With all of the attention on the BCS snubs, and the "travesty" that the Sugar bowl apparently is thanks to Virginia Tech , I think it is time to build some positive energy towards our bowl opponent. Beat Ohio worked out well. How about some Beat Virginia.
I don't think "Beat Virginia" works as well as BEAT OHIO. Maybe use Beat the Hokies instead. But then that sounds like we're almost cheering against Hoke. Hell. Just win, baby.
I've lived and worked in Northern VA for ten years now and let me just say, I detest Hokie fans. Virginia fans not so much. They remind me of our fans in their pleasant demeanor. The problem with Virginia is they refer to themselves randomly as "Wahoos" which is beyond retarded. It's a cold fish... For real? Went to a UVA b ball game and almost every cheer was "Go Hoos" or "Go Wahoos." Just change the name already to Wahoos because not a single reference was made to Cavaliers all night.
I digress. Back to the Hokie fans. So at work, I'd say it is about a 50/50 split in terms of population. 50% are UVA grads, 50% are Tech grads. Yet from how arrogant and fanatic and geared out they are, you'd think Hokies outnumbered Wahoos 5 to 1. But seriously, Hokies and Wahoos... WTF? Cartoon names... Impossible to cheer for any team here, pro or college.
Beside that, what gets me is this sense of greatness they have. Sure Tech's been a decent program the last ten years, but on a national level? What, one Michael Vick led championship game loss ten years ago?
My concluding remark on Tech fans is they are the Sparty fans of the East coast. Like Sparty, their focus seems to rest entirely upon how they stack up athletically relative to their academically superior in-state rival - UVA. Like Sparty, as long as they are ahead of their in-state rival, then they are masters of all time, space and dimension, and ready to let everyone know about it. Unlike Sparty, they actually have been ahead of their rival for a while now.
We MUST defeat Sparty's East Coast doppleganger. We must and we will.
Went to a UVA b ball game and almost every cheer was "Go Hoos" or "Go Wahoos." Just change the name already to Wahoos because not a single reference was made to Cavaliers all night.
But that's not that uncommon. How many of our cheers contain the word "Wolverines"? Should we call ourselves the Blue, à la Stanford?
Also, I think Hoke is really turning the tide on the rivalry.
Just ask MGoUser MaizeAndBlueWahoo.
You rang? Actually, I already said a few posts down what jmblue said, except way less succinctly and all rambly-like.
You mean my double-comment would have been redundant even if I had only posted it once as intended? Oh, brother.
It's what happens when I don't choose the highest-up comment to reply to.
The problem with this is "Beat Virginia" just sounds like a Train song to me, but made much worse by domestic abuse.
HA! Laughing at my desk. Thanks for that.
or anything like that. If we do it for every team, it cheapens the effect when we say, "Beat Ohio." When we say, "Beat Ohio," I want all my hatred and passion to be communicated in those two words. I want it to be an event. If we say, "Beat Virginia," saying, "Beat Ohio," isn't special anymore.
Yeah, I totally agree with this. If we start doing it for every team we don't like, we'd have to say "Beat Michigan". I can't quite figure it out, but something seems off about that one.
let's just cheer 'beat Ohio' at the Sugar anyway ... I can never really get enough, heh
When one thinks this through, it is going to be embarrassing when we have to use the "Beat [Insert State, Qualifier Redacted]" every year, and then face those guys from East Lansing.
No. They are Virginia Tech. We have never played them and thus currently have no rivalry with them, and no reason to call them any other name than they would like to be called. If we call all schools by their state names, we might end up very confused when we play MSU.
Agree on the name thing, but you do not understand Gorgeous Bo, VT is the Sparty of the East Coast, except without the SpartyNo! We MUST beat them.
Va Tech bears no relation to MSU. It is an excellent engineering school with rabid but polite fans. UVA, on the other hand, has students who attend games and alums who attend games who are more polite than the Tech fans but not nearly as engaged in college athletics as Tech fans or Michigan fans. While there are some similarities between UVA and Michigan, from what I have seen in my nearly 40 years in Virginia, the Tech fans more closely resemble our fans than do the UVA fans. I have never heard of wanton destruction of property in Blacksburg after a Tech loss.
