barely fill their stadium now - what would they do with a few thousand additional empty seats?
Aside: My son and I are with some of his friends were in Lansing at Elderly's Instruments. All of them are Michigan Students. I take them for a tour of MSU since none had been on their campus. As we pass the stadium, my son says, "That's it? It's cute!" without even thinking about what he's saying. The guys explode with laughter. He has never lived it down.
seriously, have the ever looked at their own concourses? the big house is beautiful. the brick on the outside looks awesome, it flows well on the inside. any spartan who says it is a dump is just complaing because its the big house and thats what theyre trained to do
I went to Spartan Stadium when I was younger (saw Epstein kick a 55 yarder into the wind). I thought it was such a crappy hunk of concrete. Also, I LOLed at a hot chocolate/coffee being spilt from the upper deck onto an unsuspecting spartan fan below. Serves 'em right for boasting about such a craptastic stadium. I also went to the Cold War. The place just feels like some, I dunno, MSU engineer put it together.
+1 to hating MSU fans more. A bit of background here:
I've spent my entire sport fandom cheering for our five teams (Wolverines, Lions, Wings, Pistons, Tigers). Due to some slacking off on my part during my first two years of high school, I didn't get into Michigan and settled for MSU. At the time, I was a UM fan and I "nothinged" MSU. I didn't realize just how obnoxious the majority of MSU fans are.
Everyone's seen the bumper stickers "My two favorite teams are XXX and whoever plays YYY". My biggest beef with most Spartans is that they reverse that order. When I go to East Lansing sports bars, the cheering is always much, much more raucous when Michigan is doing poorly than when MSU is doing well. I've been to a few MSU games against random opponents (OSU, ND, Northwestern) and see almost as many anti-Michigan shirts and pro-MSU shirts. The lead sports writer for the State News wrote that his favorite MSU sports memory during his time at State wasn't the national championship in hockey or deep tournament runs in basketball, but Michigan losing to App State. Two years ago on the final regular season football game if Michigan beat OSU and MSU beat Penn State, MSU would have gone to their first Rose Bowl in around 20 years. When Dantonio was interviewed and asked if he would cheer for Michigan because of it, rather than even giving the standard, "I'm just going to worry about our team and our opponent" he stated that he would definitely be pulling for the Buckeyes. There it is. The head coach actively cheering against his team's best interests because he would rather see Michigan lose.
Almost without fail if I'm wearing my Michigan gear in East Lansing some random guy on the street will bring up App State or Chris Webber. Those are MSU's two crowning achievements, Michigan getting disgraced. That's why I've gone from "nothinging" MSU to hating them worse than OSU. I've rooted for them a time or two (a few years ago we needed them to beat Wisconsin so we could go to the Rose Bowl), but I will never have the slightest shred of respect for them.
This. I try not to root against MSU because I don't want to stoop to their level, but I am always happy when they lose. .
It looks like they were trying to save money for another project when they built it.
From what I've read, they're trying desperately to save money all over the board
Reading the RCMB is hilarious. They're not even being intentionally stupid, it's just by accident.
Ask this guy-
The only time Spartan Stadium is anything like Michigan Stadium in coolness-
in 2007. Not the best place to watch a game. But IIRC, Mike Hart had a nice little game.
The view from those seats is better than the all the way at the top of the Big House. Thankfully, I've only had to sit in the back row once: OSU 2003. At least the game was worth it...
Sorta like Brock Lesnar vs Jose Canseco in the octagon.
I was thinking Mike Tyson vs Glass Joe.
Cassius Clay vs a dead fish
Comparing Michigan Stadium to Spartan Stadium is like comparing Wrigley Field or Fenway (or Tiger Stadium, RIP) to one of those 1970s cookie-cutters. Spartan Stadium is just your standard-issue gray concrete bowl. There's nothing distinctive about it. It has no soul.
FTR, My buddy's dad who played at UM in the 50's & First bought season tickets in the mid 60's didn't renew this year. I would venture to guess he ain't the only person from the "old guard" who isn't re-upping.
All of the WT fans will finally be getting their chance at season tickets soon.
do they not realize that a guy who is around 75-80 might be getting old?
Heres how the hate breaks down:
1) I dislike MSU students more than OSU students because for one, I know a lot more state students. Also, they have such an inferiority complex that they feel like they HAVE to lash out every time they beat us in anything. OSU students, for the most part, know we are a respectable institution and program.
For example, everytime I get into an argument about whose football program is better, one of my state buddies pulls this argument: "Who has more national championships since 1965"..... I know, by far, the DUMBEST argument I have ever heard.
2) I dislike OSU non-student fans more than MSU non-student fans. Mainly because most of them are pretty classless, and will try to do anything to make you feel like crap. Just watch what some of those rednecks do to cars with Michigan decals on them.
MSU has non-student fans?
is indeed a craphole- nothing even close to resembling the BIG HOUSE. The only good memory I can pull from Spartan Stadium is this past September when my Central Michigan Chippewas took out the Spartans 29-27 on a last second field goal to win the game. What a great game that was to see the Chippewas (now my alma mater) storm the field at the end of the game was a moment I will never forget.
FIRE UP CHIPS AND GO BLUE!!!!
of the 2 in a row that the Chips took from MSU. Raucous laughter all around when the final was announced.
Michigan bleachers seats are tighter than normal and are made of cheap metal. I don't think that's in doubt. I'd agree the bowl's kind of a shithole, but the rest is nice now. Let's not fool ourselves that row after row of hard metal bleachers with tight seats is really that great for anything other than the attendance record.
Bad form, you should know better.
What exactly is the comparison that we are making here?
There are definitely annoying Spartan fans, but I have Spartan family, so my hate for Columbus is much worse.
Been there three times. Everytime it was during a torrential rain storm. Enough said, Even god hates Sparty.
is always good. The stadium itself is fine, the tailgating is good and the great atmosphere for the M-MSU game can mask alot. Objectively the stadium itself is rather meh, and cant imagine it is a great experience when MSU is playing Minnesota or Purdue.
How can anyone dislike MSU more than Ohio State?
That'd be like the U.S. hating Mexico more than the Soviet Union during the Cold War.