Beilein's seat

I think the NCAA tourney appearance and win over Clemson buys him some time.  That was the first tournament appearance for the program in 11 years.  

If the team craps out this year and next, then maybe there would be something to the "hot seat" comment.  The recruiting thus far has not been terrible.  Would be nice to develop a big man.  

I look forward to football and basketball season's in which the discussion going into the season does not revolve around how hot the coaches seat is.

'11 will be the best one yet.  If only he could convince a top end big man to come (or stay) in Michigan, the class would be one of the best in the nation (top 15 or so).  Maybe he can borrow some of that snake oil from RR. 

Not surprising to hear someone declare his seat is hot, but I think he should be given some leeway until the end of next year.  College basketball success is all about recruiting well.  He is gaining momentum and I suspect the team will show some vast improvement in by next year (will be tough to replace the amount of points they lost from last year). 

Anyway, I think he is a great coach if he can just get some high end talent to work with.  Yes he had two incredibly talented players the past two years, but was hard pressed to find points outside of those two. 

His seat is not hot.  Bill Martin just gave him a contract extension last year, so unless crap really hits the fan, nothing will happen for at least two years.

This year will be rough because we lost 2/3 of our scoring AND we have no seniors on this team... not even walk-ons who own clothing companies or appear in gubenatorial campaign ads.

I used to be mor skeptical of Beileins' recruiting, but it has significantly improved since his class of Stu Douglass and Zack Novak.  As long as we can stomach this year (please get NIT bid), I imagine things will start turning around.

After all the crap our B-Ball program has been through, we get the highest character guy out there, and people are thinking his seat is hot already? C'mon man!  Give the guy some damn time. I realize that something provocative has to be written, but use some sense.

but if we finish at the bottom of the conference and don't make it to any postseason tournaments this season AND if the recruiting continues to be somewhat disappointing AND if we have another bad season next year, then I think it will definitely be warm at that point. Those are a lot of "ifs" though.

Edit: there are two interpretations of what constitutes a "hot seat":

1) Disgruntled/disappointed fans writing UNACCEPTABLE on message boards and blogs and yammering on radio call-in shows; or

2) Disgruntled/disappointed athletic directors writing UNACCEPTABLE in their emails to the coach and higher-ups in the university.

One is just so much meaningless hot air, the other is a bad sign for the coach.

As soon as Beilein gets a great inside presence/ consistent rebounding presence they will be just like WVU when he was there( A consistent tournament {NCAA-NIT} team with records over .500).  Lets hope Metrics and Horford can hold their own this year and we see a very exciting team.  In reality I don't think Beilein's seat should be hot.

This is one guy writing something - guessing he knows little about Michigan.

Who predicted us to finish last in the Big Ten?  Could be true - I just hadn't seen it.

i think if he has a turrible year that his seat might get a little toasty. like if he left his seat warmer in his cadillac on a little too long. but nothing more than that. 

Bielien inherited a train wreck of a basketball program. He got us to the tournament during his second year. His recruiting classes have gotten progressively better. The bottom line is job is safe. The writer obviously hasn't been following the Michigan basketball program over the last 13 years. 

read to much into the contract extension, we have seen that contract extensions are often not even indicators of job secuirty in this day and age. 

I think that JB had a really dissapointing season last year, as I did not think the team really looked like a prepared or motivated basketball team.  I don't think he made the most of his personnel and went system over substance in a year in which they could have made some noise.  Last year made the tourney appearance and relative success look more like a fluke than anything else.

As such, I don't think he is as comfy as he was 18 months ago, but I think he has a little more wiggle room than this peice indicates.  Keep in mind, nearly none of the past success of the Michigan basketball team, dating back possibly to the 89 title run, was on the level.  Tommy A. got four years to bring some dignity back to the program, and I feel like he was successful.  This is phase 2, and the program has a long way to go.

...is probably made of some sort of foam cushion with a nice leather exterior.

but I do think he needs to improve over last year within the next 2 years.  We significantly underperformed last year IMO, and that was with a junior Manny (not likely to get someone like him in the future, plz be good THJ) and a senior Sims.  However, we also significantly overperformed our expectations 2 years ago, so JB has shown he can get it done.

We have a super super young team of his guys now and I'm willing to let them age a bit to see what JB can do with them.

...the MBB program going in the right direction, low expectations for 2010-11 notwithstanding. The new basketball practice/office facility and Crisler upgrades have already significantly aided recruiting and that's before they're complete. 

His seat is cold.

