he's dead to me now. just like dee hart and jake fisher.
BBrown: Predicting The Hand Decision
and treadwell. and garnett. and...
So no Malik McDowell either?
Unfortunately, McDowell is behaving in a very similar fashion. Granted he is also on the quiet side, but not too long ago he'd respond back to me very punctually and regularly. He doesn't do that anymore.
Well. Here's to hoping your theory is bullshit.
Your post inadvertently sums up the current M situation perfectly:
"...BUT WHY IS THE RUM GONE?"
But let's s'pose The Honorable Sparrow instead says "...but why is the run gone?" Now that would sum it up beautifully.
Noted. Will mark him down as "he gone" then.
...maybe they just don't...like...you?
Not sure if reassuring.
is in that same post, you said McDowell was doing the same thing. . . it just keeps getting better doesn't it?
WTF is this?
So BB created a post of "I knew it all along guys"? Awesome. Internet pat on the back. He could have least given us his honest opinion on why he went quiet.
I think you need to read it again. I was saying that I had a feeling, but I was completely wrong....not sure how I'm patting myself on the back with that explanation.
No one who covers or follows recruiting is ever going to get them ALL right, that's obvious, but really this observation I've made has been pretty accurate so far. I just didn't want to believe it with Hand.
So what's the point of this post? To say you were wrong but you'll not let your heart get in the way the next time? That's what I'm not getting? It adds nothing to the board.
Yeah ok clown, Brandon is just taking up wayyy too much e-space in the precious mgoboard. Meanwhile,your posts are just critical.
The irony in his response to my post is beautiful.
but it's not a whole fucking new thread. That's the point. This whole thread you started was dumb - "Well I was right about my theory with kids talking to me, but I didn't listen to my theory this time around. I'll do better next time guys."
And you still haven't given your thoughts as to why he went quiet and chose Bama, which would have been a 100% better topic to discuss.
Edit: I'd like to say that I appreciate what BB does. And he has been right in the past (most of the time). This downward sipral of MGoBlog is sickening though and threads like this don't add anything. Look how many "appreciation" threads there are. Hell, there is an "appreciation of the Appreciation Appreciation thread) there.
He is basically apologizing for getting the call wrong and explaining why he did and how he will be better in the future. I'm sorry that this material isn't good enough but you can leave this thread or even the sight if it isn't.
99% of people here understand your post and it makes sense. There will always be buttholes like SSB so what can you do.
Also tough as well since everyone else had him coming here as well. To me, that's what hurts the most. At least with others that we "lost" it felt like it was truly 50/50 and we just ended up on the wrong side of it. This time it felt like it was 90/10.
How dare a recruiting analyst analyze recruits! I hope you learned your lesson Brandon.
He wrote a post (last week?) about how he has noticed the trend of how recruits interact with him vs. if they end up at Michigan.
It makes sense. A kid who think he is going to M is going to talk to M reporters more, and other schools less so they don't get anyone's hopes up. And will stop talking to M reporters if they don't think they are going to come here.
BBrown is just using this recruitment and Hand's decision to provide a further example to his theory.
The whole "doesn't add anything to the board" thing is just way off base. He is MGoBlog's recruiting reporter. He wants to be able to give us better insight on recruits and where they might end up. And is basically stating he needs to not let his own fandom get in the way.
That is it, explained perfectly. Thanks mgobaran.
Yeah.......I strongly disagree with you. I appreciate Brandon's post and find value in it. So next time, just feel free not to read.
^^^^THIS is why we need moderation back! #primeEXAMPLE
a mea culpa--I was technically wrong (with my heart)--but believe me I was right (in my head)--and my methodology, which, as I understand it is: good if they talk with me and bad if they don't. I'm still a little creeped out that you call them at all--and certainly would be if I was on the receiving end.
If you thinking recruiting is creepy then don't follow it.
