Barwis on David Molk
There is a good interview with Barwis on thewolverine.com for those of you who are subscribers.
In the video he gets asked about David Molk and he throws out some impressive numbers.
Molks stats according to Barwis:
Bench: 480 lbs.
Squat: 700 lbs.
Clean: 400 lbs.
40 time: 4.9 at 290 lbs.
Pretty impressive in my opinion.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:16 AM ^
That sounds kind of impressive but with my being not nearly that big nor knowing enough about offensive line measurables, I don't really have a point of reference. Can anyone supply such numbers?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:32 AM ^
Actually 7 years ago, I played DIII and his stats are what I would expect from a DI athlete. I was a very marginal(honorable mention all-conference my senior year) offensive lineman. Here are my stats to his:
I played at 6'1" 305
Bench: 385 (we would rep out at 225lbs during testing in preseason and I went from 8 my freshman year to 21 my senior year) This is just to show how much you could improve in a structured strength program
Squat: 650
Clean: I think about 325
40 was 5.18 at 305lbs
EDIT: I hesitate to throw this info out there for fear of "WHO GIVES A RIP!, I played 8th Grade basketball and averaged 27 ppg." I just thought it would be a good reference ot see what sets DI athletes from DIII athletes.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:33 AM ^
This was helpful. Thanks.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:16 PM ^
To the contrary, it is a very helpful comparison. Thank you for taking the risk to share. Kudos.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:46 AM ^
Played DII ball and two of the lineman from my team that were invited to the combine couldn't do that...it's very impressive!
Let's just say that when you are squating 700lbs, the bar actually bends quite a bit and looks as though it may snap...it's quite interesting to watch actually.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:26 AM ^
A good point of reference would be the NFL draft. Just looking at the top 3 centers that were taken and their combine numbers.
Center Alex Mack from California - #21 overall
Height - 6'4
Weight - 311
Power Clean - 374
40 time - 5.17
Bench Reps at 225 - 20
Could also look
Center Eric Wood from Louisville - #28 overall
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 310
40 Yard Dash : 5.25 seconds
Bench Press : 30.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 30.5 inches
Last but not least
Center Max Unger from Oregon - #49 overall
Height: 6'4
Weight: 309
40 Yrd Dash: 5.26
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 24 1/2
I know it is not the greatest comparison, because you can't compare the raw numbers for the squats, cleans and max bench press. But it at least gives you a ballpark
August 27th, 2009 at 12:01 PM ^
I looked at my stats to make sure I wasn't making anything up and wondered why I wasn't in the League. And then I realized there were a few things I was missing:
1. Height
2. Quickness/Speed (hands and feet)
3. Tenacity-(the need to kill someone at any cost) Those DI, DII, and DIII guys that have a chance at the big time, all have that certain something that shows up when they throw the helmet on. They really are bi-polar.
4. Discontentment- They are top notch "want-it" kind of guys, never satisfied.(in a positive way)
August 27th, 2009 at 12:27 PM ^
I recently bench pressed 105 lbs (after years of training), with the help of two spotters. Actually, they helped get the weight off my throat before I suffocated.
I can run from my kitchen table to the fridge for a beer (about 12 feet) in 7 minutes (6 minutes, 20 seconds of which is a smoke break halfway there).
I clean...nothing. The house is a serious mess and I'm thinking that I should go buy some paper plates so I don't have to do the dishes this month.
I squat...and my bad knees prevent me from getting up for half an hour.
I jerk...but sometimes I kind of nice.
Hope that helps!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM ^
"I jerk...but sometimes I kind of nice."
+1
August 27th, 2009 at 2:43 PM ^
I never thought I'd give you a + for anything, but this had me laughing out loud for a few posts below this. Very good stuff.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:18 AM ^
what Barwis's numbers would be for these....
August 27th, 2009 at 10:18 AM ^
Well boys and girls. That right there is impressive. In a land where 4.4 and 4.5's are deemed quick, just think about another 90 or so lbs adding only 4 tenths to a 40. Go big man go! Speed like that for a big man is something that can only be understood in person. Good for him.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:23 AM ^
Think young grizzly bear.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:24 AM ^
and I would be surprised if I could still run a time less than that. Having said that, age 18-22 is not even in my rearview mirror anymore. Very impressive for a man his size IME.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:26 AM ^
That's very impressive, even for a offensive lineman.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:33 AM ^
interesting side story: David Molk was visiting the guy across the hall from me at my dorm once. My roommate invited them all into my room for a couple drinks. I had been getting ready for bed, so I had my shirt off.
Molk my friend introduces Molk to me, and I shake his hand. First thing out of his mouth was, "You are one skinny son of a bitch"
It was entirely light hearted, but it was the most obvious thing to say considering that we are almost the same height(he is about an inch taller) and he was at the time exactly double my weight, and probably more than that now.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:41 AM ^
After that first paragraph, I thought that story was heading down the direction of gay porn... Not that there's anything wrong with that. :)
August 27th, 2009 at 3:02 PM ^
made up, but then one happened to me..."
