I pray for the future of Shippensburg.
mesmerism! presidential assassinations! circuses on fire!
I pray for the future of Shippensburg.
Do Androids not have spell check?
(2) throw away any information trying to recuit my son to Shippensburg State.
Must not forget Kenny Wilkins,the RB from Tennessee. Hoke and Co. always has an ace to play!
I think you mean Jordan Wilkins from TN. He’ll be a tough pull as he is very high on Auburn, but you gotta' have faith.
On paper, it very well could be (and only in the Rivals era as it's very difficult to assess 'hype' previous to that). I still think we would need 1-2 more elite end recruits to really solidify it over the 2003 class. That class, although small and thus ranked low (17 recruits), lead the nation in ave stars at 3.82. Additionally, it actually panned out pretty well. That class gave us Woodley, Burgess (#6 player in the nation!), Long, Crable, Hall, Mundy, Englemon, Kraus, and Rivas.
I would say its the best since recruiting has gotten big (so since around 2003ish). However, its hard to say before that. We had some extremely good classes in the 90's.
The potential close for this class is in a word TREMENDOUS. Look at the players that have Michigan among their top schools:
- Alvin Bailey (Top 3)
- Tashawn Bower (Top 10)
- Kendall Fuller (Top 4)
- Derrick Green (Supposedly in line for a couple of visits)
- Cole Luke (Top 7)
- Leon McQuay (Top 3)
- Wyatt Teller (Top 3)
- LaQuon Treadwell (Top 3 or Top 7 depending on most recent interview)
- Jordan Wilkens (Top 3)
Take any combination of three guys from this list and I'd be happy.
Eddie Vanderdoes told AquaMendous recently that he'll probably take an official to Michigan.
before. I'm going to start using it. Brilliant.
Joe Mathis has Michigan in his top 3, for what it's worth
Hopefully we'll get the last visit.
Maybe I'm just pessimisstic but I have a feeling that Treadwell is the only one off that list that we'll get.
Oh, and you forgot Joe Mathis.
If a couple of the three stars move up into four star territory, Morris gets his fifth star, the rest of the commits are top 250ish players, and Michigan lands one more five star, then it probably is Michigan's best class ever on paper. This seems reasonably likely given what I see on the board here.
As for "best class ever," we're probably not even close. The scenario described above is probably about average for Mack Brown's Texas, Nick Saban's Alabama, Pete Carroll's USC, or Urban Meyer's Florida.
I'm more impressed with the character of this class than some of the Texas, Alabama, USC and Florida classes. I seriously doubt this Michigan class will encounter some of the legal and academic issues that seem to have plagued several of the aforementioned.
Just imagine if Shane keeps up the solid progression, and strong outings he's having at the camps, and lands the #1 PSQB, and to land Green and Treadwell? That's a Tebow, Harvin, James / Cooper. And look at the success that they had. This class has so much potential!
Now that was a class, they didn't let up a point all year if I'm correct their senior years in 1901!
Best class EVAR!!1!one!!1!
we didn't have to oversign!
Nothing like mental masturbation on a monday night.
I think if we pull in Treadwell, its a pretty safe bet we will be no lower than 2. If we land Green as well, I think #1 is a lock.
Regardless, we already have 14 4-star commits, as much as Alabama had in their 2012 class altogther. Granted, they also had 3 5-stars, but if we stopped recruiting right now, and assuming none of our guys decommitted, I think we'd be a lock for top 5, maybe even top 3.
if they fill this class out with the likes of Treadwell, McQuay III, and a 4 star RB then this is one for the ages.
Top to bottom I think it is the best Michigan class at least in the past 15 years that I've been following recruiting... but it lacks some of the super elite skill players of the 97 class (Henson, Walker, Terrel, Fargas, etc) which was also ranked #1/#2 (with UCLA I believe). Tredwell/Green look to be that type of guys though.
As to best ever, not even close... some FSU/Miami/USC?Texas classes of past were just insane... like 5 5-stars, etc
ask me in 5 years....