Not disagreeing with your point just the way you made it- coaches calling recruits is a necessary part of CFB, age shouldn't matter. Following recruiting is totally unnecessary.
between a coach or someone officially representing a college (regardless of age) contacting a recruit (the very definition of recruiting) and "some guy" doing the same thing, then I suspect you don't know how it is supposed to work. He ain't a coach, an official recruiter, a sportswriter or even a sports blogger. If he has, in fact, been "hired" by Brian to do so on behalf of MGoBlog, I stand partially corrected--though I question the decision to do so, and he fails the journalistic smell test if he lets his heart control his head--it is the latter he would presumably be hired to do. Frankly, I think almost all of his postings are his "feelings" based upon how a recruit responds to him--facts, not so much. And, who puts their effing name in the title of their post?
Agree with SS Blue.
Look, man all due respect - which not sure much is due , but we just lost out on the #1 recruit in the country to who else but that team that wins funcking everything anyway and would have been just fine without Hand.
Look man the last time we were good was in 2006 . Bo died. The game happened. We fucked about for a bit and hired RR which went poorly. We flung the baby out with the bathwater and tried to hire a few different people before landing on a coach (heart of gold), but without a coaching record of great success. He has never coached in a BCS game.
Now this coach looks to be backsliding. Hell I was a completely different person with completely different friends in a completely different state the last time Michigan was even regarded as "good." and that year we didn't win shit.
So you want some sort of "ahh gee, guy. It's ok you went with EVERYONE who gets paid to do whatever it is you do and think Hand would chose Michigan. You'll do better next time." Well save it. I can only speak for myself, but I'm tired, man. I'm tired of watching this team fuck about on a football field and end up being terrible with all the talent in the world.
Just keep doing what you're doing, but for the love of god dont apologize for it. It's hard to draw sympathy from a group who have just had their collective junk smashed into tiny bits.
Welcome back, you can't quit us.
over Hand, because he WANTS TO BE HERE
Never change. Never, change.
don't sweat it. . . I appreciate your work..
Is why we can't have nice things.
Thanks Coach B. Let us know if Peppers stops returning your calls. It would be good to know in advance - partially sarcastic before people lambast me. ;)
Serious question - have you had ongoing conversation with Malik M? If so do you see a change in those conversations the past month or two? I am getting a Treadwell feeling here. At this point my hope is its not OSU or MSU more than it is Michigan...which is sort of sad, that its come to this...
Well, Jabrill doesn't return my calls and I'm worried.
Dude don't beat yourself up for getting it wrong. A large majority got it wrong along with you.
Would've been awesome if he played here, but it wasn't the best place for him.
On to the next one, go blue.
I know MOST got it wrong, in fact, it was a large majority. I just feel like the writing was on the wall for me but I couldn't get past my own fandom.
You allow your fandom to take impressions from others and see a bright side, and then that gets translated into your opinions and then we read it and make our own opinions based also in part on how other people are reacting to your thoughts.
...that he would wind up there?
Wish him luck...seems like a good kid. Not sure if I buy the engineering school thing...since we have one of the best...but if I were a talented high school kid with dreams of playing in the NFL, I would go to the place with the track record to get me there.
I have never had a good feeling about McDowel from what I have read (or not read)...and your comments do not give me any hope there. :(
what is it that you do that puts you in a position to be contacting these kids? Honestly, I don't know...maybe I’ve missed something. Or, maybe you shouldn't be reaching out to these kids and eventually they figure out that responding to your inquiries is pointless.
Are you a recruiting analyst? Or, do you do this for a hobby. I'm not trying to be rude, but seriously, who are you and what is your profession?
Brian hired me to be the part-time recruiting reporter.
I really didn't know that...Makes sense now.
as recruiting reporter, my serious question to you is why on earth would Michigan be in the running for a very high level recruit right now? Is somehow the national consensus something other than "Michigan is a tire fire." Do you think Pepper's comittment is solid?
You are overreacting. Yes, the last two games sucked, but they're two games.
