Belichick Runs Brady Over With Bus
Or not I guess.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/belichick-subtly-points-finger-at-brady/
It seems like he is really throwing Brady under the bus on this one. I guess we will see what Brady has to say at 4 but it seems like the coach could have presented more of a united front here.
(changed title as people did not care for the joke)
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
Well its because it happened in the playoffs in a one and done format and it was done by a team that has a history of breaking rules for a competitve advantage a week after they scored a td on a crucial drive using a tactic that most people involved in football was outside the spirit of the game if not technically illegal and that the refs probably messed up by allowing to happen. The context has certainly made the story bigger than the crime warrants but its like when a famous person gets a dui, happens all the time (sadly) but its only a news story when someone famous gets caught. Deflating balls happens all the time but its only a big news story when it happens to the patriots in the playoffs. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
but they didn't break the rules with Spygate. It was not cheating by ther NFL rulebook then.
I know that's a common opinion, but what they did was not against ther rules when they did it, it was just against some perceived and unwritten code of ethics betweern coaches. Only after it happened did the rules change.
I am sure that won't matter to you because logic doesn't seem to, but that's kind of a major point people always leave out.
January 22nd, 2015 at 1:45 PM ^
If no rules were broken why did they get punished?
January 22nd, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 1:48 PM ^
They should be given the 25k fine that is in the rulebooks, nothing more nothing less. I'm just pushing back against the people who seem to think that because other people do it it isn't a)breaking the rules and b) doesn't give an advantage to the team
January 22nd, 2015 at 2:03 PM ^
Before you fine New England, don't you have to first establish they did something with an actual intent to deflate the footballs? So far, all I have heard is conjecture, speculation and wishful thinking from the New England haters, but really very little that is strong on facts.
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:48 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^
I'm confused. Why does your thread title say the opposite thing that the linked story does?
My takeaway: Belichick is a dick. News at 11. And I can remember five MGoBlog threads on this topic, which seems like at least four too many.
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
I was trying to point out how ridiculous it was that Belichick is throwing Brady under the bus instead of supporting his quarterback who won him three championships. The idea was the title showed what Belichick should have done and the article shows what he did do. By looking at the voting I guess this did not come across correctly. I will update the title.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
Five too many Turd.
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:49 AM ^
Nice troll job with the thread title, and you also managed to post a PFT article written by Mike Trollio. Seriously, the only purpose for that guy's existence is the fabricating of HOT SPROTS TAKES.
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
"Tom’s personal preferences on his footballs are something that he can talk about in much better detail and information than I could possibly provide.”
Well, Bill has just made Tom's presser much more interesting and perhaps not in a good way as it drags out what really shouldn't be a huge story. To a point made in response to this, yeah, I assume Brady knew Belichick gets asked this question, but the answer does squarely direct people to Brady as the technical expert of sorts on this one. If he wasn't sure how much he'd have to speak to this at his presser, Tom has a good idea now, I bet (seeing how the media is eating this up, it was going to be the dominant topic regardless).
That aside, Belichick might very well be less familiar with the particulars of this portion of pre-game - I wouldn't think he would typically fret over this detail of the preparations, but I asusme that at this stage of his career he knows the high-level summary at minimum.
In the end, it underscores the need for outlets to cover something else - this story seems like it has been blown up to about 100,000x its needed size as it is.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^
I have a hard time believing that Belickick would have gone out there and said that without Brady knowing exactly what he was going to say ahead of time.
January 22nd, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^
you have all your ducks in a row. It's being blown way out of proportion and any mis-speak will keep the fires burning.
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^
I completely disagree that he is throwing Brady under the bus. I think what he is trying to say, and it comes out much more if you read the whole statement, is that Belichick was not very familiar with the process of how the ball is handled before the game, and why would he be? I would think if you are preparing for a game, you arent worried about something you would assume happens automatically (balls being ready for the game). And he is completely right, it is logical to think that Brady knows more about pre-game ball preparation than Bill does, as Brady is the one touching the ball every down.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:04 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^
I certainly understand your point, and as a head coach, he should at least be somewhat familiar with the procedure. What I am trying to say is that ball pressure is probably one of the last things on Belichick's mind before a game.
If the opposing team said that their headsets kept not working while playing the pats and it was discovered that they were given headsets with low battery, NFL officials might ask Belichick if he knew anything about it, and he would say that the equiment manager would know more about it than he would.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^
As the leader of the organization to provide the response. Regardless of his involvement the team needs to respond to what has become a major story, rightly or wrongly. I am not sure what the Patriots response is but, “Talk to Tom” seems like Belichick making someone else deal with what should be his responsibility.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^
"Tom, what would you say about this underinflating controversy?"
"Well, it would make me wonder how we outscored Indy 28-0 in the 2nd half after the refs reinflated the balls. Maybe the refs put to much air back in."
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:08 AM ^
I'm sure all quarterbacks have personal preferences on footballs.
For me questions are:
Did the refs actually inspect the footballs as they are supposed to?
Were the balls deflated after passing inspection?
By who, how and when were the balls deflated?
How widespread is this?
Why is the "investigation" taking so long?
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:10 AM ^
Deflating balls equals better running game? Didn't Blount have like 15 rushing TDs in this game? How did 2psi gash the Colts defence on the ground?
