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November 18th, 2012 at 12:44 AM | Best case scenario (Score:2)
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ND loses, doesn't get to the title game, and still gets Oregon in a BCS bowl game for their troubles.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:58 AM | Not going to happen.  We'd (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Not going to happen.  We'd likely get KSU in the Fiesta, or a date in the Sugar.  Oregon v. Nebraska.

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November 18th, 2012 at 7:16 PM | Unless things change, again.... (Score:2)
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Oregon won't be in the Rose Bowl; they need Stanford to lose this week to be PAC-12 champs. So they'll get a BCS at large. If Bama goes first, the Sugar has first pick. Do they go with ND or another SEC team for tradition (since they didn't have one last year, and don't have the title game there)? If they pass on ND then ND goes to whoever loses their 2nd choice, if there is one (Oregon wouldn't be champ but could get in...or another SEC team). If there isn't one, they'll go to the Fiesta to bolster the ratings of playing KSU with the first pick. If they end up in the Sugar it depends on who they get with their second pick, which might be the 2nd best SEC team.....or yes, Oregon. (Though I can see the Fiesta taking them as another west coast team).

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:40 AM | my thoughts exactly (Score:1)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUQMs0kVEI

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:40 AM | So where does Oregon end up now? (Score:2)
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They don't even have the inside track on the Rose Bowl.

At least KSU lost. If ND got a title shot vs. them it would have been criminal.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:41 AM | I will put the money on Bama (Score:3 Normal)
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I will put the money on Bama thank you very much. Don't even care what the spread is.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:42 AM | Holy Jesus (Score:1)
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Suddenly it looks almost possible.  Oregon just lost.

That means Notre Dame will be #1 on Monday.  Holy Jesus god no.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:42 AM | Once the M and MSU games (Score:2 Normal)
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Once the M and MSU games ended, this day couldn't have gone worse. Minnesota, Baylor, and Stanford are dead to me. We now have a choice of ND vs SEC and SEC vs SEC. I hate everything.

But still....Beat Ohio.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:45 AM | You forgot (Score:3 Normal)
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Wisconsin.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:55 AM | I should clarify. Wisconsin (Score:2 Funny)
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I should clarify. Wisconsin died for me last year. 

Indiana and Purdue have also made the list this season.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:43 AM | This is the worst I've ever (Score:1)
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This is the worst I've ever felt after a Michigan win. Barkley had better come back next weekend.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:48 AM | Nope (Score:3 Normal)
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I felt worse after we beat Minnesota but Sparty choked against Nebraska and Pitt did the same against Notre Dame.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:00 AM | Or we beat NW in overtime but (Score:2 Normal)
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Or we beat NW in overtime but Penn State was choked against Nebraska.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:50 AM | Too true (Score:1)
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A few hours ago I was enjoying a great win and daring to hope that Ohio would lose to an average Wisconsin team.  Oh what a difference a few hours make.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:44 AM | BCS Baby! (Score:1)
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So, our 2 of our 3 losses came against #1 and #2.  I'd say we have an excellent shot of making the top 14 and an at-large bid if we can beat a certain unbeaten team next week.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:10 AM | I think our shot at a BCS (Score:2)
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I think our shot at a BCS game took a serious hit tonight with the Oregon loss.  We really need UCLA to beat Stanford. 

If UCLA does not beat Stanford next week

  1. Those two teams will match up a week later in the PAC12 CG with the winner going to the Rose Bowl and being ranked ahead of M. 
  2. Also, Oregon plays Oregon State next week.  If Oregon wins, they almost certainly will get an at-large BCS bid.  If Oregon State wins, then both Oregon and Oregon State stay above us and hurt our chances to get to top 14. 

