Love that man!
Beilein's Regret - USA Today Article
everyone but Nik, obviously. (Standing at attention that is...) Because he...I mean.
this is one of the dumbest statements i've read. Does this mean that when the Canadian national anthem is played before a game in the USA that you just stand and screw around on your phone with your hat on? This is the problem I have with some people... The anthem is a damn sign of respect so fucking show respect. I guarantee you Stauskas stands at attention and treats the American national anthem the same way he would the Canadian anthem.
Not to make myself seem all pro-'merica but I'll have you know that I stand and SING the American national anthem before each Michigan game I attend (season ticket holder for Football and Hockey). I take my hat off and stand at attention as a sign of respect to those brave men and women who serve(d) and defend(ed) your country because they deserve that respect from anyone and everyone enjoying the freedom to attend a fucking sporting event.
it was a joke. I was kidding.
I'm about as American as they come...retired military, service academy graduate, sickeningly patriotic.
Lighten up, Francis.
Edit: And besides, if THIS is the dumbest thing you've read...you need to peruse the blogosphere a bit more. Either that or follow some of the OTHER things I say....
My apologies man. Was a rough morning and I guess I misunderstood your post a bit. Still not a fan of it but I understand I overreacted.
I think your sarcasm meter is off.
To be fair, isn't that what "/s" is for?
the "/s" is implied.
And remember, sarcasm is simply a form of humor.
Fuck yeah, brother.
"Because he... is not just a shooter."
You are welcome. ;-)
Maybe because a lot of parents of kids who are top-tier athletes in money-making sports like football and basketball see their kids more as meal tickets than wanting a classy coach. Hence the desire to play on glorified AAU teams like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, UNC, etc.
...but rapist-protecting Hoke has in now way earned the right to be spoken in the same breath as Beilin.
I'm certainly not going to ever be accused of being a Hoke or Gibbons apologist but that's WAY over the line.
On all fronts.
you know that for certain and there's no way any of us will ever know what happened when and who knew what.
Like MGrowOld said...WAY over the line.
Yep. Apparently Canadian didn't make it this far down the thread before he responded to your earlier post.
Or it was nearly an hour later... Time is a hard concept
He makes doing it right look easy.
Class Act!!!!! We are very lucky to have a men like him leading our team.
Everything about John Beilein is class. Not much more to say except I am thankful he leads Michigan basketball.
Love the respect for our troops and flag.
I'm sure Beilein did not mean to imply that freezing on a hill in Afganistan is the worst thing our troops face.
I didn't understand what the "Regret" was until I followed the link. For those of you who didn't follow the link, the title of the article is "Michigan's Beilein regrets he didn't serve country".
Without ripping off USA today completely I couldn't think of a good title. Sorry to mislead.
No biggie. I would never have seen this article if you didn't post it. So, thanks!
Thanks for the link. I only started following Michigan basketball after Coach Belein got here. I have enjoyed his teems and their play. Coach Belein oozes class and that class is usually personified in his players. I would love to have my kid play and learn with him.
Lets get subs!
winning with class...not much more you can ask for beyond that...
getting a sub for lunch today. I know it may not be the same thing as freezing in Afghanistan, but it's the least I can do. No seriously, it is probably the least I can do.
Technically, you could not eat anything at all. That would be less.
It's great to be a fan of a school that hires great humans.
I'm trying to think of something I don't like about Coach Beilein.
About all I can come up is that he spells his last name funny (e before I - come ON) which caused me to screw it up several times before I finally committed the correct spelling to memory.
That's all I got. SO glad he's our coach.
I see so many fans with hats on, talking and such, during the National Anthem.
It saddens me greatly to see that much disrespect for those who gave their all so that we could enjoy a Saturday Afternoon of Football.
I honestly don't see that as disrespectful. Societal norms have changed, and taking off your hat when, for example, being introduced to someone is no longer deemed 'proper' etiquette (at least in the social circles I inhabit). I think it's easy to see how that mindset gets extended to the national anthem.
Talking during it is a different story.
it seems that the whole tradition of removing one's hat is specifically to show respect...because its respectful. Somewhat circular logic there, but it all started in the days of Knights doing battle, raising your right hand to lift your face shield and prove you had no weapon in your hand.
Its actually a law, or at one point it was, that men must remove their hat during the National Anthem. However, there is no punishment for failing to do so. In a way it is a tradition that has stuck and any "societal norms" that change WRT this particular tradition do so because society permits it, and only in my opinion, allow it because showing respect is not high on folks' priority list these days.
during the National Anthem is absoluteley disrespectful of any American Serviceman who put their very life on the line so that you could enjoy that event in relative peace and freedom.
There is no room for discussion on this matter. It is absolutely black and white, either you respect those who watered the tree of liberty with their very own blood or you don't.
Removing your cap and placing your right hand over your heart is the very sign of respect for those who died and left pieces of themselves in far-off lands to keep you free and secure in your pursuit of happiness.
50 years ago removing your hat was seen as proper behavior, and a way of showing respect in general. Because of that view not doing so was appropriately seen as disrespectful.
