Thanks for the insight!
So........how responsive have Hand and McDowell been?
Thanks for the insight!
So........how responsive have Hand and McDowell been?
I am very confident in Hand. His coach talks to me all the time, Da'Shawn himself doesn't, but that's just kind of how he is. He's not a spotlight, flashy, talkative kind of person. The times I have talked to him, he was so excited about Michigan it was easy to detect. Now, it's been a while, and he's had his Bama visit and Florida visit approaching so those will factor in, but I think he's Blue.
McDowell on the other hand is a little trickier. He's a different kind of kid. His trainer tells me that Malik doesn't even know who most of the coaches are that call him. He just loves football but doesn't get caught up in all the nonsense. Early on he talked to me all the time. He would respond to texts, send me messages on Facebook, he even sent me a picture of his car when he got into a small accident last winter. Lately though, he's been a ghost. I think he's been like that toward everyone but that makes me a bit leery. I still think Michigan is the obvious choice because he's familiar and has visited so many times, but if he surprised a lot of people and committed elsewhere, I wouldn't be shocked.
I'll be very interested once Malik makes his decision to know the reasoning behind why he suddenly shut things down when he seemed ready to commit to Michigan a year ago. It seems like he was very open to talking and outspoken about his M love and then suddenly stopped talking entirely and began his nihilistic quest to deny every story about him. Very strange.
Supposedly, his parents didn't want him making a commitment that early. They wanted him to slow down the process.
Who is our main competition to land Malik?
The list of realistic candidate might be far narrower now for all we know, but on Rivals, you've got Alabama, Florida, Florida State, LSU, Notre Dame, Michigan State, Ohio State and USC listed with "medium" for interest. I would think the top of the list comes from this group.
Florida and USC are the biggest competitors, from what I've gathered.
Soooo how has your dialogue with Hand and McDowell been?!?
Soooo......how's it been talking with Hand and McDowell?
Yeah, but what about Hand and McDowell?
Brandon....hold me. It's something TomVH used to do.
**hands brandon a sweater vest**
You really shouldn't talk about your exes in front of your new girl
So it sounds like Lattimore isn't realistic (not that I ever thought it was) but what about his teammate Smith?
Thanks for this. Interesting to see what the potential indicators are! Seems like you have a bit of a Sam Webb-esque "gut instinct."
Does he dropping out bode well with the two kids from Glenville? (Lattimore & Smith)
Is that a product of JuJu's own choosing? Or has M been heating up on those two, causing JuJu to see the writing on the wall?
Have you had a chance to talk with the Glenville duo at all?
Will any of my questions be answered? Find out next time on...RECRUITING IN SPACE.
Whether intended or not, that reminded me of "Pigs in Space" which also makes me laugh because as I'm typing this, I have the muppet movie on. Yeah, so what, my 4 yr old is in bed, I happen to like it. Okay, I happen to love it.
How about Hjalte Froholdt?
A quick google search suggests that this person actually exists! So there you go.
On the side of my browser for mgoblog is an advertisement for Michigan State's "New Master Certificates in Supply Chain Management." It's "100% Online." could this be funded by MSU's a.d., a sort of Brandon-esque way of taunting me through my favorite website?
Froholdt is very responsive and talks to me quite a bit. His situation is just so different that it's hard to get a bead on him. I think Michigan will be in the mix for him though.
So, if they talk to you, its a good thing?
Based on two years?
might be too soon buddy...
but I guess if you keep contacting them at 14 it should help our team in the long, long run...
Well, consider the source.
Unneccessary. BBrown has been doing this for two years and has established himself. He calls, leaves a message with his credentials, and the kid can Google to confirm. Not calling is a great indication of interest.
I probably could have left out the last sentence...
the damage is already done
you don't read the recruiting round-ups? Or the interviews?
Of course I read them, but I like to get the information straight from the source. Plus you can't really detect tone or anything like that by reading text.
Was in reply to jdon and his critical take on recruiting info. Appreciate your work Brandon
Athlete shows interest in talking to Michigan centric recruiting reporter = genuine interest in playing for Michigan.
Is that so hard to grasp as a concept?
I mean this isn't an Earth shattering concept, I just thought I'd share what I've found with some examples. It's not hard to figure out that if a kid is overly willing to talk with a Michigan site that he probably has interest in Michigan.
I've been concerned with the amount of confidence other recruiting experts have had regarding McDowell considering his distance and unwillingness to name a leader, or really say anything. The only thing that gives me confidence is that his parents seem 100% Blue, and that often can be a huge factor in the end. He'll be an excellent pick-up for whichever team is fortunate enough to land him. I hope Jabrill is still working on him! Go Blue!
So in other words Hand to Alabama and McDowell to Florida?
So... what you're saying is fire Borges? /s
Besides Hand and McDowell, who else have you been in touch with that gives you good feelings?