Tennesee is getting a great class, they stink. Ole Miss stunk a couple years ago and got a mega class. Sometimes it's about selling the possibility of success, playing time, etc.
The key is showing improvement and unfortunetly Michigan isn't doing that right now.
I don't know that you even need to "show improvement." You just have to convince recruits that the team will be good when they're there. We have a very young team, so it's not impossible to sell a bright future.
Which one is worse? Not getting Hand or Messi's injury.
Well, Hand is an 18 year old who may or may not end up being great. Messi is one of the greatest to ever play the game, is 25, and the only real center forward on Barcelona.
Also I have a dog named "Messi."
for dong punches
Hindsight is 50/50
not sure if serious.
"You're either right or you're not'
I am not serious.
Was a reference to Parks & Rec.
Man, November hasn't been the worst month ever. OctoNovember has been the worst month ever.
We're talking about teenagers' choices for college. You'll be right sometimes. You'll be wrong sometimes. Some guys will talk to you but go elsewhere. Some guys won't talk to you but will go to Michigan.
So, assuming I'm understanding this right, we lost out on Hand because you couldn't get him on the phone? This is all your fault.
Which Brandon? Or both?
Fully expect MM to end up in the south or at MSU.....at this point this program is a tire fire. No getting around that at all.
Have to hope the light goes on in 2014 for A LOT of kids in this program or this recruiting won't mean crap.
Our OFFENSE is a tire fire...the defense is actually quite good. Take away the poor situations they've been put in, plus the whole ON THE FIELD ALL DAY thing, and I'd say they're borderline excellent.
Guys still want to play for Greg Mattison.
Our D has definitely had to deal with poor field position in a lot of games, but it hasn't really been on the field that much. Our opponents' average time of possession is 27:32. In our worst defensive performance of the year, Indiana, our D was on the field for 21:26.
Mattison is solid, but the D hasn't exactly been what we expected either. Giving up 34 points a game over the last 4. When's the last time Bama did that over a 4 game stretch?
Shorter Brandon Brown: "I just did not execute."
Do you know if he recently responded/chatted to any Alabama recruiting dooods? Would be interesting to know.
I honestly think he was pretty quiet with everyone recently so again, it's not a perfect formula. I'm just going by the communication he and I have had.
and update your text and phone records on a weekly basis for entry into my database, which will graphically show and statistically determine the probabilty of an 18 year old's decisions about football
Thanks Obama/Borges! /s
If there's one thing being a Michigan fan has taught me, it's this: never, never, NEVER predict/assume what you want to happen is going to happen.
Embrace the self-hate. Embrace the darkness. Only by becoming its master can you hope to survive.
It happens. You've done more than most of us when it comes to recruiting and without appearing like a balding 40 year old guy in his boxers drooling over Youtube clips.
So you stopped corresponding with him before the games really went downhill. I'll take that as our current team state had no bearing on his decision. It's reassuring but I don't feel any better at all.
I believe our last communication was maybe mid-late October. Somewhere in there.
Brandon Brown, you just don't help yourself.
First off, I would have waited a day before posting this. I don't think it's something people want to hear about right now. Secondly, you don't come out and say you were wrong even though you were completely wrong. You say oh I was exactly right, but because it's Michigan I picked them.
I get what you are saying, but your post bastardizes the point that you should have actually listened to your own method rather than your Michigan fandom.
I totally agree with what you are saying....which is why I already said it. Every Michigan recruiting guy got it wrong.
When I posted the original "Predicting Commitments" topic, that got blasted too. I was just trying to make a point that i SHOULD have followed my own method, as you called it. Instead I let other influences (80+ predictions, early impressions from Hand himself, current impressions from his coach, public perception) sway my belief.
Sometimes there is just no winning. Message boards will be message boards.
The reason you can't win is because you're not TomVH.
This message board is as opposed to new things as Al Borges' playbook.