 

 

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:45 AM | Ah jeeze.  I had a diary (Score:2)
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Ah jeeze.  I had a diary halfway done talking about Michigan's BCS chances but I'm so disgusted by the thought of a Notre Dame - Alabama championship game that I don't even want to finish it.  Hmm... the team that looked like we had no business even being on the field with versus the team that we gift-wrapped 6 turnovers to and still only lost to by seven.  That's going to be a close game.

Alabama's going to win another national championship and we're going to have to listen to those SEC jerkoffs for another year.

Or somehow, someway, Notre Dame pulls off the upset and we're going to have to listen to those Notre Dame jerkoffs for another decade.

I honestly don't know which would be worse.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:03 AM | Michigan's outside shot at an (Score:2)
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Michigan's outside shot at an at-large bid just went up in smoke with the Stanford and Oklahoma wins. The only reasonable chance was for everyone in the PAC-12 besides Oregon to lose four or more games and the Big 12 besides KSU to lose three or more and drop behind Michigan in the rankings. Now the at large bids will be Notre Dame, Clemson, SEC #2, and Oregon/Stanford/Oklahoma/Texas/KSU.

Bid for New Year's Day game in to-be-named dumpy Florida city against random SEC powerhouse is locked in.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:16 AM | Agree.  Even if things play (Score:2)
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Agree.  Even if things play out perfectly in the PAC12 (UCLA beats Stanford and Oregon beats Oregon State next week and then Oregon beats UCLA in the PAC 12 CG).  It seem likely that Stanford would stay ahead of us and therefore signficantly lessen our chances of getting to top 14. 

If Oregon had taken care of business tonight, M could have conceivable ended up ahead of Stanford, Oregon State and UCLA.

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:46 AM | Sucks to be Oregon.  They (Score:2 Normal)
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Sucks to be Oregon.  They went from the NC to not even winning the Pac12 North.  

No National Championship game.  No Rose Bowl.

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:07 AM | Pac-12 North (Score:1)
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Oregon and Stanford both have one loss - Stanford lost to Washington. 

Stanford plays UCLA next weekend and Oregon plays Oregon St.  If Stanford wins, they go to the title game.  If Stanford loses and Oregon wins, Oregon goes to the title game.  If both teams lose,  I'd guess Stanford goes cause it would be a 3 way tie between Oregon, OSU and Stanford and Stanford beat them both.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:10 AM | If Stanford wins they play (Score:1)
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If Stanford wins they play UCLA two weeks in a row.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:46 AM | The beauty of it all: if the (Score:1)
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The beauty of it all: if the dipshit administration at OSU had decided to sanction themselves and forego a bowl last year, they probably would be in control of their own destiny to get to the BCS champ game now

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:53 AM | We'll do them the favor of (Score:1)
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We'll do them the favor of eliminating that unpleasant thought from their minds next week.

M'Dog

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:10 AM | That's really important.  In (Score:1)
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That's really important.  In the event that they beat us and ND loses to 'bama in the national championship, they would likely try and claim some sort of share of the title, which we obviously can't have.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:49 AM | So if ND loses does it become (Score:1)
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So if ND loses does it become an all SEC championship somehow?

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:53 AM | yup.  After the three (Score:2)
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yup.  After the three unbeatens as of this morning, the SEC had the next 6 spots.  Somebody will lose the SEC champship game and drop a bit, but there'll be 5 more teams waiting to be picked.

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:47 AM | Of those 6 only Florida has a (Score:1)
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Of those 6 only Florida has a shot.  Oregon, Kansas St. and FSU would all have a shot if FSU takes doown Florida next week at home.

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:52 AM | Without free tattoos in Columbus (Score:2)
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we'd be the only thing in between an Ohio-Notre Dame title game

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:54 AM | Thank god for tatgate. (Score:1)
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Or we would be looking at a chance for an Ohio-ND national championship game. 