I agree. Living in the DC area with a lot of Penn State alums as well, I think PSU and VT fans are very similar for some reason. I wouldn't lump in VT fans with MSU fans. VT and Michigan are similar, but sports means so much more to Michigan fans, it is hard to compare the two w/ respect to athletic engagement which is a big part of the student/alum experience.
This slogan may be driven by Labbat Blue. Not sayin', just sayin'.
I like the sentiment. Let's get a new rallying cry though.
Hoke the smokies?
Hoke The Hokies?
Out Hoke the Hokies.
Hoke the Smokies is win. All others so far fail.
How about: Just win the right way, baby (unlike Ohio)?
This game is not as important as the Ohio game, but after hearing the national media jump all over this matchup, particularly VaTech, I really don't want to lose this game. I liked the matchup at first, now I wish it would have been Boise.
Although VT will definitely have plenty of reason to get up and play well in this game. Everyone has been ragging on them for being in this game, losing to Clemson in blowout fashion..twice, having a weak schedule, losing big games and bowl games. We all know that Beamer and Foster are not inept coaches, and with a month of prep, I think they'll come to play. I just hope that the Michigan players also feel like 132 still has something to prove.
whenever I hear "Virginia", I just want to say "vagina".
I know it's immature, but I can't help but think "Vagina Tech".
I apologize in advance . . . .
I have been hoping for years that Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech combine their teams and call it the "Virginia and Georgia Co-Techs."
I have no qualms with VT. Therefore i will not call them Virginia.
I have a hundred thousand bazillion qualms with VT, therefore I too will not call them Virginia. It is respectfully requested that this nonsense be dead and buried.
Concur. VT fans are brutal. But UVA calling themselves "Wahoos" is equally offensive. It's a random cold fish fergodsake. It originated as a derisive remark by Washington & Lee fans about UVA cheers back in the dark ages of colleage ball, and somehow, UVA embraced the name like it was a good idea. "YEAH! COLD FISH! WAHOO! WE LOVE IT!"
Why does it piss me off? Becaues I hate VTech fans around here, and WANT to root for UVA, but just can't get past the retarded adoption of a cold fish as their nickname. "Go Hoos!" /cringe
HOKE THE SMOKIES!
Lemme ease your mind a little bit. I think you've got the UVA-VT relationship down pretty well (I've thought of it as what U-M/MSU would look like if MSU were actually better at football, and it's been four years so the similarities are beginning to appear) so lemme tell you about the fish: it's just a coincidence. The idea that "Wahoos" are a fish that drink twice their own weight every day and so do UVA students is a reverse etymology, kind of like how "fuck" doesn't really stand for "Fornicating Under Consent of the King."
You've got the etymology of "Wahoos" more or less right, though, so just forget about the fish. It's easy. I do. Except for when I cringe when some dumbass on TV talks about the fish story like it's the true one. Besides, wahoos are delicious - I've had one freshly caught - and a great game fish, and nobody seems to think that "Florida Marlins" is a bad name.
"Go Cavs" just doesn't have the ring to it. I mean, blue is just a color, right? One that at least half the teams in the country use. But Go Blue sounds a lot better than Go Wolves. At least there's a pretty strong Cavalier element to UVA's theme and game days. If you didn't know Michigan was the Wolverines, you could go to a whole football game, leave, and still not know. I happen to really like that UVA is the only team in the country with two interchangeable nicknames.
I pretty much agree with all of you guys. I guess my intentions were'nt so much to call Virginia Tech, Virginia from now on. More so the sentiment that we are not happy with the season yet, there is still a big game to play,
That sounds like some type of electronic music genre.
Beat the Virginia Tech Hokies?
It's actually a compliment to VT to call them Tech as if no explanation was needed. The school that's earned the right to be called just Tech is Georgia Tech (more tradition, better research and academics - not that VT is terrible in any of these things.)
I've been told that they hate to be referred to as "VaTech" though.
It's bizarre to refer to any school as Tech or State outside of their region b/c it's confusing. It depends on geography. In the DC area, if you tell someone you went to Tech, they're gonna assume it's Virginia Tech. Similar to "State" in Michigan. And nobody calls Virginia Tech VT or VaTech, and the abbreviation, VPI, hardly anyone uses, either.
Heck this is even the case with some abbreviations. When I was visiting family in Georgia, when I told them I went to UM, they assumed I meant Miami(YTM).
