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Bielema Bountygate?
Why is it that Bountygate is such a big deal in the NFL and Sean Payton is suspended a year for having knowledge of dirty play, yet nothing came of Bielema all but bragging that he told his players to try to injure Mike Martin?
 
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http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1155909
 
After the game Saturday, Bielema said his offensive line -- which grinds opposing defenses into dust by pulling its guards and ramming them into linebackers downfield -- was prevented from pulling by Michigan. He used the word "tactics," which is coaching code for "holding," to describe what Michigan's defensive line was doing.

"But we rectified the situation," Bielema said.

When asked how, Bielema recalled a chop-block penalty that went against his team -- and took a touchdown off the scoreboard -- in the second quarter. Wisconsin lost seven points but delivered a message.

 
 
I remember this when it happened and I have despised that Gomer Pyle looking mf'er Bielema ever since.
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April 13th, 2012 at 9:30 AM | I didn't like it, either, but (Score:3 Normal)
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I didn't like it, either, but it could have just been Bielema talking out of his ass.  What the Saints did was organized and over a long period of time.  Bielema isn't the first coach to do something like this *coughDantoniocough* and he won't be the last.

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:31 AM | You only started hating him (Score:5 Normal)
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You only started hating him in 2010?  I hated him in 06 when he didn't punish the Badger who tried to rip Steve Breaston's leg off. 

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:34 AM | Nice title, I thought I was (Score:5 Normal)
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Nice title, I thought I was gonna open something about bounties (that wasn't 2 years old)

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:36 AM | Just my opinion (Score:1 Offtopic)
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There are a few differences between a meathead FB coach telling his team to injure someone on the sidelines, or failing to discipline a player who deliberately does so (MSU) than an organization wide Pay-for-Injuries program that the NFL was investigating and told them to stop twice.

You're debating degrees of wrong, but if Bielema threw $10K around to his players for injuring people, I'm guessing this would have been a bigger issue.

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:21 AM | Although I bet that to the (Score:2 Normal)
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Although I bet that to the NCAA the more egregious sin would have been the violation of amateur status, not the paid-to-harm-people bit. 

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM | Agreed (Score:1 Trolling)
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But I think it's the same with the NFL. Rhetoric is one thing. Cash added to it is another.

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:44 AM | darn (Score:1 Offtopic)
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I thought Urban was going to be his target.

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:52 AM | No, they have a gentlemans (Score:4 Normal)
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No, they have a gentlemans agreement inside their circle of trust.

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:47 AM | meh. (Score:2 Offtopic)
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I don't see where the bounty occurred here.

 

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:07 AM | - (Score:0 Offtopic)
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More of Bielema being an ass and nothing like a bounty. A bounty would bring about the wrath of the NCAA. So probably just a strongly worded cease and desist letter. 

"I tried to but a pencil in the light socket but it was too wide and didn't fit so I used a paperclip."-Terrelle Pryor, Future Rhodes Scholar

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:08 AM | I Guess There Is No Gentleman's Agreement... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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...among B1G coaches regarding deliberately injuring another guys players.

Adams Axiom: The major difference between something that might go wrong and something that can not possibly go wrong is that when a thing that can not possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:48 AM | What Bielema said was little different from Narduzzi. (Score:0 Normal)
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"Sixty minutes of unnecessary roughness."  And, Mike Martin was illegally chop-blocked so as to cause injury by Narduzzi's defense in 2010.

So yeah, I don't mind the comparison; it is a healthy smear of some guys (Bielema, Dantonio, Narduzzi) whose filthy players deserve it.  We just don't see the Badgers much anymore.  I suppose that we can presume that they weren't handing out thousand dollar bonuses to the offensive linemen who cut Mike Martin, but you never really know, do you? 

 

 

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April 13th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | Not exactly (Score:3 Normal)
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Explain to me how Mike Martin, a nose tackle, was lined up opposite Narduzzi's defense.

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April 13th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | My bad. That came off very badly. (Score:1 Normal)
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Narduzzi's Spartans.  I appreciate the correction.

