Betting Lines Released for Additional Games

Submitted by sundaybluedysunday on

Betting lines for a lot of college football games were released today by the Golden Nugget. I don't bet personally, but of course these sorts of things are very informative for how the people that set such things perceive a team's strength to be.

The Michigan lines that are out so far:

Notre Dame at Michigan (Pick 'Em)
Michigan (-12) at Connecticut
Minnesota at Michigan (-15)
Michigan (-2.5) at Penn State
Michigan at Michigan State (-3)
Nebraska at Michigan (-4)
Michigan at Northwestern (-3)
Michigan at Iowa (+10.5)
Ohio at Michigan (+6)

The only Big Ten line that they haven't released for Michigan is vs. Indiana, but that's obviously going to favor Michigan. This would place Michigan 5-3 in the Big Ten this year, and while many publications are projecting a Michigan vs. Ohio Big Ten Championship game, I have a hard time believing that one of the other Legends teams wouldn't go 6-2.

Degenerate gambler Adam Kramer has a full rundown of the lines released on his blog Kegs'n'Eggs: http://kegsneggsblog.com/2013/06/07/golden-nugget-releases-250-college-football-point-spreads-for-2013-regular-season/

What does everyone think? Obviously some of these lines are going to move quite a bit, but I always find them interesting.
 

 

sundaybluedysunday

June 7th, 2013 at 10:56 AM ^

Agreed on the MSU game, but if that Northwestern game doesn't terrify you then you're a bolder man (or woman) than I. They had us dead to rights last year, Kain Colter does a really good job running that offense, and Venric Mark was a big threat as a freshman and you can only assume he's going to get better. Win or lose, that game is going to be very, very frustrating to watch.

M_Jason_M

June 7th, 2013 at 11:05 AM ^

To me, it just seemed like Michigan was the better team throughout the game, but Northwestern was just finding ways to hang in there. It seemed like the defense could stop them but just weren't executing. I don't know, it could just be homerism, but Northwestern didn't seem as good to me as the final score would indicate.

FreddieMercuryHayes

June 7th, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^

First, Mattison needs to come up with a better D against the option attack. I know it's tough, and we have some success, but it's just not consistent enough. And second, it was just one if those games where they have everything working on offense. It started with that first drive when we got them in like 3rd and 15, and they heave a pass, and the receiver makes a diving one handed catch for the 1st. From there, they hurt on on QB scrambles, and their back up QB making NFL throws he's never made in other games. Plus a really shitty roughing the passer call to extend another drive...just and odd day.

karpodiem

June 7th, 2013 at 9:37 PM ^

Let's look at Northwestern's (relevant) B1G schedule before they play Michigan

Oct. 5th vs. Ohio 

Oct. 12th @ Wisconsin 

Nov. 2nd @ Nebraska

Sorry folks, I don't see Northwestern winning any of these games. Maybe the Wisconsin game. They're going to be deflated when they play us, with nothing to play for. 

Michigan wins, big. Raback it.

sundaybluedysunday

June 7th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

From what I could find, some of the early lines last year were

Michigan vs Alabama (-12)
Michigan at Notre Dame (-1)
Michigan State at Michigan (-6)
Michigan at Nebraska (+2)
Michigan at Ohio State (+2)

Those were released on June 11th last year, and you would have won betting against Michigan for every one of those games. I'm guessing the year before it would have been the exact opposite.

1464

June 7th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

I have a hard time not placing us in the title game.  MSU is going to suck.  Nebraska has an 8th year senior girls volleyball player at QB (at least judging by how TMart throws).  Northwestern is our only competition, but we play them at home.  We will have 2 regular season losses, and both will be close games.  Raback the shit outta that.

Logan88

June 7th, 2013 at 11:04 AM ^

Did you ever watch Martinez throw last year? His mechanics, while still far from flawless, have improved pretty dramatically and he no longer looks like an 8-year old girl when throwing the ball.

I was a little surprised to see that UM was listed as an underdog to MSU only because of perception that UM is a better team than MSU. I believe that game will be very difficult for UM but I expected them to be a slight favorite in the early summer lines. Ditto for Northwestern.

I'm also a little surprised that OSU is a 6 point favorite against UM in Ann Arbor. If I were (still) a betting man, I would take that action. Even if OSU wins the game, I expect they would win by a very small margin of 3-4 points. Personally, at this point in time, I think UM is going to win that game...also by a pretty small margin.

