Big House vs. Spartan Stadium

Submitted by UMxWolverines on
I figured RCMB would have something about our renovation tour today, and I was right. "What a dump that big hole is hahaha". Anyway, they like to think that our stadium is a dump (even though the only thing they can think of to back up this claim is that our seats aren't wide enough). Lets here some stories about Spartan Stadium and how it's always "a beautiful day for football". Feel free to post pictures and such also. http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/msu-red-cedar-message-board/45350…

Mr. Robot

July 14th, 2010 at 3:58 PM ^

Went to the game these last year and wasn't really impressed. It looks a lot better on the outside thanks to those skyboxes than it does on the inside. The inside iseven poopier looking that Crisler, and I still can't get over the fact that have like a 45 degree slope going to the upper deck. It rained last year, so it was also wet, and there wasn't any way I was getting down that thing without holding the handrail with both hands. Also, it feels very small. 75,000 or whatever it is isn't too bad, but none of is individual parts are large by themselves (Really tiny endzone stands, medium upper decks), so it just feels small. Maybe that's because I'm used to a single bowl that held at minimum 106,000 and now has huge structures on both sides that both cover more of the sides than Sparty's decks or boxes.

Either way, only Spartan fans are going to tell you their stadium is better than ours, and from what time I've spent out of curiosity at RCMB, it appears to be full of the absolute bottom tier of their fandom. The tailgating at MSU was actually appeard pretty good, and the fans were actually very civil. I only got unreasonably douchey interaction with a small group of frat boys after the game was done. I expected far, FAR worse, especially after losing the game, so props to MSU being better than their average public fan.

wigeon

July 14th, 2010 at 4:02 PM ^

Was tailgating at the invite of some Sparty friends, for a game against Eastern maybe 10 years ago. One of those deals where the wife said "yes", I said "NO!" and lost because she probably held sex or fishing hostage, or I was deep in the doghouse. Weak, weak moment on my part. 

Our friends took an RV over- thankfully we met them there. There were a dozen tailgates near us playing Jimmy Buffett, and people shotgunning/beer bonging Natty and Old Milwaukee. Ugly dogs with bandanas running around,  50-60 year old men and their wives wearing parrot shirts and other stupid Buffett shit.  Everyone has to have fun some how, it just seems preferable to find your own fun rather than mimicking others in a mindless orgy of predictability.

The whole day sucked. The hardest part was staying nice and polite and cordial to this group of people without screaming "Go Blue" .

Eric

July 14th, 2010 at 4:09 PM ^

Spartan stadium is a dumpster. I was there for the OT game this past season. After the game, a friend of mine who is an MSU alum, asked me what I thought of the renovations...I thought he was joking, but apparently it was worse before last season. I can't understand how.

Foote Fetish

July 14th, 2010 at 4:12 PM ^

It's not the worst stadium in the world, but it's nothing special.  I actually felt the same way about Notre Dame's stadium - although I have to admit seeing touchdown Jesus was kind of cool.

No stadium I've been to can compare to the sheer awe inspiring hugeness of the Big House the first time I walked in.  I can't wait to see it with the renovations in person.

CWoodIsMyBoiii

July 14th, 2010 at 4:15 PM ^

I was in EL for the game last season. with a couple of my roommates.  It was my first time seeing Spartan Stadium in person.  After a few (quite a few) adult beverages, my buddies and I walked around the stadium asking spartan fans what local high school stadium we were outside of and where we could find State's field.  Some thought it was pretty funny, most looked pissed but really didn't have much to say.

Search4Meaning

July 14th, 2010 at 4:48 PM ^

The two most memorable:

1.  1997.  Sitting on the 50 yard line directly behind the Spartan recruiting group, behind the Spartan bench.  Woodson makes his incredible catch, Michigan rolls, and a drunk MSU student comes down 19 rows, throws his beer on me and my wife at half time.  The fans, all doctors, etc laugh and applaud.  If I was being an ass... but I was not.  Ahhh... good times, good times. 

2.  2001.  Sitting on 20 yard line in the second tier as the seconds tick off... or NOT!  MSU Stadium erupts as hundreds of accessories to the crime cheer cheating to victory.  On my way out of the stadium, my car has been keyed and shit on the hood.  In a public parking area.

The rest were Michigan victories and less confrontational, although there is always some good natured (?) bantering going on.

Regarding the MSU blog's assertion that our seats are small.  The only reason that theirs are not is that they can barely fill their stadium now - what would they do with a few thousand additional empty seats?

Aside:  My son and I are with some of his friends were in Lansing at Elderly's Instruments.  All of them are Michigan Students.  I take them for a tour of MSU since none had been on their campus.  As we pass the stadium, my son says, "That's it?  It's cute!"  without even thinking about what he's saying.  The guys explode with laughter.  He has never lived it down.

