Just plain awful. But who cares. Beilein is love, Beilein is life
B1G Refs Open Thread
It was horrible, but makes the win that much more satisfying. I wanna go Richard Sherman on Sparty and the refs right now.
It's like the game turned around then. Another great job by Beilein and his TEAM
Everyone should complain to the conference office. That was a disgrace to the game, the kids, coaches, and the fans. Just fucking awful, awful, garbage.
Terrible, terrible, terrible job by the refs.
But tremendous, tremendous, tremendous job playing through it (despite a few moments where Michigan players almost snapped at bad calls) and keeping their heads together.
The final foul shots were pretty even, but only because MSU had to foul at the end. Insane that UM has gone into Kohl and Breslin and emerged with wins given how crappy the officiating tends to be toward road teams there. Great week.
the big ten in general sticks the away team... At this point we have beat wiscy, state, and minny on the road.
As bad as they were, Beilein got on them and got us some calls in Breslin that normally go Izzo's way. Hail Beilein.
I agree. State was getting some ridiculous calls. Finally, late in the 2nd half the officiating was more even-handed. I have to believe Beilein's attitude had something to do with that. Izzo whines and complains even when the calls are going his way.
The Spike timeout may have been the most egregious ref "mistake" I have ever seen.
hope we get a gif of that ref standing right over Spike and not giving the timeout
It was pretty bad at times for 32 minutes (though not as bad as many here might think) The second half for 10 minutes was the worst in my mind. Then, around the 6-8 minute remaing mark I think they started to make a few calls that should have been done the whole game. I also think they finished the game well in the last 2 minutes in calling stuff that needed to be called i.e. instead of letting a mugging happen yet calling it a steal.
It sucks that, in that what I consider good should just be par for the course, but it's not, we know this. It was a pretty hard game to watch in regards to the officiating and how Sparty was able to do things we weren't. Sparty is good defensively, lost in all this talk is that fact, and in a way, it's too bad.
It's awfully hard to say if a player is good or bad defensively if he's allowed to grab ahold of who he's defending, hand check, etc. Michigan State was down a pair of starters, but at the same time I don't think we got an honest representation of their skills.
I thought I was watching two sets of refs, what was call on Michigan was completely different than what was called on State. The Big Ten should be embarrassed.
I thought i was watching two sets of refs, what was call on Michigan was completely different than what was called os State. The Big Ten should be embarrassed.
at the Breslin. What more could we ask for.
2014 is unbelievable.
to slapped down with some suspensions or sumthing...
They were pretty terrible, which makes this win that much more satisfying.
i was drunk anyways....
Ridiculous. Plain ridiculous. What MSU was allowed to get away with on some of Michigan's drives to the hoop in the second half would be illegal in 38 states.
Morgan had maybe two real fouls the whole game.
I agree. Morgan got it worse than anyone else.
I wish I had a picture of it, but early in the game there was a shot of Beilein and Morgan (maybe Horford?) arguing with the refs about grabbing jerseys and Morgan's jersey had a huge rip right down the middle. I saw that and knew we were in for a long night with some shitty officiating.
I was baffled by the replay showing Spartan defenders getting nothing but arm and body to strip the ball away from Walton and Dickie V. calling it a clean steal. At least the refs got that one right.
Was a GM teacher at State. He is not unbiased.
to have been in the top five of comments that Dickie V. had that pissed me off the most...
I wanted to climb through my tv on that one and pimp slap that senile old man.
Is Izzo seriously complaining about calls? Unbelievable.
He said he had to take poor precious Keith out of the game because of the technical.
My throat hurts from yelling at the refs. Those guys sucked!!!
and never in control. I've never seen Beilein that angry.
That is triumph in the face of adversity - contending with a good opposing team and the refs.
I watched those multiple times, and just didn't see it. I also saw the time out signal from far away yet the red standing over him couldn't see it? I also don't understand what Morgan did to all these refs. He gets all ball on a block early in the game yet state was able to maul michigan players driving. Very frustrating. A testament to both the team and Beilein for winning and overcoming everything.
I was wondering if someone with more time on their hands than I could put together a youtube video of all the terrible calls during this game, for both sides.
The refs were complete garbage. I can't even count how many terrible calls were missed and ignored
They asked Morgan at the end of his interview tonight when his shorts got ripped. His reply, "probably on one of the plays where they called a foul on me, but whatever." Hilarious but probably true.
Good for him. I'm still pissed.
did everything they could to even the playing field for MSU's injured big men. Morgan got robbed tonight. If he sneezed, they called a foul.
What's more hilarious is Sparty fans bitching about the refs on RCMB.
Its just amazing what goes for referring these days. As a perfect example, look at Morgan's fifth foul. Not only was that not a foul, but I'm 100% certain Morgan didn't even touch anyone. Its one thing to let the 50/50 calls go to the home team but to just make up fouls or ignore blatant contact is another thing.
I fart in their general direction.
For the milliionth time.
There are no such thing as B1G conference basketball officials.
College basketball officials are not tied to conferences like they are in football, hockey, and other sports. They work (usually, more or less) regionally.
If they wan to call a fair game. Everythinng was a foul agiainst us, but good physical, B1G basketball with them. Call a fair game, forgodsakes.
The refs were awful tonight. Michigan really got shafted, however I will admit that MsU got screwed once or twice but overall the refs were probally about worth +6 points for MSU.
Maybe this is not unusual, but early-ish in 2nd half, after Harris (IIRC) hit a driving layup and tumbled/rolled across the baseline as his shot went in, M quickly inbounded the ball and Walton pushed quickly back the other way (since they had numbers with Harris having to recover). When they showed a replay of this (shortly thereafter), the ref on the baseline reached out and helped Harris get to his feet.
Nice gesture and all, but, it struck me as quite odd that a ref would intervene like that (aren't they supposed to officiate and not assist?). Or is this not unusual and just a nice gesture?
I'd bet that Harris is related to him or a good friend of his family....
I wondered about that too. I have never seen that happen before ... I thought it kind of odd that a ref would get involved like that. Usually that is a no-no, regardless of the player, location, or speed of the game.
I've seen refs help guys up before, but never in a fast break situation.
Yes, that was my thought as well. If it were a dead ball situation or if the ref had concerns for the player's safety (e.g., player collided with camera operator), then I have no problem with the referree intervening (and, if play was still live, blow the whistle to stop play to attend to injured player). But, this was neither. And, what's worse this was a situation where M was trying to exploit an advantage as a result of Harris taking the off-balance shot, and, consequently, being unable to quickly get back on D. That seems, at best, to be poor judgement on the part of the referree. At worst, well, let's not go there.