Oh wait, I have more.
This message board is as opposed to new things as...
the O-Lines willingness to keep DG upright.
the team is to gaining rushing yards.
the coaches are to substance in the pressers
the offenses ability to get the ball to Dileo
Funk's ability to teach anything
Fred Jackson having a realistic view on what a RB's abilities truely are
You're not realizing it's the way you presented the information that screwed it up rather than the actual content. If it makes you feel any better I didn't knock you in the original Predicting Commitments topic....at least I don't think I did. :)
No it is the content. This whole theory is all about him and how teenagers respond to his twitter/text messages. Where's the perspective? Isn't he the professional?
It's a dark day and everyone is feeling shitty. Don't beat yourself up, take a lessons learned and keep doing your best. Let not it happen again though or this board will make sure your on the train with Al. He should be one of the targets of today's venom.
I used to be a fun-loving Wolverine fan. Then I started visiting this website. I started noticing bad things. Then I started following recruiting. Now I hate Michigan, myself, and all of you too.
Go back to your video game, this will blow over soon enough
This is resonating with me.
It's hard to go against guys like my boys here at MGoBlog, Tom, Lorenz, Brewster, Shurburtt, Wiltfong, and other respected dudes, even if I have gotten solid information on my own.
No one expects you to be right all (or most) of the time. We just want you to pass along the info (and the source) when you hear it. That's the most we can ask for.
Besides, if you were right most of the time, we'd take you on the next flight to Vegas and throw around some money.
Take that next step. Not trying to toot my own horn, and you already knew this, but as I suggested in the last post, contact the other recruiting analsyts and find out if they're talking with the recruit in question.
I'd be very interested to know if McDowell is talking to Sparty's recruiting guys. They may not tell you, and some analysts for some teams may lie like obama or misdirect, but over time you can build a network of people you trust. You can tell them and they can tell you. That multiplies the power of your theory (if correct).
There will be many dead after I'm done with Call of Duty tonight. The mic is getting turned on and everyone I play again will feel my wrath. They will know my pain. They will be shot, stabbed, and blown to fucking bits. God damn recruiting BS.
Relax... someone needs some chamomile tea and a warm bubble bath asap!!
Agreed. Time to do some trolololol-ing on snipers with a peanut butter and jelly C4 sammich.
Consider your ass sniped before you get to me.
Haha jk I don't play but if I did I would be a sniper and my friends and I argue about what is best: Sniping vs. Crazy Insane Run Around Shooting Everything Dude - if there was no inbetween that you could choose. Anyways, TGFJ (Thank Goodness For Jabrill)!
I need to see more puppies, people getting kicked in the nuts, ect. People on here are clever and it seems to be the only thing to cheer me up for how the last few weeks has been. Please someone do this!
I like TomVH better... No offense...
He did an excellent job, was here for a lot longer, and had more time to devote to the site. I hope to keep doing what I'm doing and get to a level like he was at. Obviously he was doing something right as ESPN snatched him up.
While you have a pretty direct barometer, I find that sometimes reading subtle clues can also predict and I was pessimistic. (To be fair, I work in a business where I have to read people's hidden motives and unspoken thoughts to predict how they will behave on a regular basis).
While I, too, was hoping Hand would Go Blue my sense was Alabama would be the choice because of a few subtle things he and his camp said/did in the last week.
* Canzior posted a firsthand account of traveling with Da'Shawn to UM and noted that he didn't wear any UM gear at the game, because that was his thing. I noticed in his Washington Post series after his 'Bama visit he was on camera wearing Alabama gear. I'd never seen him wearing anything UM. Ever.
* In an interview on First and 17 this week he said he hoped his decision shocks people and they're happy. Considering UM was the prediction by most, it wouldn't be shocking to pick the Wolverines. it was also kind of the way he said it where he kind of caught himself and didn't say anymore.
