B1G Home vs Road conference game records

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March 7th, 2013 at 5:27 AM
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Drill
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B1G Home vs Road conference game records

So I was curious how each team in the B1G was doing Home vs Away, and decided to do a quick compilation of some data.  Here are resulting charts (H means home team won, A means away team won, N means that game does not happen, and U means it's an upcoming game still):

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And a chart with just the records by team:

 

As most of us are aware, Michigan is the only team with a perfect record at home in the B1G so far this year.  For as bad as Michigan has played on the road this year, Minnesota has the biggest difference in win percentage for home/road games.  Michigan comes in at #2, and Iowa at #3.

The average B1G team wins 64% of their home games to just 36% of their away games.  I'd be curious to see how that compares to other conferences, but I'm too lazy right now to try to dig up the data for that.

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March 7th, 2013 at 7:07 AM | KenPom actually tracks this (Score:2 Interesting)
heznfire
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Nice work with the individual-team breakdowns. 

In regards to how the Big Ten stacks up relative to other conferences, KenPom actually tracks this stat. The Big Ten is 9th out of 33 conferences in Home Win Pct. 

The top conference is the Great West Conference, which, with only five members, has had only 18 conference games thus far, at 72.2%. The second-best conference in Home Win Pct. is the Mountain West Conference with 70.6% (48 of 68). 

March 7th, 2013 at 7:08 AM | Well done. (Score:4 Normal)
Mr. Yost
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Very informative!

Sucks Michigan isn't 6-3 on the road like they should be...I know, I know, "let it go."

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:09 AM | I agree with you that we (Score:3 Normal)
Soulfire21
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I agree with you that we definitely missed opportunities on the road, however, we could very well have easily lost to OSU and MSU at home, and be sitting at a 6-2 home record as well.  All things considered we're about right where we should be record-wise, given our play (my opinion, of course).

HAIL.

March 7th, 2013 at 10:42 AM | 7-2 (Score:2)
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7-2. GD Wisconsin...

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

March 7th, 2013 at 7:14 AM | Some Select Numbers... (Score:5 Normal)
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First and foremost, this is a good piece of analysis by the OP. Thanks for sharing it.

Some select conference cumulative win / loss percentages from my own numbers, for comparison:

ACC - 58-38 at home (0.604 win percentage, or 0.396 on the road)

Big East - 89-55 at home (0.618 win percentage, or 0.382 on the road)

SEC - 67-29 at home (0.698 win percentage, or 0.302 on the road)

Big XII - 56-34 at home (0.622 win percentage, or 0.378 on the road)

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March 7th, 2013 at 7:34 AM | I'm not sure the SEC should even count. that (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not sure the SEC should even count. that conference is awful at basketball.

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March 7th, 2013 at 7:38 AM | Exactly... (Score:1 Normal)
Mr. Yost
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...which is why it's funny to me that people discredit how good Gonzaga is this year because of their conference. But last year everyone KNEW Kentucky was #1 even though they didn't play ANYONE for 3 months in SEC play.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:50 AM | doh (Score:2)
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Last year's Kentucky would obliterate this year's Gonzaga. So thats not a useful comparison.

March 7th, 2013 at 8:56 AM | I suspect a crappy (Score:2)
jmblue
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I suspect a crappy (relatively speaking) SEC is still much better than the West Coast Conference.  Not to mention that UK laid waste to a lot of good nonconference teams last year.

March 7th, 2013 at 7:40 AM | One other field that would (Score:2 Normal)
bluebyyou
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One other field that would make the data even more informative would be the average  number of fouls called against each team for home and away games. Assuming, as I suspect there is, a marked bias in favor of home teams, it would tell a lot about the quality or potential lack of objectivity of the refs. 

March 7th, 2013 at 12:34 PM | Add to that - charges vs blocking fouls (Score:1)
markh100
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I would love to see charges vs blocking fouls stats on a home vs road basis. And I'd like to see how those numbers compare in the B1G vs other leagues.

March 7th, 2013 at 9:10 AM | Look at schedule.... (Score:2)
AC1997
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A large part of Michigan's road record is schedule.  We didnt get to play Iowa or Nebraska on the road.  Still.....a half court shot away from a title lead and big road win.....grr.....

 

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:22 AM | nicely done! (Score:4 Normal)
gustave ferbert
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what sticks out to me is that Michigan is the best at home.  Indiana is the best on the road!  Yikes.  Gonna be an interesting game coming up.

March 7th, 2013 at 10:30 AM | I'd definitely be (Score:1)
Soulfire21
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I'd definitely be worried.

Indiana's Road Games:

@Iowa, @Penn State, @Northwestern, @Purdue, @Illinois (L), @#10 Ohio State, @#4 MSU, @Minnesota (L).  They beat the good teams on the road.

Michigan's Home Games:

Iowa, Nebraska, Purdue, Northwestern, #10 Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, #9 MSU

Basically, while we are undefeated at home, it comes against pretty bad competition, and the wins over Ohio State and MSU come by a combined 3 points.

What also interests me is that whoever wins -- us or Indiana -- will likely determine POY awards for either Burke or Olidapo.

HAIL.