 

ED: beat to the punch

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:55 AM | The SEC vs SEC stuff is not (Score:1)
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The SEC vs SEC stuff is not likely to happen.  Possible, but not likely.  First you have to see how far Oregon drops.  One loss and it was in overtime.  Yes there are 6 SEC teams sitting in the top 10, but LSU, Tex A&M and S.Car all have 2 losses so they are out.  Alabama/Georgia will knock one out.  That leaves Florida, who would have to win at FSU with what looks like a backup QB.  Facing an FSU team that depending on where Oregon falls, could be a ND loss away from the national title game.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:07 AM | I agree. (Score:1)
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FSU probably beats UF next week. If USC beats Notre Dame, then I think we end up with Oregon (if they beat OR St. next week) vs. SEC champ. If Oregon loses that game or the Pac 12 championship, then the next team in line would be KSU or FSU.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:24 AM | Throw Stanford beating UCLA (Score:1)
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Throw Stanford beating UCLA next week (which btw sets up a rematch the next week in the PAC 12 CG) on top of the FSU over UF and USC over ND scenario and Oregon gets to NC game even through they didn't make their own conference CG (a la Alabama the year before).  The BCS is ridiculus.

 

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 12:56 AM | Could Florida lose to FSU? (Score:1)
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Could Florida lose to FSU? Could SC lose to Clemson? Georgia loses to Bama? ND loses to USC? Oregon beats a possibly unranked team for the Pac12 championship? There is no Big12 Championship. This could be a huge final week ratings shuffle where the computers make us all go WTF?

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:00 AM | Yes, (Score:1)
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If ND were to lose, it would very likely be a rematch of last year's title game LSU-Alabama, unless Florida jumped LSU with a win over FSU.  

However, in this year where ND has gotten every break humanly imaginable, Barkley was injured this week...so they probably tack another win next week with the help of the football gods.

Edit:  Forgot LSU had 2 losses, not 1.  Probably UF or FSU winner vs. Alabama/Georgia winner if ND loses.

BILG

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:03 AM | A four team playoff can't (Score:1)
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A four team playoff can't come here soon enough.  Eight would be even better.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:03 AM | I can't see ESPN allowing (Score:1)
ghost
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I can't see ESPN allowing another all SEC title game.  That was a disaster.  Considering what they pay for the rights they had to have a lost a huge amount of money on that last year.  Don't discount the Ducks.  Wait and see how far they fall.  They get Oreg St. next week and if UCLA beats Stanford at home UCLA in 2 weeks time.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:10 AM | UCLA (Score:1)
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clinched the south title today.  They're in the championship game no matter what happens when they play Stanford.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:34 AM | Here's what would be (Score:1)
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Here's what would be great. 

  • Stanford beats UCLA 
  • Oregon beats Oregon State (one loss Oregon doesn't go to PAC 12 CG). 
  • ND loses. 
  • GT beats Georgia,
  • UF beats FSU
  • Georgia beats Alabama (in SEC CG). 

At that point I think the NC game is Oregon v. Florida (neither of which went to their own conference championship game). 

Obviously, pretty far fetched, but would be a glorious demonstration of the stupidity of the system.

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:51 AM | Actually there is zero chance (Score:1)
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Actually there is zero chance they drop out of the top 10. They will slot in at number 5 just in front of Oregon.  We all thought Alabama might have been dead last week.  Its way to early to assume Oregon and Kansas St ared dead now.

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:31 AM | 18 on 11 (Score:1)
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If ND plays Bama for the National Championship, they will be playing 18-on-11 ball.  Refs are human, and they would be caught up in the "Everything that's right about college football vs everything that's wrong about college football" hype.  ND has gotten better as the year has progressed.  Remember that they are still growing into the spread.  I thought that they would lose against USC, but I'm not so sure now.  

I detest the BCS and the fact that we are only going to get a four-team playoff next season so much that part of me is hoping for a "cluster" of six one-loss teams, with two making it in and the rest all feeling that they have a legitimate bitch against the system.  