Even though their civilian band (their TAMU-style cadet corps has a band, and they often go to games) has it written on the backs of their idiot uniforms.
What about Texas Tech? Louisiana Tech? I'd hazard any Polytechnic Institute or school of Fashion and Design would also have a beef with Va or Ga hording "Tech."
Beat Virginia doesn't work because Virginia is UVa, not Virginia Tech. Very very different. UVa even sells car stickers that are"Virginia" while all things Virginia Tech are VT. Having lived in Virginia it makes a very big difference.
Not that I agree with this "beat Virginia" nonsense either, but you do also realize that Ohio is a school seperate from osu, yet that didn't stop us from calling the buckeyes "Ohio." In other words, I agree with not calling VaTech Virginia, but not b/c of your logic. I think you've completely missed the boat on what we've been calling OSU over the past few months...
Unfortunatley, you jump to incorrect conclusions. I grew up in Ohio, so YES I know that Ohio is different from OSU. The difference is OhioU, as everyone from Ohio calls it, has little to no presence in the state. It is dominated by OSU, so much so that people wear OSU gear to the OhioU football games. If VT people see us saying beat Virginia, they will just laugh and think we are idiots. It won't bother them in the least, infact they may relish it because they have been the king of football in the state of Virginia for ages. I can't remember the last time UVA beat VT. VT has huge presence in the state of Virginia in general. The best part of saying Beat Ohio is that is means something (going back to Woody and TSUN) and it pisses OSU people off. It does not carry the same weight with VT, so there is no point and we just look stupid.
Historically significant cause Woody wouldn't use "Michigan." But in addition, they do Script Ohio, not Script Ohio State and band's drums have Ohio on them.
And the play in Ohio Stadium. And they do an O-H-I-O cheer as well as OH-IO.
In addition to your points Ohio's school song is "Carmen Ohio", not "Carmen Ohio State".
In addition to your points Ohio's school song is "Carmen Ohio", not "Carmen Ohio State".
Actually call it OU, not OhioU.
Yes, I never heard anyone call in OhioU, it was always OU (as in two letters not "ewww" or whatever the phonetic pronunciation of "ou" would be)
means anything .... JUST WIN THE GAME ..... GO BLUE !!!
so if we play West Virginia, we're going to say Beat West? This Beat Ohio thing is going a bit too far.
I agree. It's a way to disrespect a hated rival who had whooped our asses for almost a decade straight. It was actually sincere for some people. It carries none of that significance for this bowl game.
Hoke the Hokies!
I Just like the sound of it.
Hokies gonna Hoke
Good thread idea. Bad thread title
with proper names for nonrivals, then 'beat Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University' is clearly the battle cry that is going to rally our boys to victory.
It captures their ridiculous full name, and makes fun of the fact that they are jorts wearing rednecks. Additional Bonus: Sounds like a girl's name.
That phrase belies contempt, I have nothing but respect for V Tech other than their weak resume this year.
That's easy to cure: all you have to do is meet a few. They watch one game a week, think they are the only school in the country with any traditions, and act like college football started in 1995. A clueless, infuriating bunch.
Beat VPI? Sufficiently old school.
1 Hoke > 100 Hokies
my votes for "Hoke the Hokies"
"Let's Go Blue!"
Does that work? Works for me.
That's what I called them when I lived in Virginia.
can't see much point in trying to disparage Virginia Tech - let's stay classy with them
Ohio is a rival team, don't diminish The Game by equating it with our upcoming bowl game
What the heck, as long as we are shortening things.
This comment needs more upvotes.
not dilute the unique rivalry we have Ohio State by applying the same rhetorical strategy we have with them with a team we have never played.
That UVA loss is going to hurt our RPI I fear.
I feel ya there brother. It's like as soon as THJ picked up those early fouls you start thinking to yourself, don't slip away...don't slip away.
Beat East Virginia?
Nothing good can come from a buzzed brain on Mgo at 3:30 AM.
LOL....not true. But it is pretty much a hit-or-miss proposition. Not much middle ground.
The final 'save' process for this one essentially came down to...aww, fuck it, enter.
No, no, NO.
Virginia Tech is not OSU. And the actual "Virginia" (UVa) is an academic peer deserving our respect.
This little meme does not work for this situation. At all.
is bad and you should feel bad.