BBrown: Teryn Savage Update
Since the "Names to Watch" article I posted about Mr. Savage spun ridiculously out of control, I thought I'd try to forget about that and relay some actual information. After all of the commenting and counter-commenting tonight, Teryn himself posted on the board to say that it's really no big deal, he's not offended and his opinion on Michigan has not changed. He also told me that he is talking to Coach Hecklinski tomorrow about setting up his visit, possibly for the Minnesota game.
September 25th, 2013 at 1:54 PM ^
To be fair, a Hello post is very different than an interview with an undecided 15 year old. Just saying.
September 25th, 2013 at 2:31 PM ^
...are generally written well in advanced based on good feelings that Ace, et. al., have had during their interactions with the respective recruit? Just saying......
My point is that the fanatic demand for recruiting information is not going away, regardless of whether or not MGoblog exists. Attacking the contributors of this site, because you don't agree with all of the tactics prevalent within the recruiting manifestation is asinine. Especially since, based on everything that I have seen, the guys on this site have been nothing but appropriate in how they've contacted and interacted with these young men.
September 25th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^
I am trying to have a balanced view point here, one that is aware of both the fanatic demand for recruiting info and respects the concerns of parents or general observers who believe the industry is grimey. I am one who enjoys the recruiting info and will keep following it, but I admit it is a creepy/grimey industry. I do not attack those involved, but simply saying, thats the way it is, deal with it, is a bit cynical, even for me. By that rational, Michigan should cheat just like SEC schools...since thats how it is and what you need to do to win championships apparently. I dont think this is something that should just be swept under the rug because it is a difficult conversation to have and forces contributors and followers of this blog to question both the merits of the industry and our role in it.
September 25th, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^
The basis of the concern is valid.... however, these aren't strangers chatting up your son or daughter while they are walking home from school. These are guys that are known amongst recruits and their parents to be recruiting analysts.
And summarizing my opinion as me saying that we should "just deal with it" is terribly near sighted. Having a problem with the big picture behind the recruiting phenomenon is fine.... but expecting MGoblog to not participate is unrealistic, especially since recruiting information is arguably the lifeblood of the blog's survival and what drove a good portion of us to the blog in the first place. An alternative to not participating is to be respectful and appropriate when communicating with the kids and nothing that I have seen tells me this isn't what is happening.
September 25th, 2013 at 3:53 PM ^
we differ that much in view. I do think though that the blog is big enough to have it's own standards. I agree that those sourcing the information for the blog seem respected and don't come off as creepers. But, in fairness, boosters, AAU coaches/"agents", and family "friends" are often respected and not strangers of said recruits, and that often doesnt turn out well. This aspect, realistically, can't be controlled. However, the blog can have some standards for the ages of recruits it will contact (as arbitrary as this may be), and who they need to go through first (parents, coaches, etc). Just because Rivals or Scout does something, doesnt mean this blog needs to - I think this is more of a niche site, being UM focused, and perhaps doesnt need to follow their status quo.
September 25th, 2013 at 6:06 PM ^
...that my original comment was a response to CRex's post and not yours.
September 24th, 2013 at 10:41 PM ^
...doesn't
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September 25th, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^
I'm staying as far away from all these threads as possible but had to at least drop in and say; I've always enjoyed your addition to this blog MGoShoe. Thank you.
September 25th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
...nice words. I'll try to continue to meet your expectations.
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September 24th, 2013 at 10:47 PM ^
Great news. Thanks Brandon.
September 24th, 2013 at 10:51 PM ^
Thank you. This is great on a night when there hasn't been much, "great".
September 24th, 2013 at 11:01 PM ^
lulz why doesn't this dude just get an extended roller?
September 25th, 2013 at 12:04 AM ^
he's applying joint compound to drywall. Having just spent the last month on an extension ladder painting my house, this photo gave me the willies and made me laugh at the same time.
September 24th, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^
very glad to hear
go blue
September 24th, 2013 at 10:55 PM ^
It did seem that too much was being inferred from that tweet.
September 25th, 2013 at 1:16 AM ^
He did say in his post that at first he was really insulted but changed his mind after reading the respect thread.
September 24th, 2013 at 11:03 PM ^
Is this trolling for clicks night? Dude, putting up the update is great, but why allow comments? You HAD to know it wouldn't go well.
September 24th, 2013 at 11:48 PM ^
September 25th, 2013 at 3:47 AM ^
I don't really see why you put this post up. It won't change how people feel on the "stop talking to 15 year olds without their parents permission" tangent (and actually more likely to get them riled up in this post as well) that the other thread got off on and it won't change the reactions to the "new policy" that Brian declared.
That being said, I am happy he is not offended.
September 25th, 2013 at 8:19 AM ^
his post contained some actual recruiting news. Correct me if I'm wrong, but his job on this site is to post recruiting news.
September 25th, 2013 at 8:23 AM ^
September 25th, 2013 at 8:40 AM ^
I personally am not a fan of reports going around on Twitter and saying "follow me back" because it seems like begging to me. That being said, if the kid falls into the trap of letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry from the internet interview him, then he'll likely soon learn how much of a burden it can be. At that point he can continue giving interviews, or he can stop. I've seen kids do both. There are some kids who fall off the recruiting radar as they get ired of the process.
I also think some of these kids work on playing football well, attending camps, etc. for the notoriety. They like being interviewed. They like having their pictures plastered all over the internet. It's affirmation of their talent and hard work. They might not all make it to the NFL and get rich, but the "fame" is perhaps half the fun. For all we know, Teryn Savage is going to be a fairly highly touted recruit, and then he's going to fall to the bottom of the depth chart or get injured or just be mediocre (or, of course, he'll be great) and perhaps high school will be the highlight of his athletic life.
September 25th, 2013 at 1:46 PM ^
I e-gree to a certain extent, however...
The reporters, in this instance, are adults.
The 15-16 year olds are kids.
Why are we putting the onus on the kids when have supposedly have adults in the room.
That seems like an abdication of responsibility, and it's one I'm not comfortable with.
I understand interviewing 15 and 16 year olds is looked upon as being a necessary evil in the context of obtaining recruiting information.
However, twitter spamming and facebook stalking are not.
September 25th, 2013 at 1:53 PM ^
Sorry to double post but I feel like this point deserves it's own post...
Also, imagine if MGoBlog covered women's sports and women's high school recruiting.
How would most users feel about an adult male contacting 15 and 16 year old girls on Twitter, writing "follow me....follow me," and facebook stalking them for information, sans parental consent?
Followed by slapping their picture up all over the internet?
Just something to think about.
September 25th, 2013 at 2:18 PM ^
Maybe I'm sexist or stupid, but I think that's a whole different ball game. [I think] women are more sexually exploited, at least in American culture, so that would and should be a bigger concern. There are going to be negative things that would happen in either situation, but the vast majority of men can be interested in boys' high school sports without it being sexually awkward. I do not think the same could be said for girls' sports, where softball players, volleyball players, etc. are objectified and coveted for their looks.
September 25th, 2013 at 2:42 PM ^
I just want to throw it out there that talking to a recruit on a message board or tweeting at him, especially with "GoBlue" could be considered a secondary violation under NCAA contact rules. I say this because we had a recruit visiting the 11W forums and getting lots of upvotes and comments and it raised a call from the compliance office. Just something to keep in mind, I know there is a fine line.
September 25th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
The greatest value out of reading this thread is the +1 I just acquired from hitting save.
Might I remind everyone it was three short years ago we were discussing the entrails of three of the longest seasons anyone with a heartbeat can recall.
This must be how the chocolate cake tastes if grandma didn’t first wash her hands after mucking out the horse stall.