Basketball snowflakes

Submitted by rob6reid on

Hey on the bright side, I dont think we have to worry about anyone leaving for the NBA this year, so we'll have the whole team back next year. Also Harbaugh.

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Bagheera

December 20th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^

There wasn't a great excuse during the Ellerbe days either, though we did have outdated facilites and were still reeling from one of the worst scandals in CBB history. 

I'm not being negative.  I'm just pointing out the obvious. Teams all over the country are winning games with freshman and sophomore starters, and we're losing to NJIT.  With our resources, that's ridiculous. 

 

 

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Tater

December 20th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^

The team is young.  Also, I am guessing that you don't remember the Ellerbe-Amaker years.

Give them a little bit of time.  The big guys need to develop and more shots need to fall.   They obviously miss Nik Stauskas more than we would have thought.  I knew we all expected LeVert or Irvin to step in and fill the void, but it hasn't quite happened that way yet.  

My best guess: they get hammered for a couple of weeks in the Big Ten, get sick of it and take a Beilein Leap.  

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Bagheera

December 20th, 2014 at 2:28 PM ^

Our oldest starter had more turnovers than points today.  Youth is certainly a problem, but the bigger problem is that our young players just don't look very talented.  

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KAYSHIN15

December 20th, 2014 at 2:04 PM ^

That our front line was pitiful and would cost us at least 10 games and guys jumped down my throat. Time for Coach B and the boys to hit the road and look for some bigs or next year will be the same. We might not make the NIT this year. At this point, I will gladly sacrifice a year of suffering in all sports to land one Jim Harbaugh.

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freejs

December 20th, 2014 at 2:34 PM ^

maybe there were other factors that made those guys not a match, but, on the face of it, this was a terrible move. 

Because really, what value is it to have Bielfeldt, who is gone after this year, anyway, out on the court playing important minutes?

Would make such a difference to have brought someone in, and it was so doable. 

Otoh, all you moops who were falling over yourselves about keeping Hatch on an athletic scholarship are the same people blasting this same staff. That spot could be a big man transfer - you liked it then, live with it now. 

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mclub

December 20th, 2014 at 5:37 PM ^

There's only two scholarships left to give out over the next two years.  One of those it looks like is going to go to a point guard, the other probably to a wing 3/4 type.  With Teske coming in 2016, these are our bigs the next 3-4 years. There will be no new recruits, so we will need to develop the guys we have.

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The Reeve

December 20th, 2014 at 2:05 PM ^

No, the NBA isn't going to touch Caris or Zack. Which is indeed good news. Because if we lost either one of those guys, next year would make this year look like a run to the final four. They need to marinate in coach's wisdom, and we need to get Ricky up to snuff.

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umchicago

December 20th, 2014 at 2:46 PM ^

may also become effective at the 4 if he can consistently knock down the 3.  i'm sure it's all he and doyle can do right now just to learn the 5.

this season ain't over.  i expect the 3 point shooting to progress toward expectations; consistently > 40%.  not the 20% we saw today.  and with that, the wins will follow.

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AMazinBlue

December 20th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

there is no 'go-to' guy.  If you are going to have an outside shooting team, you have to have some inside threat to open that up.  They don't really have an inside or outside threat right now.  It's gonna be a long season.

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enlightenedbum

December 20th, 2014 at 2:17 PM ^

There are four guys on this team that shot 40% from three last year.  So that's kind of bullshit, actually.

We're missing a cocky asshole who will go get his and a leader who gets everyone organized, particularly on defense.

Not that I'm referring to anyone in particular or anything.

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Moonlight Graham

December 20th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

No disrespect, but he's the type of player that could use a full four years and then will still very likely do well in the pros. He has to look at the amount of time McGary and GRIII are spending in the D-League. I hope he does come back. This same roster next year could do well with more experience and just a fresh 0-0 record in '15-'16. 

I don't think Beilein exactly counted on this in his recruiting outlook. He may have been thinking GRIII and McGary were going to be gone, but not Stauskas and Horford. I haven't checked the '16 and '17 recruiting prospects but it makes me nervous. 

Here's hoping the NBA and NCAA go to a two-and-done model like has been rumored, similar to hockey and baseball. You can go pro out of high school and also be drafted, but if you go to college it needs to be for at least two years (I don't know the equivalent rules for hockey and baseball but I think they're similar or possibly all four). 

That would deplete Kentucky, Duke and Kansas somewhat and level the playing fleid, and I think Michigan would benefit greatly from this approach. Izzo's model probably would, too, as would Wisconsin and maybe Ohio State, but at least Calipari's semi-pro teams would be broken up. 

Having said all that, nothing about that rule would have saved us in this losing streak this year. 

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Moonlight Graham

December 20th, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^

All the other pieces are there, they're just shooting poorly and playing sloppy which are both bewildering. 

It's like one of our rivals managed to put something in the Gatorade supply for both our football and basketball programs to drain a percentage of their athleticism and mental focus. Both programs just look a half step/half second slower than everyone else. 

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