 

 

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April 13th, 2012 at 5:51 PM | I distinctly recall being at (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I distinctly recall being at the UM/MSU game in 2010 and hearing one chop block penalty against UM's offensive line.  Where does Martin come into play or was there another? And what does DC Narduzzi have to do with it? 

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April 13th, 2012 at 12:46 PM | What makes what the NFL (Score:2 Normal)
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What makes what the NFL situation different is all of the lawsuits by former players. The NFL cares about this now only because it is affecting thier pockets.

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April 13th, 2012 at 12:52 PM | How would the nfl be different? (Score:0 Offtopic)
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Say mike martin was injured and Beilema still said that, wouldn't that open up the same lawsuits by college players?  If a coach makes a statement they sent a message on an illegal play in the game and said player gets injured or career ended by injury that door is wide open! 

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April 13th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Coaches also must know.... (Score:1)
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If you have your olineman chop block my dt, the next play you pull your olineman my dt can chop block him, it works the same way....................so message sent can be sent right back to the other staff!

 

Actually if a staff does that I hope our staff sends the same message right back!  That's just bogus.  Actually I hoped our dline would have done that to msu when they opened the game with the high/low chop blocks that weren't called. 

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April 13th, 2012 at 2:37 PM | Unfit to coach (Score:2)
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Seems like another opportunity to remind people about Breaston from the "Bielema is morally unfit to coach college football" writeup.  Old news, but as long as Bielema is coaching, I don't want to forget it.

This is not an isolated incident. In 2006, Bielema's squard came to Michigan and lost its only game of the year. During one play, Badger defensive back James Kamoku found Steve Breaston lying on the ground after a punt return. Komuku, thinking he was at the bottom of the pile and could act without consequence, viciously wrenched the prone Breaston's knee after the play. It was an act that had nothing to do with football and had no purpose other than to injury an opponent, perhaps very seriously.

When Ohio State linebacker Robert Reynolds attempted to injure a helpless player in 2003, Jim Tressel suspended him for a game and said the assault was "totally unacceptable and has no place in intercollegiate athletics." You can argue he was too lenient, but he did at least take some action.

Bielema, when informed of Kamoku's play, took no action whatsoever. Either he decided to send the message that such behavior should go unpunished, or he actually teaches it.

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:48 PM | BB teaches it. If you want to (Score:0)
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BB teaches it. If you want to build your level of hate for BB, please youtube his postgame interview (on the field) after Wiscy beat U-M in 2010' (might have been 2009?)... His contempt for U-M is clear; He WANTS his contempt to be seen by the national TV audience. If you could define 'Hate for Michigan', you would have to include BB's face in your description. He IS the type of Caveman who would not discourage his minions from intentionally injuring a rival. Just ask Steve Breaston.

 

 

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April 13th, 2012 at 4:03 PM | Hopefully we find out that (Score:1)
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I bet we'll find out that Dantonio and Narduzzi have had a long history of bounties.

903 wins most in college football

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April 13th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | This article is why it is a strange time in the big ten (Score:1)
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BC our three biggest rivals in the big ten right now (ranked by my joy of defeating) all have head coaches I have little to no respect for. I know we all dislike great players or coaches on rival teams (as a Bears fan, I objectively know Aaron Rodgers is a great QB but I can't stand him), but we should at least be able to respect them. Dantonio, Bielema,, and Meyer are such blatant bottom feeders that losing to them honestly feels like a moral affront. Not that Michigan knows what it's like to lose to Meyer, but you know what I mean.

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April 13th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | Fitzgerald & Hoke are the (Score:0)
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Fitzgerald & Hoke are the tops in the Big Ten. They R Class coaches. Just recall how Hoke responded when Caveman tried to break DR's neck at the bottom of the pile.... Dantonio, & BB are the absolute dregs of the Big Ten, WAY worse than Meyer.... 1) Hoke & Fitz are tied. 3) Frank Beamer; I love that guy. 4) George Perles. Say what you will, but that guy was classy.... 9) Dick-Nose cornhusker. 10) Meyer. 11) Dantonio. 12) BB......427) Bobby Williams.

 

 

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