Bacari will be the next head coach at UofD
Detroit and Michigan assistant Bacari Alexander are finalizing a deal, sources told ESPN.
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanESPN) April 20, 2016
approach to Michigan basketball.
Or if Michigan will continue to recruit shooters instead of big men, and teach them to play offense instead of defense.
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There's always some "turd" who thinks he knows more about basketball than John Beilein. While I admire your utter distaste for OSU, I really think the critics here should leave the coaching to the coaches.
Why would anyone talk about Michigan coaches on a Michigan blog?
April 21st, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^
netherparts. But just the tiniest bit of humility or self-awareness sometimes. . .
Good for him! Best of luck!
Thanks, coach!
April 20th, 2016 at 10:24 PM ^
sighting!
This could be a win-win for Michigan and BA. I think the staff at Michigan needs a shake up (hardly an original thought, I realize). And obviously it's great for BA to have the chance to be a head coach. I hope he or Coach Jordan do well enough to come back as Michigan's head coach at some point.
I don't think a shakeup is going to do squat. This is Beilein's show and if that isn't abundantly clear by now it never will be. For some spectacularly stupid reason offers will still be contingent on an academic tour after June 15th, we will still recruit stiffs in the post and guys with mid major recruiting profiles, and things like defense and rebounding will continue to be ignored on the floor.
Best of luck to both LaVall and BA. They did what they could in trying to influence Beilein, but the problems are too systemic and have now gone on with two different sets of assistants for me to think meaningful change is coming to this program in the areas it badly needs.
Contrasting how Harbaugh operates and how Beilein does makes me want to bash my head against the wall.
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That was SO 2 to 3 years ago. It's time for us to collectively rage at the machine that missed the NCAA tourney last year and barely qualified this year - without Caris. Fire JB! Offer scholarships to 7 graders! Rescind scholarships after missed dunks!
BTW, good luck BA. I, for one, appreciate your service.
April 21st, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
Let 'em leave drunk or hopped up on goofballs but buy those one-and-dones and--hell--buy 'em sheepskins, too! We didn't spend 200 years creating the 15th best university in the world not to leverage this sh*t for something!
Beilein will be living off those two years the rest of his career with some here. They are outliers in an otherwise ordinary career.
No one can sit here with a straight face and say they aren't concerned about some things in the basketball program right now. The mid major level recruiting is down right strange given the resources Beilein has available. The ineptness on defense and on the glass are astounding.
It's not like Beilein is one of the highest paid coaches in the country with a 100 million dollar basketball complex at his disposal. Oh wait.
I'm not the only one who feels this way, just look at the season ticket renewal list for the maize rage.
Look at the program pre-Beilein.
Now look at the program with Beilein.
Do you see a difference?
The fact that you think this program is in bad shape right now is a direct function of the high expectations that Beilein personally brought back to the program. "Ordinary career"? Do you remember anything at all pre-2007?
Why would I compare Beilein to the worst era in Michigan basketball history. Should I compare every football coach to the Rich Rod/Hoke years? Or should I compare them to the Schembechler, Moeller, Carr, etc years.
Michigan fell in the gutter because it made a bad coaching hire and because the AD was so far in the red it could do nothing to enhance the bottomless pit that was Crisler Arena. 100 million dollar facility later and a HC salary that next year will rank 6th in the country, excuse me for having expectations. How old are you? Do you not remember this program was a power house in the 80's and 90's?
Longevity. Win % wise he's doing worse than Frider, Fisher, Orr, etc.
...winning % in the big ten for each of those coaches. That might give you a better indication. Let me know what you find.
Either way, comparing JB to any other previous coach is irrelevant to how we perform now and going forward.
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Steve Fisher made 3 final 4's and won a national title. Who cares if he didn't win a Big Ten title. He finished 2nd twice, 3rd three times, and 5th, 6th, and 8th all one time. Compare that to Beilein who has finished 7th or worse 5 times in 9 years.
April 20th, 2016 at 11:55 PM ^
April 20th, 2016 at 11:11 PM ^
That "etc." is a crock of crap because it implies there is this huge list of coaches Beilein's win % is worse than. There is, of course, Osborne Cowles (who coached for two years), George Veenker (who coached for three), and E.J. Mather, who coached in the early '20s when the schedule included such luminaries as Oakland Motor Company, Detroit Athletic Club, and the Louisville YMHA.
So in an apples to apples comparison, there's Frieder, Fisher, and Orr, no "etc."
I needn't remind you that Orr, Frieder, and Fisher all had consecutive tenures, and therefore had no rebuilding job to do. And as you kindly pointed out, Beilein followed the worst era in Michigan basketball, so the first year was naturally more difficult than, say, Fisher, who literally inherited a national championship caliber team.
...and instead look forward. What we did in the past has little if anything to do with how we can be going forward. Using your logic, means Florida should have never become a football powerhouse. Same goes for MSU in basketball.
