You wrote that whole post on a phone? You are more hardcore than I.
i like 'em both
You wrote that whole post on a phone? You are more hardcore than I.
Personally, I think all fans should be fitted with shock collars that are calibrated to the amount of noise the wearer is making. 30 seconds of silence = a jolt to the neck. If the decrepit old bastards can't take it, give their tickets to people who are vocal.
One entertaining half-time activity would be to take an old geezer out of the stands and force him to try field goals. If he doesn't make it, an iPhone app lets the crowd give him a zap.
I'm telling you, you will change your tune when you get older. I embarass my 12 year old if I yell stuff and the mean older ladies in front of me don't like it if I scream, either. I clap and yell and stuff with everyone else, but everyone looks at you like you are cray cray if you yell something out of turn. Srsly. It just isn't the same as when you are 20.
If I get much older, I'll be dead since I'm 60.
I got news for you—it doesn't matter what you do when you're my age—young people either look right through you as if you aren't there, or they smile at you like you're their senile uncle.
Don, apparently this is some serious stuff, and this is no time to employ half-measures.
Show up late, don't show up at all, don't cheer, don't cheer loud enough, have blue hair, or are just an irritating drunken sorority girl, that's it, its the scrotum squeeze of death for you.
We get rid of the 85,000 or so deadbeat fans that plague the stadium and fill them with real Michigan Men who know how to attend and properly cheer the team, only then will the world be right.
Based on that view, I say reduce the student allotment by half, and require the lucky students who do get tickets to clean up the stadium after the game.
Everyone is bitching about students acting entitled. Well, yeah compared to every single non alum inside of Michigan Stadium THEY ARE ENTITLED. It is THEIR UNIVERSITY. They pay tuition, they go to class, they deal with everything on campus. Who cares if some drunk hillbilly from Fowlerville will show up 30 minutes earlier and stay longer. He will pay for his tickets and that is all he contributes to the university whereas students will be more likely to donate in the future and have a stake in the reputation of the school and alums.
Cry about the student section all you want. The BIG sucks so if someone wants to skip the Northwestern game in a snowstorm...let them. I agree it is pathetic to a degree but that is the way the world is today. Older generations didn't shoot up schools and bomb innocent people. The younger generation does for some reason. young people across the board are dumb.
Lower the student section in size if you want but that will screw over true student fans. Yes, the sorority girls will be let in BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LET IN. It is the way Michigan games have always been (from our perspective). GUESS WHAT?
STUDENTS PAY OVER $200 FOR STUDENT TICKETS!!! My cousin who goes to Alabama pays like $75. UM over charges the students to begin with so F DB they can do what they want. Hockey season tickets are $200???? WHAT?!?! Western games are free for students and they are better than us recently. The whole system needs reevaluating. I JUST BLEW UP AND WASTED YOUR TIME....SORRRY CAPPPPSSSSS! NEED MOAR SUBS!
Sorry OP, but the drunk sorority girl showed up to argue on her own behalf.
I think some Thorazine is more like it.
My friend/classmate at NU got the policy enacted where every student pays a student activities fee and in exchange all sporting events are free with student ID.
I do not advocate that for Michigan. Michigan does not have to do what other schools do for tickets.
is tied with the university budgets. Totally different thing. Michigan Athletic Department must find a way to generate revenue and profits.
Let's face it, 2007-2012 has been a relatively dark era for Michigan football.
Except for the whole winning a BCS bowl thing in 2011 and going undefeated at home two consecutive years. Next year's juniors, sophomores and freshmen will have never seen a home defeat (and almost zero home basketball losses on top of it). Kind of hard to feel bad for you guys at this point.
My only problem with the "drunk sorority girl" stereotype is the stereotyping of Greek life in general. I know this board is generally anti-Greek life, but that stereotype is just not accurate - as all stereotypes are not a good portrayal of groups.
There are plenty of undergrads not associated with Greek life who overdrink and don't make it to the games or only show up at half-time; the problem is not limited to drunk sorority girls or drunk fraternity guys. And there are sections of Greek life who comprise the most vocal portion of the student section. A lot of times they are the ones in the front row cheering loudest and celebrating with the players after the game.
The board is not only heavily anti-greek, but heavily anti-students in general. There are a lot of dbag alums here who love to hate younger generations.
This is quite the sound argument you're putting forth.
^ Exhibit A. King of the Dbag alums.
Hell of a burn.
Ah I see you've moved on to the next group of people to stereotype and make baseless assumptions about. Well done.
But hey, at least I'm now a "little man." Yesterday I was a "little boy." Movin' on up!
Go home OP, you're drunk
I got season tickets in 2008, always arrived before the team ran out, and never left until after the games were over. Yes, even Northwestern. That experience kinda broke me... I still show up early for games and stay late to games I'm excited about / think will be competitive... I showed up within minutes of the gates opening for UTLs, and nearly an hour early for Ohio and Nebraska in '11. I was early for Air Force, Michigan St. and Northwestern this year...
But after 2008 it's difficult to rustle up the enthusiasm to wake up super early, walk a couple miles to the stadium, and watch us level a floundering Illinios team or another MACrifice. But I'm also graduating, so I suppose I can't be part of the problem anymore.
I never watched college footbal until I became a freshman here at Michigan in 2008. In that year we won 3 games. I still wanted to get to every game early. I don't think its a richrod effect, but rather a growing culture of tailgating for as long as you can.
This is the old man in my talking, but it's 6-8 weekends a year, spread out during some of the nicer months in Michigan (at least when students are on campus). If you can't get to an "early" game by 11:30, then be prepared to sit away from the field. It's that easy. I know people want to rationalize instances when this isn't fair or how this will affect attendance, but there are enough students at the school to fill a couple thousand spaces. If you can't be one that week, deal with it.
But I take my M Football way too serious and never mixed football and alcohol when I was a student. It was never an issue to hang at the tailgate too long for me. Saturday's were about one thing and one thing only...the game. After the game was over there was plenty o time for gettin' your drunk on, but never a reason to be late to one of the main reasons I went to UM in the first place.
I hate how Anti Greek this board is. We get it, you want students to show
up on time. But sorry, getting hammered at massive parties in beautiful weather with beautiful girls as well as your best friends and fraternity brothers (something you will Only do about 20 times in your life) is more fun then going to the first quarter of the Illinois game. I have the next 40 years to be a punctual, responsible fan. Let me have my four years of being an idiot.
Or just stay at the great party longer and see 3/4ths of the game from row 70. It's not like you won't get a seat, and a decent one at that.
I get single game alumni assoc. seats from time to time, which are terrible. They're at the very top of the South end zone, mixed in with the opponent's fans. After the half, I usually go over and sit in the top of the student section. The seats are better, the crowd is more lively (and more Michigan), and you're near the band. They're still pretty good seats.
Now imagine sitting in them after your great pre-game party, and life is pretty sweet.
Where is Section1??