demanded a raise.
Barry Alvarez receives a Pay-Raise for Rose Bowl
I don't see the big deal here. He's doing two jobs right? So wouldn't you expect to get paid accordingly?
It's a bit dubious to appoint yourself to a job that comes with a substantial cash bonus. In other words, it's a big deal if you suspect the decision is not in the interests of Wisconsin football but rather of Barry's bank account.
I don't really have a problem with it (not that I care at all), but it's conceivable that some would.
you gotta do it yourself.
I doubt there are many who think anyone better can coach Wisconsin in the rose bowl on such short notice. Man does two jobs, man gets paid for two jobs
I think that's a good point. It would be easy to say "Oh look, he hired himself!" except for the fact that Badger fans absolutely love the hire. In this case, I'd have to say he's actually picked the right guy for the job rather than he's exploiting his position to make bank. I mean, maybe it's the same thing ... maybe it's not. But I can guarantee Badger fans are more excited about the Rose Bowl now than they were with Bielema at the helm.
It's like if your CEO gives himself a bonus for working extra hours during a transition in key leadership personnel. Not a crime, but rather douchey
The man has got to feed his family.
Maybe he has kids in college like Les Miles. Needed that raise.
I do not see the problem here. He will be working two jobs until the bowl game (for those keeping track: 1] Wisco AD 2] Wisco HC). Why should his pay not be commensurate with his duties? Would any of you take on an entire 2nd job and do it for free?
Well, people do it all the time. In fact, I'm doing it right now.
I recently started a new job, but my replacement for my old job hasn't been named yet. In the interim, I'm doing both. And believe me, I'm not getting two paychecks!
I don't think it is wrong or unfiar, but in a FOIA world, all this stuff will come to light, and it will never play well.
Also, I can think of lots of situations where someone has taken an interim role for $1 while a permanent replacement is found. Certainly seems to be the classier/high road approach.
because he wasn't good enough at job #1 (keeping a successful head football coach at his school).
He's getting a raise because he f'd up.
You're kind of a sucker if you just sign on to do more work for nothing. I don't really see an issue with this. He has to get back into coach mode to prepare for Stanford and deal with whatever he needs to do as AD over this month span. He should be compensated accordingly.
This. I'll never work for free unless it's charity. I told my dad I was going to do an unpaid internship in college. He called me a dumbass, said they'd make me their bitch for nothing and to find something real to do. If I'm not getting paid, I'm not doing it. Why should they benefit from my work?
This reminds me of that movie scene in Horrible Bosses where Jason Bateman's boss (Kevin Spacey) announces that he's promoting himself and only taking 50-60% of the pay raise "for the good of the company".
I don't think it's that big of a deal.
except for the fact that he wouldn't pay Beilema's assistants a few extra 100K per year, but will take a couple 100K for himself for 3 fucking weeks work.
It's not additional money. It's the money budgeted FOR the football coach.
it's a fair point, but nonetheless: why penny pinch 6 months ago over a few 100k and then not now?
Exactly. Wisconsin has the money for Alvarez to be the sixth highest paid AD, but not enough to keep Bielema and his assistants around. Huh.
You know, if I were a Wisconsin fan, I'd probably be more interested in seeing Alvarez conduct a coaching search than playing coach himself for a few weeks. People are suggesting that he deserves the pay for doing two jobs, but I find it hard to believe he's actually doing two jobs' worth of work, considering what 99% of ADs in his situation would be doing.
Alvarez isn't actually coaching, he's CEOing and playing the figurehead to deflect attention away from the team and allow them to prepare
So he's taking nearly a full coach's salary to be a figurehead and still not conduct a coaching search?
well, he's conducting a search, just a spectacularly fucktastic one in which he's probably going to end up up with Dave Clawson
Someone on Twitter said this, but for his bowl duties Alvarez gets $200K and Montee Ball gets a watch and a backpack. Fuck this racket.
That's the difference between being a student and being a professional.
and being a guy with a headset.
Ball's also getting a free college education. Don't forget that.
So you mean to tell me that colleges just pluck random people off the streets and give them free college educations? These guys don't do anything for the schools? I'll be damned.
I'm surprised no one else has voiced the thought that it seems like he does get paid plenty (pays himself, even...), but a year ago, assistant coaches were fleeing... And they were after more money, no? Seems bizarre to throw lots of money at the AD and too little money at the assistant coaches.