August 27th, 2009 at 11:33 PM ^
THE GIRLS NEVER CAME!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:37 AM ^
That clean number is huge. I can't believe he can run a 4.9 40. It will be interesting to see how Michigan's line comes out against WMU.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:41 PM ^
That 40 time is probably a bit FAKE!, like all college 40 times. But still, he is probably pretty close to the combine guys above, somewhere in the 5.1 to 5.3 range.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:51 PM ^
I doubt that time is fake. DI lineman have speed. Like I said earlier, it is mind-boggling to see how fast some of those fatty's can run. 4.9 is totally realistic for 290lbs. If they said 4.7, then I would agree with you.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:04 PM ^
I'm not saying it's impossible that he is that fast, but basically everyone outside of the NFL combine is known for exaggerating their player's 40 times (the notorious "Florida board," Terrelle Pryor's 4.3, etc.). It is unlikely that Molk's time is accurate because these things rarely are. But still, add a few tenths to his time and he is in the same league as the top centers that entered last year's draft. That is great territory to be in.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:20 PM ^
I agree we'll never know exacts, but at least his is realistic.
On a side note, I hate the whole 40 time argument. I will believe it as long as it is not hand held. We did ours at a small school with a timing system, so I would assume UofM can do theirs with the latest technology.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:24 PM ^
If I were to ask anyone what Denard runs in the 40, I'm sure I'd get a whole lot of 4.4's back.
Everyone's favorite Herbstreit was quoted as saying that Denard run a 4.3 40 and that that's about as fast as anyone else out there. Note the difference.
If he's running a 4.4 , and the "competition" (I actually think he does a good job of being impartial for a former buckeye QB) is revising times lower, I think it says quite a bit about what happens to stats when they get released to the wild. It's like evolution on a per stat basis. The stats all get faster, bigger, stronger.... To the point they don't resemble (at least not accurately) the player anymore.
Whatever, the 4.9 may not be completely accurate, but as you say, it probably means that if he's right in there with the elite centers as far as stats go. We'll have to see him play make it there, but he is supposed to be pretty good.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:11 PM ^
uuuuuhhhhh...there are no fatties on our team anymore...
August 27th, 2009 at 3:22 PM ^
I should have used the term Heavies. Or my favorite, "Non-skilled"......whatever.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:32 PM ^
:D It's all good...but since eeeeeeeeeeeBarwis has arived, all fat has vanished from our boys. We now have the technology...they can be rebuilt...
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 PM ^
I can catch a ball and run with it. I can juke someone out of their shoes. I can twist, and turn, and utilize my blockers (the problem is, I'm 130lbs). But that makes me a skill player?
C'mon. It takes a lot of athleticism to do what they do in the trenches.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:38 PM ^
You tell Barwis he's a liar then. I'm not!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:57 PM ^
I'll politely suggest that his timing could be a little inaccurate...and then he'll probably snap me in half. But it will still be the best moment of my life because I got to meet Mike Barwis!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 AM ^
My favorite play last year was when he horse-collared a guy after a pick or fumble (I can't remember which) and prevented him from taking it back for 6. I knew he was quick for a lineman then.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:15 AM ^
Molk for the Lombardi Award!!
Book IT!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:21 AM ^
he still runs a faster 40 than me... or at least what i imagine my 40 to be (5.0+).
August 27th, 2009 at 11:33 AM ^
I run a 4.6.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 PM ^
...time you?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM ^
I run a 4.6.
Well I once beat Denard Robinson in a footrace.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:36 PM ^
Liar.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:55 PM ^
you made him tie his shoes
August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 PM ^
9.5 ... 100m. I'm on the yam and chicken nugget diet.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:51 PM ^
4.6 what? Minutes?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:45 PM ^
If you gave me 4.6 minutes, I bet I could run 10 forties. Give me a little bit of credit.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:04 PM ^
thought that Molk had great potential. I just want to see it translated to victories. It's more or less meaningless without them.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:09 PM ^
That's a lot of mass movin' real fast. They must use one of those arrestor wires like they have on aircraft carriers to stop him.
How fast do you suppose he could run it if he was carrying Maverick and Goose on his back?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:48 PM ^
David Molk will be a good player for us. Our line will be bulldozing fools by mid-season.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:27 PM ^
The fourth quarter should belong to us if the strength and conditioning lives up to expectations. This certainly sounds encouraging...
August 27th, 2009 at 4:28 PM ^
I think Martin's picture says everything that needs to be said about strength training.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:53 PM ^
Our line better be "bulldozing fools" right out of the gate or this season is going to suck arse.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:55 PM ^
A sub 5.0 40 for a lineman? Impressive.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:20 PM ^
Here is a link to his HS stats, which are probably a little fake:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/chicagosports/football/recruiting/player-David-…
For those of you who did not like Drew Dileo yesterday b/c he was only a 3*, look at Molk's rating.