Go Blue.

lhglrkwg

July 14th, 2010 at 5:03 PM ^

seriously, have the ever looked at their own concourses? the big house is beautiful. the brick on the outside looks awesome, it flows well on the inside. any spartan who says it is a dump is just complaing because its the big house and thats what theyre trained to do

Red_Lee

July 14th, 2010 at 5:23 PM ^

I went to Spartan Stadium when I was younger (saw Epstein kick a 55 yarder into the wind). I thought it was such a crappy hunk of concrete. Also, I LOLed at a hot chocolate/coffee being spilt from the upper deck onto an unsuspecting spartan fan below. Serves 'em right for boasting about such a craptastic stadium. I also went to the Cold War. The place just feels like some, I dunno, MSU engineer put it together. 

magonus

July 14th, 2010 at 5:28 PM ^

+1 to hating MSU fans more.  A bit of background here:

I've spent my entire sport fandom cheering for our five teams (Wolverines, Lions, Wings, Pistons, Tigers). Due to some slacking off on my part during my first two years of high school, I didn't get into Michigan and settled for MSU. At the time, I was a UM fan and I "nothinged" MSU. I didn't realize just how obnoxious the majority of MSU fans are. 

Everyone's seen the bumper stickers "My two favorite teams are XXX and whoever plays YYY". My biggest beef with most Spartans is that they reverse that order. When I go to East Lansing sports bars, the cheering is always much, much more raucous when Michigan is doing poorly than when MSU is doing well. I've been to a few MSU games against random opponents (OSU, ND, Northwestern) and see almost as many anti-Michigan shirts and pro-MSU shirts. The lead sports writer for the State News wrote that his favorite MSU sports memory during his time at State wasn't the national championship in hockey or deep tournament runs in basketball, but Michigan losing to App State. Two years ago on the final regular season football game if Michigan beat OSU and MSU beat Penn State, MSU would have gone to their first Rose Bowl in around 20 years. When Dantonio was interviewed and asked if he would cheer for Michigan because of it, rather than even giving the standard, "I'm just going to worry about our team and our opponent" he stated that he would definitely be pulling for the Buckeyes. There it is. The head coach actively cheering against his team's best interests because he would rather see Michigan lose. 

Almost without fail if I'm wearing my Michigan gear in East Lansing some random guy on the street will bring up App State or Chris Webber. Those are MSU's two crowning achievements, Michigan getting disgraced. That's why I've gone from "nothinging" MSU to hating them worse than OSU. I've rooted for them a time or two (a few years ago we needed them to beat Wisconsin so we could go to the Rose Bowl), but I will never have the slightest shred of respect for them.

M-Wolverine

July 14th, 2010 at 5:41 PM ^

Ask this guy- The only time Spartan Stadium is anything like Michigan Stadium in coolness-

jmblue

July 14th, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^

Comparing Michigan Stadium to Spartan Stadium is like comparing Wrigley Field or Fenway (or Tiger Stadium, RIP) to one of those 1970s cookie-cutters. Spartan Stadium is just your standard-issue gray concrete bowl. There's nothing distinctive about it. It has no soul.

dmblue

July 14th, 2010 at 8:26 PM ^

FTR, My buddy's dad who played at UM in the 50's & First bought season tickets in the mid 60's didn't renew this year. I would venture to guess he ain't the only person from the "old guard" who isn't re-upping.

All of the WT fans will finally be getting their chance at season tickets soon.

 

do they not realize that a guy who is around 75-80 might be getting old?

goblueUM2012

July 14th, 2010 at 8:36 PM ^

Heres how the hate breaks down:

1)    I dislike MSU students more than OSU students because for one, I know a lot more state students. Also, they have such an inferiority complex that they feel like they HAVE to lash out every time they beat us in anything. OSU students, for the most part, know we are a respectable institution and program.

For example, everytime I get into an argument about whose football program is better, one of my state buddies pulls this argument: "Who has more national championships since 1965"..... I know, by far, the DUMBEST argument I have ever heard.

2)   I dislike OSU non-student fans more than MSU non-student fans. Mainly because most of them are pretty classless, and will try to do anything to make you feel like crap. Just watch what some of those rednecks do to cars with Michigan decals on them.

m_go_blue

July 14th, 2010 at 10:01 PM ^

is indeed a craphole- nothing even close to resembling the BIG HOUSE. The only good memory I can pull from Spartan Stadium is this past September when my Central Michigan Chippewas took out the Spartans 29-27 on a last second field goal to win the game. What a great game that was to see the Chippewas (now my alma mater) storm the field at the end of the game was a moment I will never forget.

FIRE UP CHIPS AND GO BLUE!!!!

ShockFX

July 14th, 2010 at 10:32 PM ^

Michigan bleachers seats are tighter than normal and are made of cheap metal. I don't think that's in doubt. I'd agree the bowl's kind of a shithole, but the rest is nice now. Let's not fool ourselves that row after row of hard metal bleachers with tight seats is really that great for anything other than the attendance record.

J. Lichty

July 15th, 2010 at 12:43 PM ^

is always good.  The stadium itself is fine, the tailgating is good and the great atmosphere for the M-MSU game can mask alot.  Objectively the stadium itself is rather meh, and cant imagine it is a great experience when MSU is playing Minnesota or Purdue.

M2NASA

July 15th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^

How can anyone dislike MSU more than Ohio State?

That'd be like the U.S. hating Mexico more than the Soviet Union during the Cold War.