January 22nd, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
The media doesn't want that to be the actual focus... Back to Brady and Bill.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:10 AM ^
Is the MLB going to try and disqualify a homerun because there was too much pine tar on the bat?
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^
2 pounds per is clearly the difference in the game. Clearly 11/12 balls being underinflated is evidence that the Patriots deliberately cheated. The umpire, who touches the ball before every play, doesn't have to grip the ball tightly like the players so he wouldn't have noticed it.
Give me a break.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^
keeps getting bigger and more stupid. OK, the balls were underinflated. In the future, the NFL should do a better job monitoring them. End of debate.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:17 AM ^
Yeah, the only bus I see is the one transporting all of the NFL writers to and from the horribly hyperbolic conclusions they are making about this story and the parties involved.
It's a nothing story that won't ever die, but anyone thinking Bellicheck is throwing his QB under any moving vehicle with comments like "I don't want to comment on how my QB likes his balls inflated when he can answer those questions for you".
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:42 AM ^
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January 22nd, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
We're talking about 2 pounds of deflation here. A 20-degree temperature swing doesn't cause that.
January 22nd, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^
Unless the NFL measured the balls at game termperature, the temperature is irrelevant. If the NFL measured the balls at room temperature, the PSI of the balls would have returned to their original value.
Air pressure goes down when it the balls get cold, but it isn't permanent. The air pressure would go back up when the balls were warmed up again. I'm assuming the NFL measured the balls indoors at room temperature, not outside in freezing temps. So if the balls were low indoors at room temp, they were clearly underinflated. A miniscule amout of that could be attributed to use, but not 2 psi.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:32 AM ^
You are silly if you don't think this is a calculated move. Belichek can't take the heat for anything like this or they'll try to suspend him or levy a huge fine. Brady can get away with anything, they're not gonna do shit to him. This was a smart move. Brady will deny everything, there's no proof, and game over.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^
Much more ado about nothing.
Maybe Tom told Bill that he would be able to handle the specific questions about "deflategate"?
Nah, that's crazy talk. THREW HIM UNDER THE BUS I SAY!
That Bill Bellichek. What an evil bastard.
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:48 AM ^
All things considered I doubt Tom prefers his footballs underinflated.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
It's a shame Brady has to play for this jerk. Brady made Belichick's career.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
on this board about this incident. I don't think anyone (or at least any reasonable person) is saying that Tom Brady and the Patriots that they won the Colts game because they underinflated the footballs. That's not the story. The Patriots were the better team and outplayed the Colts end of story. They deserve to be in the Superbowl.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
on this board about this incident. I don't think anyone (or at least any reasonable person) is saying that Tom Brady and the Patriots that they won the Colts game because they underinflated the footballs. That's not the story. The Patriots were the better team and outplayed the Colts end of story. They deserve to be in the Superbowl. The story is that they break rules to gain an advantage--whether they needed it or not. And after today's Belichik interview, the story is that Tom Brady does it. As others have said, other sports stars cheat--Tom's not the only cheater. He's still a HOF player. What's the outrage?
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^
and Brady has been fortunate to play for him. Coach may not be the best person, but just think what the Lions could do with a guy like that at the helm, long term.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
before the game and then give them back the teams. Inspect an hour before or keep someone with an eye on them until they are on the field. This isn't rocket science. Has anyone tried inflating one to 13 PSI getting a feel for it and then deflating to 10.5 and seeing the differene? I seriously it's enough to change the outcome of a game that was 45-7!!!!
January 22nd, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^
So cheating is okay unless it changes who won the game?
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
The NFL supply the balls and don't give the teams the opportunity to doctor them. Huh!!!
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
That's a long title, OP. Suggestion as to how to shorten it:
"HC of NEP hits QB with bus".
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^
Added Boomer Esiason, also to CBS Sports.com: “It really does seem totally ridiculous that this story has been blown so far out of proportion. If you look at the footballs that the quarterbacks are playing with and throwing for the last six or seven years, you just realize that everybody is doing the same thing.”
“Every team tampers with the footballs,” former NFL quarterback Matt Leinart said in a tweet. “Ask any QB in the league, this is ridiculous!!”
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^
Why does the NFL require a ball inflate pressure that presents an inferior product?
If Tom Brady performs better with a football at 10.5psi then why can't he use a football at that pressure? Where is the advantage? Let Andrew Luck inflate/deflate to the pressure he desires.
It's not like basketball where you share the ball every 35 seconds.
I really do not understand the issue I guess.
January 22nd, 2015 at 8:46 PM ^
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
Espn's headline changed within 2hours from: Belichick shocked about deflated footballs to "Belichick shocked; shifts attention to Brady"
Media's working real hard to continue rabble-rousing here. BB said he didnt know about personal player preferences for footballs, and that Brady could talk about his preferences more than he could. Big whoop. I highly doubt this is a major rift btw one of the most successful coach-QB pairings of all time.
I just dont see how there's going to be anything coming from this unless there's a smoking gun of some Patriots ballboy caught on film deflating the footballs. This isnt Spygate until there's some hard proof they did this on purpose.
Personally, I have no issue if they do everything they can outside of letting the air out of the ball to modify the football. Inflate it with high temp gas that then cools and drops below the standard weight, store the footballs in a meat locker, whatever. Its all part of the game and gaming the system that the NFL allows by letting teams care for their own footballs.