B1G/Big East Challenge in 2015-16?
The B1G and Big East have scheduled a joint presser tomorrow at 12:30 at Madison Square Garden.
This is blowing up all over Twitter.
Speculation is that they will announce the B1G/Big East Challenge to begin in 2015-16. I wonder if this will replace the B1G/ACC?
Joining to form a super conference
If it will replace the B1G/ACC challenge, that is a massive step down for the B1G.
Again, this is speculation from Twitter, so take it for what it is, but the word coming out is that this event with the Big East would possibly be more like a tip-off series played close to the beginning of the season. The rumor is that the timing is not supposed to conflict with the Big Ten / ACC Challenge and that this series will continue.
Umm heck no on replacing the ACC - the Big East has Villanova and a bunch of nobodies nowadays - Georgetown, Creighton, I mean ugh. 20 years ago there would have been a bunch of decent teams such as Georgetown in its heyday, DePaul used to run out some great teams, Seton Hall, etc - but now --- it's a shadow of its old self.
The Big 10 and ACC match up very well in terms of top end talent and depth.
I bet that they finally found Waldo.
Fooled again. That was just a beach ball next to a barber shop pole.
B1G/ACC and B1G/Big East.
I actually don't know.
I for one look forward to NW/DePaul battling for Chicago respect..........DePaul is still in big east right?
New Big Ten/Big East hoops series, to be announced Monday, will be tipoff/first week event. Called Gavitt Games, honoring late Dave Gavitt.
— Brian Hamilton (@BrianHamiltonSI) May 4, 2014
Big Ten-ACC Challenge (presumably) expected to continue despite new Big East-Big Ten series. Timing doesn’t conflict.
— Brian Hamilton (@BrianHamiltonSI) May 4, 2014
Will be played on-campus, per this article:
According to multiple reports, the Big Ten and Big East conferences will begin annual on-campus basketball season tip-off events starting during the 2015-16 season. The event, coined the "Gavitt Games", will honor the late Hall of Famer Dave Gavitt, a long time head coach at Providence.
I like. Anything that gives us more exciting non-conference matchups is always a plus to me.
but I don't find a lot of excitement from these opponents
Creighton, Butler, DePaul, Marquette, Xavier, Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, St. John's, Providence.
As opposed to Houston Baptist?
There's a lot of history in many of those programs, even if they aren't top 10 teams right this minute.
Hope the first one has Michigan-Seton Hall for the nostalgia
I think this could be big for RPI rankings and what not.
I like the idea of us (the big ten us) smacking around the Big east as a warm up for holding court with the ACC. Shit, I would schedule a big 12 weekend too.
jdon
The Big Ten and the ACC are both making moves to increase their presence in the northeast and mid-Atlantic and this is just the latest step in that contest.
Both conference have added programs in the area since the early 1990s through expansion with the Big Ten adding Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland while the ACC has added Boston College, Syracuse and Pittsburgh (while losing Maryland to the Big Ten). Notre Dame also has its unique cultural presence that plays in the urban northeast as well. Now both conference are looking to fill the void that's been left with the Big East's contraction to a non-football conference.
I fully expect we'll see Big Ten teams playing in New York City (St. John's), Philadelphia (Villanova) and Washington, DC (Georgetown) on a regular basis. Michigan has been a regular fixture in New York these past years and I'm sure that's going to continue as well.
The conference has also announced it will have offices in New York City and Washington DC, so you can see how intent they are to "grow the product" in the northeast and mid-Atlantic. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Big Ten men's and women's basketball tournaments end up on the East Coast on occasion as well.
The Big Ten is also positioning itself for its media deals for football and basketball that will begin negotiations in the fall of 2015. The two sets of challenges against the ACC and now the Big East is exactly the kind of programming the networks want to have in the non-conference portion of the basketball season.
The other schools in the Big East are Creighton (Omaha, Nebraska), Marquette (Milwaukee, WI), Depaul (Chicago, IL), Butler (Indianapolis, IN) Xavier (Cincinnati, Ohio), Providence (Rhode Island), and Seton Hall (South Orange, New Jersey).
The Ann Arbor New article is talking about having a number of regional games. I live in the DC area and I'd be shocked if there's a Maryland-Georgetown matchup as long as the elder John Thompson is alive (insert long story here). If that does come about, it would certainly be a boost for the Terrapin fans because it's a game they've wanted for years.