* Then yesterday, Sam Webb spoke to Da'Shawn's father and he had a quote that kind of back pedaled on academics. I felt like you're only saying that to the press in the 11th hour, if you know you're son is gonna get some backlash after stressing academics was such a big part, then picking the least prestigious of the three.
It's nothing concrete, but just reading the tea leaves gave me a sense he was going to the Tide.
I have to admit, seeing him in the Bama jacket was something he said he wouldn't do. That didn't sit well with me either.
Thanks Brandon for the heads up. Next time don't keep these things to yourself. A lot of us get excited about recruiting, especially when it's for a kid on Hand's level. Next time I'd kind of like to know what's really going on rather than just what some writers think I want to hear.
Next time, let us know what's happening, thanks for the heads up on Malik McDowell maybe cooling. Rather know the truth than endure another gut shot like today was.
We have the Rivals 18th ranked class. 18th? Maybe all this , "well, Hoke is a great recruiter at least" talk will die down. The results on the field and running a clean program are the only thing that matters.
I promise I wasn't keeping it to myself, haha. I was genuinely convinced that he was going to pick Michigan even though there was a very small sign he might choose Bama. These are just some I can think of that aren't directly related to the football program because well, those are pretty obvious at Alabama.
Reasons to think Michigan: My first interview with him, contact with his coach, public adoration for Dr. Rosentraub, relationships with M recruits, academics, Michigan expert predictions, "insider" feelings from other commits.
Reasons to think Alabama: He stopped communicating with me (a Michigan specific recruiting guy)
That's pretty much it. I don't know much about his recruitment from an Alabama standpoint, but that was my method of thinking.
You said earlier in the thread that you hoped to be as good as Tom at some point. Here is a tip for you. Start writing more professionally.
"I promise I wasn't keeping it to myself, haha."
You do this way too much. I expect better writing from a high school newspaper, and generally it is better than that.
Also, as you are a paid member of the staff, why are you posting threads on the board instead of on the front page?
That was a personal response to someone's comment on the forum board, I don't write like that on the front page besides, this isn't CNN man. It's a blog, and a blog that just had a picture of all the staffers faces photoshopped onto a scene from Monty Python, and says things like Staee, and Urbz, and Uniformz, and BWAHAHAHA, and compares things to smelly possums.Get a grip dude and don't take stuff so serious, HAHA.
Also, maybe Brian asked me to post things to the forum as often as possible when it pertains to recruiting? I didn't know there were so many people here that know how and what I do better than I do. It's pretty impressive.
You're right, it is a blog. A blog where I think we've all come to expect a certain level of writing. And if you're trying to be as good as a guy like Tom, then you should probably try to write as well as he did.
All of those things you referenced are funny, and amazingly didn't need a juvenile writing crutch for people to know they were funny. I would suggest sticking to just reporting facts if you aren't naturally funny.
But hey, what do I know? I'm just a guy who thinks spamming kids on twitter is creepy.
No, you're just a pompous, pedantic fucking jackass.
I might be pompous and a jackass, but I am definitely not a pedant. And I'm also not the only person on this board who has voiced the opinion that the way this guy goes about contacting high school kids isn't completely proper. I've even provided examples of it violating policy at some high schools.
Any more personal attacks you'd like to sling my way?
Do you think missing on Hand allows us to save a scholarship for KLS at DE for 2015? I know we offered Williams, but if he doesn't come for some reason do you think the coaches do that?
Based on the fact that the coaches waited less than an hour to offer Williams today after missing out on Hand it's pretty clear they'd like a DE in the 2014 class.
I kind of figured that. Just a little curious. Thanks for the quick response.
You'd have to check with all the other Michigan recruiting analysts, from Sam Webb to TomVH to etc. and see if he stopped talking to them, too. If he stopped talking to all Michigan guys, then there might be something to glean from that. If he just stopped talking to you, it probably has nothing to do with Michigan, and maybe he just doesn't like you. Because if he stopped talking to you but none of the other recruiting analysts, I don't think it has much to do with his feelings on committing to Michigan.