Umm, subpar recruiting?

take a look at the espn rankings for the last 3 years.  We are moving in the right direction.  They're rankings are

Darius Morris (ESPNU100) 90

Vogrich89

McLimans 85

Morgan 79

Smotrycz (ESPNU 100) 94

Hardaway (ESPNU 100) 93

Horford 88

Christian 85

Brundige (ESPNU 100) 96

Burke (ESPNU 100) 95

and we are in the top 3 for amir williams (ESPNU 100) 96. 

and glenn robinson (94) is committed for next year already. 

We have been lacking big men, but injury to cronin and morgan didn't help.  He is on the right track.  We've been in the toilet long enough, we can wait a few more years with Beilien.

It’s too easy to be pessimistic about Michigan’s 2010-11 men’s basketball season. Could this season be the low-point in Michigan basketball history and the greatest challenge in John Beilein’s coaching career? It might.

Without having seen any pre-season predictions, I would not be surprised to see Michigan picked to finish last in the Big Ten by most prognosticators. But I’ve been impressed by how John Beilein seems to keep his cool, despite the heat on his coaching seat at Michigan, and I would be surprised to see him coaching elsewhere next season.  Maybe he'll like the challenge of a "hot seat" and keep his team and his other coaches more focused.

If he can lead a team with no seniors, two juniors, no star players, negligible front-court height and few players who would be starters on any other team in the Big Ten to as many as ten wins this coming season, John Beilein’s job should be very safe for the 2011-12 season. A season with fewer than five wins, with two of those wins coming against South Carolina Upstate and Concordia and none of them coming in the Big Ten, and dissension within the player ranks might signal a different result (unless the average margin of defeat is kept under ten points and there are few blowout losses.)

If Michigan’s players remain relatively healthy, if their outside shots fall at a better-than-40% pace, so they limit the one-and-done trips that plagued them last season, if they can play aggressive defense for 40 minutes (maybe rotating as many as 12 players to keep everyone fresh, limit foul-out risks, and not overextend the freshmen who will be expected to contribute), 10 wins this season should be a reasonable goal. Anything better should be considered a success.

That is all

Continuity is always best, but continuity is way less important in basketball. 1 or 2 impact players can turn the fortune of a team and the future of a program. 

Those factors work for Coach Beilein and could work against him if improvement isn't shown.  

I am way less confident about his security long term than I am Rich's. 

When I need a good cry, I google Benzing.  The guy has turned into Dirk Nowitzki Jr.

I know these guys have a job to do, but Beilein should not be mentioned as a guy who has any concerns about his future at Michigan.  He's been recruiting well, he has a new training facility under construction, he's revamped his staff and he's finally able to run his style of offense with his players.  Lastly, he did a nice job of fitting Sims and Harris within a semi-version of his offense the past couple of years.  They obviously were not well suited for it, but both the coach and the players altered their original expectations and we had a nice little run in the NCAA tourney two years ago. 

Tepid right now. What that national commentator is doing is getting some vibes about what "could" happen by season's end.  And this could be an AWFUL season: the range of outcomes includes getting repeatedly blown out, game after game, in the Big Ten. It COULD be very embarrassing.  And that kind of messy result becomes reality where you have alot of underclasssmen, and too many "sixth men" not only starting, but attempting to lead the way.  (Douglass and Novak - Don't get me wrong, I love those two, but they are, by rights, complimentary, not trail-breaking guys.)

If we win 5 to 7 games this year, Beilein could be sitting on some pretty warm coals.   The other disturbing factor, I think, is that he hasn't shown any facility for getting the "home-state" guys away from MSU (and even Central.)  Maybe it's dwelling too much on the past, but no college team in Michigan has roundly succeeded without having a predominance of the best players out of Detroit, Flint, and Saginaw.  Beilein, as far as I can tell, not only has had little success recruiting in Michigan -- it's not at all clear he is focussed on doing the kinds fo things you need to do to build that base. That's not good.

I don't see Michigan being Iowa bad or anything that low. With all the young guys involved I think this kind of team is exactly what the Coach wants and I think he does his best when he is teaching the kids.

I'm excited for the season and I think Michigan is going to be a tough team to play against.

I think they will be taller and more physical this year even with a younger team.

I hate losing as much as the next guy but he needs to get 2-3 more years ... he got us to the tourny and won a game ... also while he still failing to recruit in the D (not easy considering Izzo is a God) he has shown in the latest classes that he can get it done ... if we give him time (and we will) i think we will become a top 25 program on a yearly basis