Or its to lay the ever so subtle and secret groundwork for the B1G/ACC Superconference when Superconferences come to the surface, or if the major 5 break away from the NCAA
from an SI article:
Big East founder and basketball Hall of Famer Dave Gavitt long lamented that college basketball season enjoyed a celebratory conclusion, the Final Four, but lacked an emphatic beginning.
"He looked at Opening Day in baseball as special," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said of Gavitt, who passed away in 2011. "He thought we could do much better."
On Monday, the Big East and Big Ten will announce the formation of the Dave Gavitt Tipoff Games, a four-day, eight-game season-opening challenge between the conferences beginning in 2015-16. The event will take place each November from Tuesday through Friday of the first full week of the season.
The parties will announce an eight-year deal at a news conference in New York. ESPN and the Big Ten Network and Fox Sports 1, the Big East's partner, will televise games at the respective league's home venues. Each will host four games.
Will split the conference into two separate divisions
The Big Ten Big Ten Division
The Big Ten Big East Division
So much NYC marketshare
Syracuse thinks they're a lot more relevant in NYC than they are
The fact is, NYC's love of college sports begins and ends with the Big East tournament
All those empty seats at the Garden this past year disagree.
Have you ever been to a Syracuse game in the Garden?
If they're really intending for this to be a 'splash' to start the season, I have to imagine they'll usually have the top team in it especially in its first season. They'll want to start it off with a bang
However, Jim Delaney has never let a number mismatch stop him from a payday.
There will be only eight games per season. So it really doesn't matter that the conferences have different numbers of schools. All that changes is how often each school will participate. Over the eight years the series will be played, each Big Ten team will participate a minimum of four times while each Big East team will participate a minimum of six times.
How could they set this up by "power rankings" for next year - umm...
- Wiscy - Villanova
- UM - Creighton (will Creighton be any good without their lottery pick , I don't know)
- OSU - Providence
- MSU - Xavier
- Nebraska - St John's
- Iowa - Marquette
- Maryland - Georgetown (D.C. battle)
- Minnesota - Seton Hall
- Indiana - Butler (woo hoo battle of Indiana)
- Northwestern - DePaul (battle of Chicago)
Then the Big East runs out of teams, leaving PSU and Illinois out.
Not a very sexy calendar but yes better than playing Southeast Oklahoma School of Music.
they're going to try to base it on geographical location and competitiveness. Butler makes a ton of sense in terms of location, but they have struggled since Brad Stevens left. Xavier also makes sense because of Michigan-Ohio location and Xavier is bringing in quality recruiting classes.
http://www.umhoops.com/2014/05/04/report-big-east-big-ten-begin-season-tip-series/
Going to be interesting to see the matchups for 2015-2016 season. The bottom 4 B1G teams won't have that luxury of opening up the season against the Big East.
My first guess:
Wisconsin-Marquette
Michigan-Butler
OSU-Xavier
Nebraska-Creighton
Illinois-DePaul
Maryland-Georgetown
MSU-Villanova
Iowa- Providence
Minnesota-St. John's
Rutgers-Seton Hall
There are some natural matchups like Wisconsin-Marquette, Nebraska-Creighton, Illinois-DePaul, Maryland-Georgetown, Rutgers-Seton Hall, but expect to see some matchup that will go by competitiveness.
The Bucks won't play anyone in-state in basketball ....... despite there generally being some pretty good college hoops in the State of Ohio.
Cincinnati, Xavier, Dayton, Ohio U, Kent State, Toledo, you name em.
OSU vs. In-State match-ups generally only occur if forced. Like in the NCAA this year. The last time OSU played Xavier was in the 2nd Round of the 2007 tournament. The Buckeyes only survived that one because of a no-call flagrant foul call against Greg Odem in the game's final seconds.
Georgetown and Maryland ... they also refuse to play each other because of long-held grudges ... as a poster up-stream said, maybe once John Thompson dies.
if they pick this matchup. They will want both OSU-Xavier and Georgetown-Maryland games.
Other than politics, looks like we found out the real reason ohio doesn't schedule in-state teams.
THE University of Dayton.
People here and around the country forget what originally made the Big East great. The lack of football and the ability to keep northeastern city kids local caused its original success in the 80's. The conference became a national laughing stock because of what happened with its football programs but that was never supposed to be the emphasis. Now they have a chance to remake themselves in the image that the great Dave Gavitt always had in mind. I believe they will more than hold their own against the B1G. Some of the opinions on this thread are shortsighted and don't show a solid understanding of the history of the sport or where it's headed.
Edit: For context I should add that I'm a die hard Providence fan.