I'm not trying to be self-important as someone else said, I really don't have an ego, choose to believe me or not.
Lorenz, Tom, Tim, Sam...those guys work for 247, ESPN, Rivals, Free Press and WTKA respectively. Those are just a few worth mentioning. Recruits will talk to those guys largely because of their respective employers and the networking that has been created. I work for a Michigan-centric, lesser-known, privately owned website. The fact that recruits stop talking to me I think might mean it's a little more Michigan specific. Granted Lorenz and Tim are working for the Michigan branches, it's still 247 and Rivals, nationally renowned sites.
Again this whole thing is just a theory. Very few people got Hand right today. It's just something I've noticed and thought I'd share.
Would have made the same post if he committed today and said "You know I publically predicted Michigan, but in my gut I really thought he was going elsewhere because I hadn't heard from him. Boy, glad I was wrong."? Because, if not...
Oh and BB I know who you are because I followed you at MBlock and I know you know your stuff even though you aren't the "star" that Lorenz, TVH, Sam Webb, etc. are yet. I enjoy reading your stuff and keep it up. Most everyone was wrong on this one. Whoever is on here giving you grief need to just relax. So we lost Hand. I was upset at first too. But it's been 3 hours now, its time to move on. We still have a great class that hopefully our coaches can develop and we can get back to where we should be.
This is hard to stomach. How self important can you be? He wasn't talking to ANYONE. You were not special.
Not at all man. Really, had nothing to do with me feeling special. Sorry you took it that way.
This just sounds like a bad excuse. You predicted wrong. Period. Life goes on. But we really don't need an explanation about why you predicted wrong. You will be judged by how well you predict; not by how well you explain your bad predictions.
Nice group tonight
we should have figured it out when Da'Shawn mentioned his interest in Engineering as a major.
I really hope Da'Shawn does pursue that engineering degree. The kid seems like a great down to earth guy with dreams both on and off the field.
The apology is appreciated but not necessary. I love your content so no worries. It's far from an exact science so just give us the info we need, make predictions, etc.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this board. And from a staffer at that. I don't even know what else to say.
What are the odds that this school-specific, ordinary-guy-turns-reporter-guy stuff turn a kid off from attending a school in the near future? At what point do the negatives of this third-party recruiting fad outweigh the (supposed) positives?
From what you say, it appears that things headed south for The Blue a little while ago and today's announcement was predictable. So be it. You are in a position where as a journalist you need to walk a fine line between reporting hard facts vs. feelings or hunches. We all need to remember too that recruits like Hand can be reading posts on this blog. Either way, I have no problem with what you've written in the past and found it very worthwhile.
I really don't understand or agree that so many people downvoted your post.
to Michigan either ... bank it. The "Michigan" lean posture does not hold water. We better start coaching better real fast and have a superior year next year or this could get ugly. Hey, no increase in ticket prices next year ... watch out for 2015.
Is kinda petty, yathink? We didn't get a prized bull for our herd so we shoot the messenger.
There were probably cuter/hotter girls in Bama and nobody wants to put that in writing but me. Just saying that's the way I would have approached it when I was 18.
Can we look at what we now have control of....at least one to possibly two new players to recruit. Hand's ship done sailed and we can watch him on tv in a few years.
Meanwhile...McDowell has just as high of an upside as Hand if you ask me and could potentially play against us for 3-4 years...
He visited bama October 25. 2 weeks later he's ready to make his decision. I fully expected this.
Thanks for the solid content this year, its great to have someone on the site dedicated to recruiting, even on days like today.
Your post above, however, triggered some thoughts I meant to raise last time this came up... apologies in advance but here are some take it or leave it feedback.
IMO, I think the "if they talk to me its a good sign" theory is a little problematic.