I give 2 shits about what we did 5, 10, or 15 years ago. Or what TA, BE, and SF did in the past. I see our program trending in the wrong direction, accepting mediocrity, and conceding dominance to MSU, OSU and Wisconsin. People like you use some historical benchmark to rationalize/accept the situation. It's so Un-Michigan.
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No one got better this year. He has to "coach up" everyone because his recruiting classes look like Oakland's on paper.
April 20th, 2016 at 10:48 PM ^
For MAAR, I guess stats-wise he improved. Still seemed like the same player (but a good one at that)
I'm not giving you Donnal. He went from horrendously unplayable to just somewhat unplayable with flashes of good. He had such a low base to start, there was no reason he shouldn't have improved just by showing up.
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April 20th, 2016 at 11:19 PM ^
April 21st, 2016 at 12:11 AM ^
When you tried to compare donnal to McGary. I know you qualified it, but it's ridiculous to even try to rationalize Donnal by using McGary. McGary was drafted, Donnal will be lucky to play in Haifa, Israel.
Furthermore, saying Donnal lead the team in blocks means absolutely nothing ...since Michigan was almost last in the nation in blocks.
I will agree that we improved from the previous year, but not much overall. I know the record reflected otherwise, but this year's team was some of the worst basketball I have seen in a LONG time.
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April 21st, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^
April 21st, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^
He was not. He showed some things from time to time. He is not a serviceable big in the bigten by any means.
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I think we found which account Pat Beilein posts under. Holy delusion.
April 21st, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^
1. Who were the 2 walk-ons that started at PG this year? Perhaps you are talking about a different year that we made the tournament. I don't know where you are getting this stat.
2. No one is really debating that JB can develop talent, because let's be honest, JB has no choice if he wants to keep his job- he's an average recruiter at best. So he rarely recruits high ceiling type of guys anyway . That's the issue - even after squeezing every bit of talent out of this players, they rarely amount to high impact players. The question is whether JB can develop the talent at a greater pace than his cohorts and do so to account for the supreme talent the top members of the b10 have, like Indiana, MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin.
3. I can't remember who said this, but our trend against top 25 teams over the past few years is something like 5-30 (I don't have the exact number). Plus all that momentum against Izzo has absolutely swung the opposite way, because that's what happens to good (not elite) coaches like JB when they face better coaches and recruiters. JB can't really beat Wisconsin anyway.
4. Except for maybe XS, we really shouldn't expect any incoming freshman to contribute. But we'll see what happens here. I could be wrong.
5. I honestly think with the exception of Wagner, the current team has his it development ceiling.
6. I'm not alone in my thinking. I think I read recently that season and single game tickets are at a 7 year low.
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April 20th, 2016 at 10:41 PM ^
You are using Lee and Merritt and examples of JB's development chops?!? I don't have the stats in front of me, but they started out of necessity the first year of JB (where we won 10 games). Then next year (tourney year), I can't remember them ever starting (I could be wrong). We had stu and zack at the helm if I remember correctly.
There are better examples. And yes, someone may be a good developer of talent and still hit a ceiling - a ceiling that other coaches can't hit. The key is recruiting players with a high ceiling. JB typically doesn't.
Another thing, you seem to think another year means players will automatically be better, while ignoring that under JB we were at our best when we were very young (and talented). I believe we were the youngest team in the tourney the year we made the finals. Experience isn't as strong factor in basketball compared to football.
With regards to MSU. It's not about the one class, it's about us losing 4 straight to them with little indication that it will change. And about that class: it's fucking good, really good. We'll see what izzo does, but I think it wishful thinking on your part to think he won't deploy that talent to the fullest extent by the end of the year. Besides, even if he uses them sparingly, they still will field a better team that plays a physical style of basketball that we are incompetent of challenging.
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April 20th, 2016 at 11:48 PM ^
April 21st, 2016 at 12:27 AM ^
...but if you want to use those 2 as shining examples of JB's development abilities 8 years ago, then more power to you.
And only a very few people think JB can't develop talent. So you can stop that crusade.
And again, using horford and Morgan as seniors as some sort of indication of how well we perform against MSU. When we were beating them, we were a super young and talented team. Being a senior meant very little. Izzo is almost as good of a talent developer as JB (some may say better), but is a far better recruiter than JB. So maybe instead of losing by 20 (or whatever it was) to MSU, we'll lose by 10. Improvement I guess.
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April 21st, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
April 21st, 2016 at 12:13 PM ^
...the definition of "fine" to you is much different that mine.
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April 21st, 2016 at 10:06 AM ^
those two years were an aberration. recruiting got worse after that run, not better. As did defense and post man play. Mitch McGary is not walking through that door anytime soon.
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i will miss his tweet blitzes
best of luck ba