so much for that
Beilein Reaches 100 Wins at Michigan
December 8th, 2012 at 3:10 PM | 
Hopefully only goods things
Hopefully only goods things
December 8th, 2012 at 3:11 PM |
The next 100 will be even quicker
The next 100 will be even quicker
Couldn't be happier for Beilein and this team. What a great group to watch. Loved how they took Arkansas' best and just kept rolling. It's going to take a very good club to beat these guys.
Go Blue!
December 8th, 2012 at 3:15 PM |
It's a good sign
It's a good sign
When a BCS team ranked something like 100 in Kenpom goes 10-17 from 3 and you win by 13.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 8th, 2012 at 4:41 PM |
Most of
Most of
those 3s were wide open. I am happy for JB but this team needs to find a way to take teams out of what they want to do offensively. They are a very exciting team and almost automatic on offense, but they need to D up if they want to live into late March/early April.
December 8th, 2012 at 5:08 PM |
We definitely need to get
We definitely need to get
We definitely need to get better at our defensive rotations. Arkansas was also getting to the basket too easily in the second half. Horford may need more minutes; he's our only real shotblocking presence.
December 8th, 2012 at 6:26 PM |
Whether they were wide open or not
Whether they were wide open or not
is basically irrelevant. As Kenpom likes to point out, a team has as much control over its opponents' 3 point shooting percentage as it does over their free throw shooting percentage. Which is to say, none at all. You can control how many 3s your opponents take. You can't control what happens once they take them.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 8th, 2012 at 6:39 PM |
Yes, but if you leave a good
Yes, but if you leave a good
Yes, but if you leave a good shooter wide open on the perimeter, he'll attempt more threes. If he has a guy in his grille, he won't. In our defense, we literally didn't prepare for Haydar (as Beilein acknowledged after the game) because we had no idea he was going to play, but going forward, we need to be quicker on our rotations.
December 9th, 2012 at 5:07 PM |
I put
I put
as much stock in KenPom as I do the messages inside the fortune cookies I am about to eat. All I know is that Arkansas was rising and firing at will, with a hand not really to be found anywhere. An elite team gets stops. I believe the lack of defensive pressure is largely a product of Stu Douglas hangover as he was a specialist at making things difficult for an opposing team up top offensively. Somebody else will end up filling that role. But trust me when I tell you that our offensive production is really masking a pretty noticeable defensive deficiency, NC State, Bradley, and Arkansas have all really had their way with us, it was just a matter outscoring them. That is not a lasting recipe for success.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:11 PM |
I JUST SAW THE OLD BIG TEN
I JUST SAW THE OLD BIG TEN
I JUST SAW THE OLD BIG TEN LOGO ON A CBS COMMERCIAL. DEFCON 5
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
December 8th, 2012 at 3:13 PM |
I'm going to go out on a limb
I'm going to go out on a limb
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he gets his next 100 wins faster than his first.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:18 PM |
Congrats Coach!!!
Congrats Coach!!!
Well done. I am so proud of this guy. He has done an amazing job with lesser known talent. Now that he is getting big time recruits, there is no limit to what he can accomplish.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:29 PM |
As stated above
As stated above
It won't take nearly as long to get win 200, I'd say probably in 4 seasons including this one.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:38 PM |
Best of All
Best of All
Best of all he did it the right way. Quality players; quality coaching.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing”
--Bo Schembechler
December 8th, 2012 at 3:48 PM |
Coaches with 100 wins
Coaches with 100 wins
| E.J. Mather | 108-53 | 1919-20 - 1927-28 |
| Dave Strack | 113-89 | 1960-61 - 1968-69 |
| Johnny Orr | 209-113 | 1968-69 - 1979-80 |
| Bill Frieder | 191-87 | 1980-81 - 1988-89 |
| Steve Fisher | 184-82* | 1989 - 1996-97 |
| Tommy Amaker | 109-83 | 2001-02 - 2006-07 |
| John Beilein | 100-77 | 2007-08 - present |
*Record is officially 108-53 according to NCAA due to sanctions
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
December 8th, 2012 at 3:51 PM |
What this list shows me
What this list shows me
is that Amaker and Beilein are equally good coaches.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:55 PM |
I saw that too. Crazy that
I saw that too. Crazy that
I saw that too. Crazy that they had essentially the same record at 100 wins.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:59 PM |
Amaker won his games in
Amaker won his games in
Amaker won his games in cupcake non conference and NIT.
Beilein's record hurt by a terrible roster his first year and the disappointing 3rd year.
December 8th, 2012 at 4:21 PM |
idk, but it seems like just a snapshot
idk, but it seems like just a snapshot
This season may be over before Beilein loses 6 more times. When that does eventually happen, I have strong feeling Beilein will have many more wins than Amaker had w his 83 losses.
Every man at some point is gonna lose a battle. He's gonna fight and he's gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. This game is not over, this battle is not over. So let's hear it .
December 8th, 2012 at 4:51 PM |
if Coach Beilein gets anywhere near Fisher's succes at 82 losses
if Coach Beilein gets anywhere near Fisher's succes at 82 losses
that's also very impressive considering the opposite situations they each inherited re state of the program.
Every man at some point is gonna lose a battle. He's gonna fight and he's gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. This game is not over, this battle is not over. So let's hear it .