M_Jason_M

June 7th, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^

But what is everyone's (not here, media and betting wise) thought process with MSU and NW? I'll give MSU a good defense, but I doubt it will be 2011 good and their offense should be totally awful. NW is the one that I'm just not on the bandwagon for. Are they really going to be much better than before? Maybe it's just my forever-pretty-good-but-not-great expectations for them, but I doubt it. Plus, games at NW are practically home games for Michigan (side note: is NW like that for anyone else? Are there any other places like that for any other team?). Sure Michgan might lose one of those, but I wouldn't set the line for that on either one.

snowcrash

June 7th, 2013 at 12:26 PM ^

Here's what it looks like to me:

MSU - took M to the wire on the road last year, their defense was very good last year and returns largely intact so it should be very good again (I agree), their offense has nowhere to go but up (I disagree, Bell was their only difference maker), they were better than their record last year (not really)

NW - took M to OT on the road last year and probably should have won, had a good team last year and return mostly intact (true, but I think M has a big talent advantage and should win if we play the way we're capable of)

Ali G Bomaye

June 7th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

People have mentioned the MSU and Northwestern lines as questionable, and I agree somewhat.

But my biggest surprise is that we're only favored by 2.5 points at Penn State.  Penn State was OK last year, but wasn't in the top echelon of the B1G despite their 8-4 record.  They lost a good senior QB in McGloin and are replacing him with either a true freshman or a walk-on.  And as the sanctions start to hit, their depth is pretty thin.

The game is on the road, but I would think that we should be favorites by a TD or so.

Logan88

June 7th, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^

Two factors in PSU's favor for that game: late start (5 pm) so the 2nd half will be "night game"-like conditions and it is homecoming for PSU.

I tend to think that UM's recent lack of success away from Ann Arbor might be playing into these less favorable lines in the road games.

colin

June 7th, 2013 at 11:07 AM ^

6 point dogs at home to OSU? ugh. that's gotta put them pretty much in the running for the NC game. gross. that RR attrition is such a big deal and it's really annoying.  that costs us more than anything Tat Gate cost them.

Tate

June 7th, 2013 at 11:40 AM ^

I'm kind of a noob to betting, can someone explain the difference between the decision of using a + or -? Like why not always use one or the other.

Logan88

June 7th, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^

I'm not exactly sure why the OP chose to do it the way he did. If you look at the site the OP linked, all of the lines are expressed as the favorite regardless of whether that is the home team or the visitor. I think this is the most common practice although I believe I have seen some sites that always list the line based on the home team: negative if they are the favorite and positive if they are the underdog.

TWSWBC

June 7th, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^

I'll be curious to see which games Vegas thinks will be high or low scoring when
the over/under for these are released. I'd guess they'll the O/U pretty low for the ND and MSU games.

dahblue

June 7th, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^

I think much of the Vegas pessimism comes from our poor road performance recently.  If I were a betting man (I'm too cheap to be such a fellow), I'd say the Nebraska game offers the best bet.  We obliterated them two years ago and only lost last season because of the Bellomy implosion/Devin at WR experiment.  We should be back in form against Neb this year and teach them a lesson.

As for the MSU line...if we don't develop a running game, it could be a tough game.  Then again, MSU lost their RB, WR and TE.  So, um, could be ugly (not "ugly" as in big win; just ugly).

In general, we've got to be one of the hardest teams in the nation when it comes to setting lines this year.  Our offense both excelled and was held back with Denard.  Now, we have a more traditional QB and (could have) a stud freshman running back.  Teams that relied on an attack-Denard-and-ignore-everyone-else philosophy (I'm looking at you Sparty) are going to be facing an entirely different foe.  What will our defense bring?  I don't know, but I'm hoping pain.

M_Jason_M

June 7th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^

"Teams that relied on an attack-Denard-and-ignore-everyone-else philosophy (I'm looking at you Sparty) are going to be facing an entirely different foe."
Their coaches and players even admitted as much, saying they would routinely put eight in the box and dare Denard to throw, which he was frankly unable to do against them (and some other teams). With Gardner, they have to actually play pass defense and still worry about a mobile QB, even if they don't run a read option or inverted veer every third play.

blueblooded14

June 7th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^

doesn't lose at home... Therefore UM beats ND and OSU. 4 toss up-ish games on the road (MSU, Iowa, PSU, NW) = average 2 wins. Leaving the maize nd blue at 6-2 in B1G play. In all honesty I think that Michigan should win all of these away games with NW and MSU being the two tougher opponents. This makes the Legends division race very interesting.

Finance-PhD

June 7th, 2013 at 7:13 PM ^

I don't know how much is strength of schedule. It is really just trying to balance the money on each side. The point spread is not a prediction in the strict sense.