But let's not get too giddy just yet.
1) It is only June Forcristsakes! This isn't even a class yet for 8 more months, an eternity considering we are discussing the whims and fancies of teenagers.
2) This is only on paper. We really need to see what these guys can do on the field before ranking them as a class.
Hopefully this level of recruiting success becomes the norm and it will be splitting hairs trying to decide which year was the best. It will be harder in coming years I would think, as the depth at all positions grows and the implied promise of early playing time fades.
Regardless, I am just so happy that Hoke and Co. put such a positive image of Michigan out there without giving even a hint of scandal.
Agree about the promise of early playing time but people want to play on successful teams and this team is looking to have a lot of potential coming in.
Why are you taking the name of Dayne Crist in vain?
According to scout Michigan finished 2nd in the nation in 2005.
Let's hope that this class doesn't pull the same disappearing act.
Having the Space Emperor in that class nullifies everything else.
You will have to wait first until NSD, then five years from now. Recruiting class success is measured after they graduate. Some recruits may be hype, some might flunk out, get in trouble, or transfer. Only one thing is certain, Those who stay will be Champions.
these kids are talented and kids Michigan needed. I think needs are very important and somewhat looked over but I think between what Michigan needed and the quality of these kids at those very needy spots makes this class already stand out to be one of the best IMO. Go Blue!!!!
That's a good point. Perhaps not the indisputable best in absolute terms, but its gotta be at least tied as the best recruiting performances by the staff considering need, quality, and the recent lack of success on the field. The tides are changing and all that
A couple more at positions of need, like WR, SDE, RB, and CB would be nice. Don't think that Green is A 5 star but would be great. LT, Leon, a miracle SDE pull would put us n a very good position. The ranking are important for recruits to see, but don't really equate directly to success.
That said, If you look at our 2014 offer list, it's pretty sick. We are pursuing almost every top player. Cant knock Hoke and Co. for lack or ambition or success rates. Part of me wishes we played Bama three years from now.
He emphasized "on paper" pretty clearly. He was his own voice of reason. EVERYONE knows we have to wait 5 years, including the OP.
Apologies for providing my opinion on this blog. I thought it was somewhat silly to base the question on the recruiting sites opinions rather than real results achieved on and off the field. Is it the best on paper, maybe. Does paper mean jack shit when we put on pads, hell no! If that was the case FSU and other teams should be dominating, but they're not.
Also the other part of my previous post and others included a small tid bit of waiting until NSD, when the ink is on the real paper that matters. LOIs. Until that happens, you don't know who has switched jerseys, gone back on promises, and who we pull off on day of. Lets all celebrate our recent success, but 2013 recruiting has a long way to go and at least 4 more spots for us to nail down.
sometimes when I'm feeling a little down I just surf on over to our rivals commit page, pull out the lube, and go to town!
Ive ever read on this blog...
Oh come on...
after "Going to town"
and we can have a real discussion on the matter, along with flying cars, laser guns, warp speed and conference realingment
Warp speed, probably not going to happen in five years...the others, old news...
Ask me in about five years.
I love this class. But those saying we are already a lock for top 3 or 5 need to check out the other schools numbers. There are 6 or 7 schools that could pass us if we don't close well and they do. Including Ohio at an average recruit being 4 flat to our 3.7, or PSU doing surprisingly well considering recent events at around 3.82(can't remember exactly but it was in that ballpark) USC is putting together a crazy class. I love what we're getting, precisely what we need a deep talented bunch to spread some talent around. But we have to keep it in perspective. Having our class almost finished means others will gain ground on us and others are putting together great classes too. If we finish weak and end up 6th I'm still happy with what we have.
Any class with Charles Woodson is automatically the best class ever. Fact. After that, this will be our highest rated average of the Rivals era.
I still think we need to land two out of four on Mathis, Treadwell, Mcquay, or Green. Mcquay, TReadwell, and Green would most definately solidify the best of all time. If we got all four other teams would just stop trying and cry.