December 8th, 2012 at 5:22 PM |
It's weird that our school
It's weird that our school
It's weird that our school record is only 209 wins. For various reasons, we've never really had a lifer at the position. Strack made the unusual choice to leave coaching to go into athletic administration (he later became Arizona's AD), Orr and Frieder left for more money elsewhere, and then Fisher of course was fired over the scandal.
Beilein should be able to easily set the record down the road. This year's team may well have another 20 wins in it.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:03 PM |
Great coach to take the record
Great coach to take the record
I thought that was odd as well.
I think we'll be proud to see Beilein achieve and own the record for years to come. He could be at Michigan 10+ more years.
This kid shows promise.
December 8th, 2012 at 3:50 PM |
For entertainment purposes
For entertainment purposes
I'd like to note that Sparty is losing to Loyola of Chicago late in 1st half.....ensue hilarity
December 8th, 2012 at 4:14 PM |
HALOL
HALOL
HALOL
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
December 8th, 2012 at 4:27 PM |
And
And
Eastern is beating Purdue...
"Pen cannot be put to paper and adequately describe what it means to be a Michigan Wolverine." - Desmond Howard
December 8th, 2012 at 5:01 PM |
Worried?
Worried?
I asked last week, after the announcers mentioned that he has never stayed at a school for more than 5 years, how long does he plan to stay? Can he ever hope for a team more fun to coach than this one?
December 8th, 2012 at 5:12 PM |
Nah, don't be worried.
Nah, don't be worried.
Beilein has said a few times that he is getting older, has grandkids, and his kids who have settled into Ann Arbor as a home. Kind of tired of bouncing around. As of now sounds like he doesn't plan on coaching anywhere else in his career, especially since the new renovations puts M pretty high up in desirable jobs. Except for the obvious historic powers, where would he go?
December 8th, 2012 at 5:12 PM |
He's said that he considers
He's said that he considers
He's said that he considers this his final career stop. He seems perfectly capable of going another 5-10 years.
December 8th, 2012 at 8:00 PM |
My townie buddy Chuck works across the street from Bay Harbor
My townie buddy Chuck works across the street from Bay Harbor
I guess Beilein just bought a house up there...I'd guess he's looking to retire a Michigan legend.
Omnes i facere est vincere
December 8th, 2012 at 7:56 PM |
The way coach Beilein
The way coach Beilein
has been recruiting recently, he stays till he leaves.
"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed" D C Coach Mattison
December 8th, 2012 at 8:17 PM |
I go back to the Johnny Orr
I go back to the Johnny Orr
I go back to the Johnny Orr days and Beilein is the best coach Michigan hoops has had in that time. Orr was a hoot of a guy and at times a great recruiter, but he wasn't the coach Beilein is. None of the rest even come close. Beilein does things the right way, is by all accounts a high character guy who brings in high character players, and now has built a talented team that's really fun to watch (for the most part). I hope they go far this season but regardless, I'm going to enjoy the ride. Go Blue!
December 8th, 2012 at 8:24 PM |
Also Interesting...
Also Interesting...
Michigan is now the third school at which John Beilein has won more than 100 games regardless of level, and the second Division I school.
As for when he would hit 200 wins, as someone speculated above, his Division I totals average out to about 20 wins a year or so (although it seems like we're looking at a few seasons where we best that consistently), but even assuming 20 and add conference tournament and at least a couple March Madness wins, I can see a situation with this team where we are looking at 200 wins inside the next four years potentially. It's fun to think about being able to win at that clip - it seems achievable with Beilein and where this team is headed.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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December 8th, 2012 at 11:53 PM |
He deserves his success. His
He deserves his success. His
He deserves his success. His early years here were rough. When he lost to Harvard and Amaker, there was talk that one of the two caoches we got from WVU should be let go, and it wasn't Rich Rod.
He did it all from the ground up. He had little talent on the roster, dreary facilities, and a program overshadowed by football that had seen its glory fade into the long ago past.
It was only a few years ago when we were all watching with intense excitement on Selection Sunday to see if the team could finally make the NCAA tournament. Now were talking about winning the whole thing. Amazing.
M'Dog
December 9th, 2012 at 12:19 AM |
Big win for this season and
Big win for this season and
Big win for this season and to show this team really is better than it was last year. Congrats to Beilein and hopefully he continues to build this program the right way and in the right direction.
December 9th, 2012 at 4:30 PM |
I doubt Beilein wouldn't
I doubt Beilein wouldn't
I doubt Beilein wouldn't leave UM at this point. Not only has he said as much, but if you think about it, where would he go? Very few programs would be an upgrade at this point. He has shown he can recruit to a big time university now, so probably only something on Tobacco Road could lure him away...and does he really want to/has a chance to replace Coach K or Roy Williams at this point in his career?
I don't think he would want anything to do with Kentucky, since it would be tough for someone to go in there after Cal and have something other than constant turnover of 4-5 freshmen.
UCLA has the history, but they are a tire fire.
Kansas? Maybe.
Otherwise, he's sitting in the top basketball conference in the country for now (and the conceivable future) and has his team in the top teir of the conference. I can't imagine he would bolt this job for Indiana (should Crean get a call from the NBA, for example).
All the arguably better jobs out there are unlikely to have a new coach any time soon and I can't believe Beilein would go someplace where he didn't have time to work his system. He's almost 60 so I imagine he would rather stay where his system is already working, with great facilities and support.
Every stop before this had a ceiling. UM has no ceiling for him.
Hopefully only goods things are still to come! Go Blue!
The Michigan difference...