Today, removing your hat to show respect is seen as old fashioned, and not something that is generally done. Not removing your hat in a situation where 50 years ago you would have does not mean it is a sign of disrespect. Etiquette has changed.
My personal view is that in addition to being a sign of respect, removing your hat was a sign of deferrance to those who were your betters. As society has become more equal this type of behavior has started disappearing.
As a side note, I do not wear hats.
No need to worry; people don't really wear hats around anymore
"He's way more than a basketball coach," Brandon said. "He sees himself as a teacher and a coach and part of his job is to prepare his players for life."
To me, this as much as anything that John Beilein does is why I would love for my kids to play for someone like this. This is one of the primary reasons that I really, really am proud that he is on staff at the University Of Michigan.
I thought the "regret" part was going to be that he's spent many of his Sub-loving days ordering from Subway, when there are clearly better options out there (Jersey Mike's, Potbelly, and AA specifics like DiBella's, Sottini's, etc.).
Correction. DiBella's is NOT "AA specific", they are very much a national chain. How do I know this? Because this bad boy's got my name written all over it for lunch and I'm working in Beachwood, Ohio.
Oh nice, good to know! I've never seen them anywhere else but that's just my problem, I guess. Certainly not yours.
Now I'm hungry. I think I'm grabbing a Cuban from Cafecito in Chicago today. One of the best sandwiches in the city.
Not to mention that being in the service in 1971 meant a high probability of going to Vietnam to fight in the most unpopular foreign war in our history, a war whose advocates even admitted had gone very poorly.
But cosign on all the comments about Beilein as a man and coach. I've got an itchy trigger finger ready for the inevitable jackhole who tries to dismiss what he's accomplished this year if we lose this weekend.
Which is one of the reasons why, when visiting Houston recently with my family, I made sure my son and daugther approached three Marines in uniform and thank them for their service. My son even asked them for a photo and they obliged.
I could do much, much worse than to have my kids earn the right to wear the Marine Corps service dress blue uniform.
Agreed. If you can't/won't/didn't join there's no shame in really appreciating and showing pride in what those who have made the ultimate sacrifice or served at all give our country. My first baseball coach (my dad) always impressed upon us that fact that we were lucky to grow up in a country where we can play sports at all.
Considering Beilein's uncles inspired Saving Private Ryan
What a family
Patriotism is great and all. And America can be a decent country at times.
Having said that, national anthems really have no place at sporting events. It just subverts the games for blatantly nationalistic propaganda that we could all really do without.
Can't tell if serious....
If so, GTFO.
And next up in the "Inflammatory Opinions About Harmless Things that Will Only Enrage People" category is your rant about how we should take "In God We Trust" off our coinage. Go for it, man.
You win all the arguments this thread could provide.*
*EXCEPTION: any arguemts about subs, grinders,and sandwiches.
Are you talking about hoagies?
....not inflammatory, it's reasoned and intelligent. You are the one with the uncritical, yet overtly over-reactionist opinion.
As for coinage, frankly, that argument has nothing to do with sports so I don't see why you would even bring it up.
National Anthem>>>>>>>>>RAWK MUSIC
... and 9/11 & July 4th are just days on the calendar.
Here's hoping I'm just not "getting" the sarcasm.
Wow dude you are on a freaking troll-roll this thread. First accuse Hoke of protecting a rapist (two for one troll on that one - assume guilt for Gibbons, assume knowledge by Hoke) and then you decide to inflame posters inside a thread about patriotism by attacking the USA.
Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?
Then do it, care less.
Put in a less trolling tone, I've also wondered why immediately prior to some sporting events is the correct time to express a few minutes of patriotism. For example, why is the national anthem performed before a college basketball game or a professional football game, but never some other public event such as a movie, concert, musical, etc., at least that I am aware of?
I'm not saying we shouldn't occassionally take a few minutes to be grateful for what we have in this country and to thank those who have sacrificied for it, nor do I think we should do away with the national anthem at sporting events... but what exactly makes the beginning of a game the ideal time for patriotism?
On military bases the anthem is played before every movie.
Natesh and I graduated from Pioneer High School together in 1991 -- never pictured him as a Navy pilot.
Coach B is the best!
Budd: So, which "R" you filled with?
Elle Driver: What?
Budd: They say the number one killer of old people is retirement. People got 'em a job to do, they tend to live a little longer so they can do it. I've always figured warriors and their enemies share the same relationship. So, now you ain't gonna hafta face your enemy on the battlefield no more, which "R" are you filled with: Relief or Regret?
Elle Driver: A little bit of both.
Budd: Bullshit. I'm sure you do feel a little bit of both. But I know damn well you feel one more than you feel the other. The question was, which one?
Elle Driver: Regret.
Elle Driver: [to Budd, as he is dying] Now in these last agonizing minutes of life you have left, let me answer the question you asked earlier more thoroughly. Right at this moment, the biggest "R" I feel is Regret. Regret that maybe the greatest warrior I have ever known, met her end at the hands of a bushwhackin, scrub, alky piece of shit like you. That woman deserved better.