Ben Gedeon goes 27*225 lbs

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Leads all linebackers.  Well done young man.  OSU's Raekwon Mcmillan does 23

 

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Blueblood2991

March 4th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^

Ben has been really impressive thus far.

In case anyone was wondering, Jabrill did 19. Not bad for a LB considering he weighs 30+ lbs less than most of the other guys. Great for a DB.

Gentleman Squirrels

March 4th, 2017 at 6:18 PM ^

Jabrill's future is likely at safety. Though it'll probably take him a year or two of playing the position to really get the hang of it. Shame he didn't really get a chance to focus at safety, but he's just so damn talented.

Question for the board: At 5'11, is there any concern of Peppers being too short for safety?

Blueblood2991

March 4th, 2017 at 6:34 PM ^

Ideal size is over 6'0", but instincts, speed and agility, and tackling are looked at as more important traits.

Jabrill himself said he's a safety, but said some NFL GM's had asked him about playing RB and slot receiver in interviews this week. There's going to be some adaptation no matter where he goes because he's never played a true position. I think his football IQ speaks for itself, and it won't be an issue.

bronxblue

March 4th, 2017 at 6:13 PM ^

He should do really well at the combine. He was always an elite athlete, and it sucks he burned a redshirt because a fifth year out of him would be pretty solid.

MGoStrength

March 4th, 2017 at 7:32 PM ^

That’s a great bench press and yet tells us nothing of his football playing ability...love it!  Seriously though, I really do.

 

Wolfman

March 4th, 2017 at 8:23 PM ^

These GMs already know about the abilities of these players. Hell, they've got two to three years of tape, condensed to highlight plays in which they appear to be outstanding ,i.e., bulldozing the Rutgers RB as if he were in the offensive huddle vs. plays they appear to have had their asses handed to them. It's up to the experts within the organization to figure out the final score according to the tape, but they're looking for more than that during this time where the pressure alone also adds to the importance of their peformance. Obviously, other than the obvious stated above, this test helps determine not only strength but how much strength a player will have in the fourth quarter compared to his max. 

An effort like this tells the GMs the young man did not take too much time off between the bowl game and the combine. And just as they are able to dissect the aforementioned tape of the Best of and Worst of and give it an overall grade, the combine allows for things like this, i.e., work ethic, and watching the players for an extended period of time gives them an idea as to confidence vs. cockiness, me first vs. us together?, overall comportment, etc. A lot of emphasis is placed, of course, on just what kind of shape any given franchise is in and results of tests can help determine how a certain skill set might help them or if they can do a quick elimination of consideration based on what they need now. 

Those drafting the players knows the value of a given player in regard to their team's present condition. The 40 gets a lot of talk and everyone has a differing opinion. But all of these GMs and other decision makers are aware of the Randy Moss's, Charles Woodson's, D. Robinsons, etc. No matter how good Woodson looked in college in '97, they know if he runs a 40 at 4.6, 4.7, he isn't going to cover an NFL receiver. Just like they know the burners, they know all about the chain movers, those that catch anything in their zip code, and they are looked at completely different than the wide outs. If a receiver they are interested in runs a 40 .2 faster than the receiver they have on the roster now, their eyes open pretty damn wide. As stated, they are aware of what they have in regard to expected time of protection from the OL, amount oif time it takes QB to cleanly release the pass. In a case like that, it could allow them to dust off a significant number of passing plays they've set aside because this rookie allows the requisite amount of time based on what their current roster is capable of. 

As others have said, these tests mean different things to different organizations. Peyton's last year, for example, I'm sure Denver would have felt a lot better, and they probably acquired them, the higher the number of chain movers, opposed to flat out burners. 

I know they don't enjoy it as much as we, but as a fan I'm always impressed with a certain time, i.e., Ross or Bo's never to be matched 40, whether or not he actually ran that damn fast. 

CJRockford

March 5th, 2017 at 12:17 AM ^

You had me at "These GMs already know about the abilities of these players. Hell, they've got two to three years of tape, condensed to highlight plays in which they appear to be outstanding ,i.e., bulldozing the Rutgers RB as if he were in the offensive huddle vs. plays they appear to have had their asses handed to them. It's up to the experts within the organization to figure out the final score according to the tape, but they're looking for more than that during this time where the pressure alone also adds to the importance of their peformance. Obviously, other than the obvious stated above, this test helps determine not only strength but how much strength a player will have in the fourth quarter compared to his max.

An effort like this tells the GMs the young man did not take too much time off between the bowl game and the combine. And just as they are able to dissect the aforementioned tape of the Best of and Worst of and give it an overall grade, the combine allows for things like this, i.e., work ethic, and watching the players for an extended period of time gives them an idea as to confidence vs. cockiness, me first vs. us together?, overall comportment, etc. A lot of emphasis is placed, of course, on just what kind of shape any given franchise is in and results of tests can help determine how a certain skill set might help them or if they can do a quick elimination of consideration based on what they need now.

Those drafting the players knows the value of a given player in regard to their team's present condition. The 40 gets a lot of talk and everyone has a differing opinion. But all of these GMs and other decision makers are aware of the Randy Moss's, Charles Woodson's, D. Robinsons, etc. No matter how good Woodson looked in college in '97, they know if he runs a 40 at 4.6, 4.7, he isn't going to cover an NFL receiver. Just like they know the burners, they know all about the chain movers, those that catch anything in their zip code, and they are looked at completely different than the wide outs. If a receiver they are interested in runs a 40 .2 faster than the receiver they have on the roster now, their eyes open pretty damn wide. As stated, they are aware of what they have in regard to expected time of protection from the OL, amount oif time it takes QB to cleanly release the pass. In a case like that, it could allow them to dust off a significant number of passing plays they've set aside because this rookie allows the requisite amount of time based on what their current roster is capable of."

As others have said, these tests mean different things to different organizations. Peyton's last year, for example, I'm sure Denver would have felt a lot better, and they probably acquired them, the higher the number of chain movers, opposed to flat out burners.

I know they don't enjoy it as much as we, but as a fan I'm always impressed with a certain time, i.e., Ross or Bo's never to be matched 40, whether or not he actually ran that damn fast.

MGoStrength

March 5th, 2017 at 9:44 AM ^

As a fan I love it and as an avid trainee I love it even more considering I can probably only do 225 for 10-12 reps at 190 lbs.  But, I believe it’s pretty meaningless to evaluating a football player.  

 

Don’t get me wrong as a strength coach I did all these test with our college players.  It’s a great way internally to evaluate if an S&C program is working.  But, that doesn’t tell us anything about their sport playing ability.  It’s the S&C coaches job to keep the players healthy, get them bigger, faster, stronger, more agile, improve fitness, etc.  It’s the position coach’s job to take those increased traits of athleticism and turn them into better football players.

 

Jimmyisgod

March 5th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^

Charlton ran a 4.92, a little slower than I thought he would. At 277 lbs and a 4-3 DE I was hoping he would run more in the 4.8 flat range. Glasgow ran a 5.14. Malik McDowell ran a 4.86 at 296 lbs and measured a little taller than Charlton across the board.