It would be hilarious if ND, Oregon, KSU, Bama, Florida, and Clemson could all finish with one loss, with Bama and Florida playing in the BCS "championship" game.  Then, maybe every other conference in the country might get angry enough to ensure that champions only are allowed into a playoff, and would be smart enough to expand it to eight teams.  

 

 

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 1:55 AM | Coming from someone who resides in South Bend... (Score:1)
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and as much as I hate OSU, I can honestly say i hate ND way worse than OSU.  They are the biggest pack of whiners I've ever heard.  Everyone complains how terrible the officiating is and how they got cheated every year since 1992.  Now that they've lucked themselves into narrow and questionable wins vs. BYU, Stanford, Purdue, Michigan, and Pittsburgh.. All i hear is how hard their schedule is and why aren't they in the talk for national championship?  it's such a snide university that even though Notre Dame is in South Bend..their campus has their own postal code and they consider themselves as Notre Dame, Indiana and disassociate with South Bend.

 

Be careful what you wish for, time for Bama to roll and ND to disappear back into the depths of irrelevance for another 20 years.

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November 18th, 2012 at 2:05 AM | Even worse on top of a ND-Bama NC game (Score:2)
Don
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is that we're going to have to listen to those idiots down in Columbus try to claim a portion of the title.


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November 18th, 2012 at 11:19 AM | Even after losing to us?  (Score:3 Normal)
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Even after losing to us? 

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 2:11 AM | Not sure I get why you guys (Score:-1 Normal)
phork
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Not sure I get why you guys think Bama will roll ND, is it because they rolled you?  This is a serious question.  Bamas offense is not that good.  30th in rusing O, 70th in passing.  NDs defensive strength is against the run. 

Also, regardless of my hatred toward UM on gameday, you'd bet your ass that if positions were reversed I would be all over you guys beating the SEC.  Helps everyone not in the SEC, shuts up the SEC idiots as well.

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November 18th, 2012 at 8:58 AM | The 3 first round picks on (Score:3 Normal)
ghost
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The 3 first round picks on the offensive line might have something to do with it.  Those offensive stats are very misleading.  Most of Bama's games have been over at the half or after the 3rd quarter.  Not that this matters for the BCS at this point, but OK's performance yesterday against West Virginia yesterday makes beating OK look not that impressive at all.

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November 18th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | Bama Rolls ND (Score:3 Normal)
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For the following reasons:

  1. Bama's offensive line is good enough to consistently pick up the ND pass rush
  2. ND's secondary is the soft spot of their defense and Alabama's passing game is good enough to exploit that.
  3. ND's offense isn't anything to write home about
  4. Alabama's defense is...
  5. Saban >> Kelly

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 11:33 AM | Going only by the win-loss (Score:2 Normal)
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Going only by the win-loss column and just looking at the national stat numbers maybe you could make a case that ND has a chance, or will win.  But I think if you like, actually watch the games, and dig a little deeper, it's obvious why bama should be pretty heavily favored.

ND and bama have 1 common opponent.  Bama crushed us on a neutral site field.  ND eeked out a win at home after we turned the ball over 6 (!) times.  ND eeked out another win over a pathetic Purdue team.  Took 3 overtimes to beat an extremely weak Pitt team.  And barely edged an unranked BYU team that may be scrappy and good defensively but really shouldn't give a true #1 team much trouble.

Bama has rolled all similar opponents.  Yes, they struggled in death valley against LSU, but are you seriously going to ding them for that?  They had one loss where they were sleep walking at the beginning of the game, and the guy many have as their #1 Heisman candidate pulled a crazy win out.  Such is life.

But come on man, get serious here.

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November 18th, 2012 at 2:43 AM | The OP looks like a genius now (Score:2 Insightful)
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I remember when I first read this thread and agreed with other posters that the timing was too early as both games were at halftime. Now the original poster looks like a genius. Maybe be could get a prediction on the National Championship game itself?

Also, does Michigan beat Ohio next week?

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