March 7th, 2013 at 10:36 AM | Yea I was (Score:1)
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just about to point that out. Indiana has a strong 6-2 record on the road in the best conference in the country. We're undefeated at home. Something has to give.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:40 AM | DP (Score:1)
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Damn galaxy phone...

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:32 AM | What also matters a lot is (Score:4 Informative)
GOLBOGM
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What also matters a lot is who palys which teams only once:

 



  JUST PLAY AT HOME JUST PLAY ON ROAD
ILLINOIS IND & PSU IOWA & MSU
INDIANA NEB & WISC ILL & NW
IOWA ILL & MSU MICH & OSU
MICHIGAN IOWA & NEB MINN & WISC
MICHIGAN ST ILL & NW IOWA & PSU
MINNESOTA MICH & PSU OSU & PURD
NEBRASKA NW & PURD IND & MICH
NORTHWESTERN IND & WISC MSU & NEB
OHIO ST IOWA & MINN PSU & PURD
PENN ST MSU & OSU ILL & MINN
PURDUE MINN & OSU NEB & WISC
WISCONSIN MICH & PURD IND & NW

 

Obviously it is nice to only play top teams once- but what is also key is whether you play top teams at home or on the road if you only play them once.  Essentially for just home games you want tough opponents (meaning you played them only once and at home) and for just road you want weak opponents (so you still have a good chance to win even though you get an uneven split with them).

For example, we played Wisconsin only once- but it was on the road- so that is a huge advantage for Wisconsin- had that been changed the whole title race could be different obviously.

TITLE CONTENDERS:

Indiana didn't get a chance to avenge its loss to Illinois but didn't have to play inWisconsin- a tough place to play.

Michigan didn't play Iowa and Nebraska on the road- would have been nice to skip on tougher teams.  We did not play Minnesota or Wisconsin at home- both solid teams (one hurt us one did not).

Michigan State didn't have to travel to Illinois or Northwestern- like Michigan two weaker teams.  MSU also got lucky having road games without homes against Iowa and Penn State- also weaker teams.  MSU did have to play all tough teams twice. 

OSU hosted Iowa and Minnesota without road games- also two weaker teams.  They got luck playing PSU and Purdue only on the road however.

Wisconsin had it pretty good- skipping out on playing us and Purdue on the road- and playing road games against Indiana without being at home (which in liekly would have been a loss anyway) and NW.

So which top teams avoided other top teams?

Indiana skipped WISC on the road

Michigan skipped WISC at home

MSU skipped nobody

OSU skipped nobody

WISC skipped MICH on the road and Indiana at home

OVERALL:

WISC had the best schedule all things considered, MSU and OSU had the toughest, with MICH being slightly tougher than Indiana- as far as the schedule against top-5 teasm goes.

However, if we beat Indiana the co-champs will have 5-losses, meaning every team blew some serious chances.  Yes half-court at Wisconsin blows, but all the other teams can make very similar arguements.  MSU and OSU played all the top teams twice, Indiana blew it against Illinois in not worse of fashion than us against Wisconsin (yes home vs. road makes a big difference though).  Well... I guess Wisconsin has very little to complain about... but let's hope MSU beats them at home tonight- I'd rather split the title with MSU than Wisconsin this year.

 

 

March 7th, 2013 at 12:17 PM | Indiana blew it against (Score:3 Normal)
jmblue
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Indiana blew it against Illinois in not worse of fashion than us against Wisconsin (yes home vs. road makes a big difference though).

Huh? Both their loss to Illinois and ours to Wisconsin were on the road.

March 7th, 2013 at 12:22 PM | Yep stupid mistake- it was on (Score:2)
GOLBOGM
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Yep stupid mistake- it was on the road...

My main point was every team has "choked" to some degree- or can argue they should be better than 5-losses.  Our fan base is quick to say- stupid PSU game, or stupid half-court shot, hell we should be the champs- but other teams have similar gripes in my opinion

March 7th, 2013 at 3:29 PM | Wow, did Iowa and Nebraska (Score:2)
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Wow, did Iowa and Nebraska get screwed on the single play road match-ups this year.

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March 7th, 2013 at 4:20 PM | In a way, yes, but OTOH, (Score:2)
jmblue
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In a way, yes, but OTOH, playing U-M, OSU and/or IU only once is a break overall.  They probably weren't going to be favored even at home against those teams. 

March 7th, 2013 at 11:56 AM | Funny how, in my opinion (Score:1)
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Funny how, in my opinion anyways, the two teams with the "biggest homecourt advantage" have 2 losses at their respective courts.

March 7th, 2013 at 12:13 PM | Minnesota truly is the most (Score:3 Normal)
jmblue
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Minnesota truly is the most Amakeresque team in the league.  7-2 at home and 1-7 on the road?  Sounds familiar.

 

March 7th, 2013 at 12:49 PM | I've noticed that Indiana (Score:2)
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I've noticed that Indiana seems very comfortable on the road. We will have to change that somehow.

March 7th, 2013 at 12:50 PM | Home teams coming on late (Score:2)
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Early in the B1G season, I was surprised to see the home teams right at .500.   That was late January, 40-50 games into the schedule (you know, when Michigan was 3-1 on the road).  Since then home teams have been tearing it up.

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