This joke is old as hell, but it still makes me laugh.
That is all.
Are the recruits that you talked to on a regular basis that were very positive about Michigan that went elsewhere? For example did you speak with Josh Garnett, who it sounded like was high on Michigan but then picked Stanford.
Treadwell is one that comes to mind. I didn't have a ton of communication with him, but everything pointed to him being Blue for a long time. I actually wasn't covering recruiting when the Garnett recruitment was going on, so I have nothing to offer there.
Wouldn't you improve the accuracy by networking with recruiting gurus from other teams? You say re. McDowell that "I think he's been like that toward everyone", but have you contacted OSU, MSU, Alabama, Florida, etc. gurus, and checked how their contact is with them? Seems if you always did that, you'd increase your accuracy by an additional factor.
I have done that, but not as much as I'd actually like to. Sometimes it's just a matter of not thinking about it and other times people aren't as open to sharing information as much as you'd think.
Either way it is definitely an approach I have used and would like to use more.
Hey, pass the bong, man. Don't hog it.
So you're saying there's a chance?
I hear ya...
How do you see this class finishing out?
Brandon: Thanks for your work here on the blog and posting something like this (which is very cool and I dont remember ever seeing before) where you take a Q & A on individual recruits and make actual predictions.
FWIW it seems to me like you've taken more crap than anybody not on the coaching staff on this site and for the life of me I dont know why.
Much appreciated-keep up the good work!
BTW, thanks for putting the link to your wife's website. That's a very well-done site with lots of positive health info. I assume that's you on the About Me page?
That is me (taken at the Tiki bar at Put-in-Bay on my birthday this year). And the other pic is of us and the kids taken a couple of years ago around Christmas.
Thanks for the nice words on the site. She works very hard at it (completely non-commercialized) and does it simply to try and help people get and stay healthy.
I'm not really sure why either, but it's all good. I don't really care if people dig it or not. Brian saw enough in what I've done to bring me aboard and I enjoy it so whatever.
People dig it
The contact with recruits these days is a change from even a decade ago. It parallels the rise of social media, which is here to stay, even as it changes. So there's no reason to freak out if there is a learning curve -- you and Tom and the like are shaping things to come. You seem like you have a unique angle of approach, so keep on going.
General observations like this are interesting, even with your small two-year data set. Three years from now I hope you will step back and give us a more nuanced impression of this phenomenom over a full five-year Michigan recruiting cycle.
What about a guy like Parker Westphall?
We don't consider him as an option anymore, but what happened?
Also, what are your thoughts on other guys it seems Michigan is recruiting (Ballage, Glenville kids, etc.) at least somewhat heavily.
...been talking to for the 2015 class?
There are hundreds of recruits that I've talked to...it's not just about talking a little bit. Responses to questions, attitude toward the interaction, willingness to speak, details given. There's a lot involved that lead me to the vibes in both directions.
Would be if you could do follow up interviews with players once they have commited. Assuming that players are ok (i.e. you ask permission) I'd love to hear about why they specifically chose Michigan over other schools, or the opposite. I get the normal "good academics" and I get that sometimes it's something that can really be described, but... I'm sure sometimes it can be one thing.
For example: "After talking with Michigan Offeree X, I feel that he chose School X because it was too important for the players family to watch him play every Saturday in person".
"Player X said flat out that he thought Coach X at the other school spent more time with his players and prepares them better for the NFL".
Afterthoughts are something that I think people on this board would really enjoy.
I appreciate and enjoy your contributions to this thread!
I don't think talking to = commitment, but it makes me feel like there is a more realistic chance. So far in the 2015 class I have gotten a good vibe from the following:
Jacques Patrick, Brian Cole, Iman Marshall, Terry Beckner Jr., Jashon Cornell, Hjalte Froholdt, Jerome Baker Jr., Justin Hilliard, Sterling Jenkins, Tanner Muse, Devonaire Clarington, TJ Wheatley Jr.
I want to go on the record and say that there are already some names on that list I'd call long shots at best, but of the offered 2015 prospects those guys have all been very receptive to me thus far. It's still quite early for 2015's and they know the drill, don't burn bridges early, but those guys have given me a bit of a vibe so far.
Just my opinion, but I would say the longshots are:
Jacques Patrick, Iman Marshall, Jerome Baker Jr.,
er... i think i may have crossed the streams...
BBrown is the recruit whisperer!
Thought it was worth sharing. I wonder if it will mean anything.
for the punishment you get and will continue to get in the furure from people who not only look a gift horse in the mouth they put their whole head in. Here's to wishing horses were carnivores, and hoping they get confused on which head I was talking about.
Brandon - can you go into any more detail on Cornell? He's obviously one of the top D-lineman in the class and from my home state of MN. Really love to see him go blue but Crystal Ball has him leaning ND, followed by Umich and then FL