Then I remember how much Bielema was getting paid, and now I'm undecided what my opinion is, again.
I remember how much he was getting paid...not enough to stay.
Bielema cited low pay for the assistants as a factor in his departure. It does seem a little odd then for Alvarez to pocket some extra cash right after that.
Pay the players god damnit
Remember how odd we all thought it was that Lloyd Carr somehow made friends with Russell Crowe? Well Lloyd wasn't the only B1G coach who was making the rounds in Cali back in the day. And when you party with with these guys you need to bring it - Barry probably just needed the money to pay for his upcoming bar bill during the trip to socal.
must be nice to make $200,000 in a month as a side job.....
The things I could accomplish with that money...
Ever notice that Tyler Zeller looks like our own Nik Stauskas?
i have never seen a more unrelated post hijack than this. Just saying, no offense
I should have titled it "unrelated hijack post" anyways I was watching tv while reading this thread. Indiana and Cleveland game was on and noticed Zeller sitting on the bench but at first glance I thought it was Stauskas. Figured I would post it rather starting a ridiculous thread about someone who looks like someone. 75% of the people on this board would have.
it seems like a dickhead thing to do
football team was DB Troy Vincent.....and that was about it.
Those were the early years under Barry Alvarez, and then they started to kick ass.
Hope the Badgers do as well in the Rose Bowl as they did vs. Nebraska.
So, Alvarez just got to stroke his ego and fill his wallet at the same time? Great work if you can get it...
I've never understood the love for Barry Alvarez. The guy was a mediocre Big Ten coach.
Wisconsin was basically Indiana when he took over.
Wisconsn was a perennial loser with few fans when he arrived. Now they're a perennial league contender and Camp Randall is sold out every week. He is their Bo Schembechler.
This is definitely one of the most untrue statements ever
I look forward to exploring the pay structure of the new head football coach and his assistants at Wisconsin.
These guys never miss an opportunity. One month of quasi work nets an extra $200,000. There is no way he can do BOTH jobs, the demands are two great, so he'll end up half assing them both....
What a fuckin racket.
He's not doing both jobs. He's just taking his salary from the one that pays better.
I wish I got paid extra when I did two jobs at once. My salary would be doubled every month.
that the only nugget of truth to be revealed in this whole situation is that Barry's sculpter was wearing beer goggles.
I have incessantly ribbed my UW friends and neighbors (I live in Madison, work at UW) about this exact fact. Barry's statue definitely seems "streamlined", at least compared to his heydays as head football coach. Thanks for the evidence.
He's not double dipping - if the poster's info is correct, he's taking only 10% of his usual AD salary and 90% of the old coach's salary. Rough math says this setup saves the University about $100,000 this month versus the old status quo. Could he take less - sure. But this seems fair. Perhaps his estimation was he would be spending 90% of his time this month coaching, or being a figurehead, or whatever you want to call it, and 10% as AD.
That is all.
Not taking sides in politics here, but with all of the attention on Lansing this week, and all of the attention in Madison last year, isn't the pay level of public employees kind of a tender issue right now? Does someone have asbestos underwear up there?
If Wisconsin's finances are like Michigan's, Alvarez is not truly a public employee (i.e., taxpayer funds do not pay his salary).
The USA Today story doesn't add much, but it does mention this regarding the temporary raise:
"The money for the coaching job will come out of Bielema's $1 million buyout to be paid by Arkansas."
If that's correct, then he is being paid (mostly, anyway) with money owed to the school, not necessarily straight from the budget (save for the percentage of his salary perhaps, which would be in the budget), so it isn't necessarily hurting their progress on finding a replacement for Bielema or shorting someone or something vital to the program. That being said, I have to wonder if it might be a different arrangement - from a monetary standpoint - if they weren't expecting the buyout money from Arkansas.
Like others, I don't really have an issue with someone being compensated to do two jobs on a temporary basis, especially since it probably means his some horrific hours for the next few weeks more than likely.
I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the pay, but I simply can't imagine working for a month at something and earning enough money during that time to pay off my house in its entirety. Blows my mind.
If he's only devoting 10% of his time to the AD job, then isn't there some assistant AD that deserves $100k or so for December.
Just realized I didn't check whether some else made the same comment.