This is just my opinion, it makes MgoBlog seem a little stalkish, creepy and self-important when it essentially broadcasts its number one predictive indicator is length and frequency of recruit contact.
2. TURN OFF
As a nervous ninny fan, it makes me a little nervous that bloggers and social media folks of all stripes are contacting these teenagers constantly and more than the actual coaches are and that this could be mistakenly perceived as something representative of the university experience at large.
3. INCENTS YOU TO ACT BAD
Third, it seems like, as an admitted homer, this theory incents you to behave badly over time.
4. INEFFECTIVE AND INCENTS YOU TO ACT BAD AGAIN
Fourth, these kids have hundreds of people contacting them a day…how is this theory in anyway predictive? .e.g. how are most teenagers going to know about mGoBlog unless you are selling it to him (e.g. yet another incentive to act bad and “puff” the blog, etc).
I wonder if straight journalistic approach -simple fact based approach is better? And I wonder if all of this stuff is "reportable" of better kept in trust?
1. how generic responses are when contacted
2. family connections
3. scheme fit
4. is he reaching out to you (sending you tapes, etc.)
5. academic ability/fit
6. geography (how far away from home, climate change?)
7. depth (how soon to play) and current talent levels (how soon to play on winning team)
8. current team's success on the field
9. connection with the coaches.
10. coaching ability - team forecast (team on a winning arc or losing trajectory)
11. Other inputs (other recruits, coaches, etc)..
Just some thoughts...sorry for the long post.
We have Brady Hoke and this coaching staff to blame!
Seriously, What sort of Jackassery is this?
People are bunch of piss ants on here nowadays. Wahhh about everything.
I hv another crystal ball. Recruits who drag their recruiting process tend to choose the more "professionally run" school (SEC or OSU). Michigan gives our the "family vibe". If the recruit doesnt get it in the early going that Michigan is like family to him, chances are he will choose the other more established football factory. Almost all of our late commits come from recruits that we flipped from second tier football schools!
Coach Brown, according to your gut feel, who else is likely to committ to the 2014 class for Michigan?
Vic Enwere, the RB out of Texas who is currently committed to Cal seems to be pretty interested. I've just started talking with him but there will be a post up tomorrow morning about him and Jhonny Williams that I'd say are both possibilities. Obviously McDowell is still a possibility, but I'm starting to see that as less likely. There just aren't a lot of realistic options left on the 2014 board at this point.
But I am with the Dude or Duderino. I am tired of losing and the last time I heard that (we are tired of losing) was from the team that took us to the mountain top in 97 and I know for a fact they would have beat NE up and down the field but there it is again a funcking asterisk. We are funcking sick of it and want to get back to the days we were feared I mean FEARED. So I want to say, Thank you Duderino and I know what you are trying to say who gives a F*ck just WIN we R tired of losing.
Water over the falls. Most teams will lose out to the likes of Alabama. If the team was playing better, they probably would have had a better chance but no guarantees! Just like some of our verbal commits could de-commit. We won't know until signing day!
Bring back user mods and negbangs plz...
You can "make it up to me" at least by starting a new thread and making it a Michigan Recruiting Primer. Joking on the "make it up to me" part by the way.
I'm being serious on the primer though.
I know I can go to other sites and see who are targets on, but I don't really visit other site. And the only recruiting news I get on this site is what recruits are doing in their HS tournaments.
So I'd love to know...position by postion. Who do we have? Who's out there? What's their interest level? Who are potential prospects that could be on the radar? How many spots do we have left?
Again, a lot of bullshit and sarcasm on this thread. But it would be nice to regroup and have some useful information for once. I'd like to know who I should be watching for...realistically. Cause right now, McDowell seems like the only name that's realistically out there. Can you please give us a detailed rundown (in another thread...since this one, well, it is what it is).
Yahoo article on how bad the decision was for our program and Hoke.
He stopped talking to everyone at a certain point. Or you had some insight that no one else had, seeing as all of the people closest to him thought he was Michigan