...then Chryst
...then Riley
Next question.
Can't get past Harbaugh misspelled. That's all I can focus on.
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For year 1 Chryst should have the most wins based on schedule and talent. Harbaugh and Riley will probably match with 8 or 9 wins each. In the long haul I think all three might be elite coaches. Chryst is a Wisconsin guy who knows their system and Harbaugh is Harbaugh. Riley should do wonders with better talent and more exposure at Nebraska
I'm really not sold on him. He seems like a Brady Hoke "this guy just gets it" type of hire. He'll talk up Wisconsin, recruit decent, but never get it done on the field in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong. The Big Ten West needs a strong Wisconsin and Nebraska to keep up with Harbaugh, Meyer, Dantonio, and Franklin in the East.
Different with Chryst and Hoke is that Chryst was a OC at Wiscy when they were successful and made that run with Bert.
He does know the program but also was a huge part of making Wiscy what it is today.
This year I'd say Chryst and Riley probably have more wins simply because they are in the crappy west.
Doesn't matter, Chryst is taking over a solid program. Hoke took over a team that was shaky, needed transition to a different offense. Had Hoke taken over for Carr he might still be the head coach
That's laughable
You aren't really serious in thinking that Hoke would still be at Michigan if he had taken over for Carr. RR got a decimated team with no QB and almost no upperclassmen thanks to transfers. Hoke got a team that won 11 games even as square pegs being forced into round holes.
Your admiration of Hoke is, uh, admirable...
To follow up to this it was hoke's brutal coaching that lost us the msu and Iowa games that year. Both games he tried forcing denard under center for the majority of the game and expected him to pass so much instead of keeping us on the shotgun spread the majority of the game.
Next joke please Mr Seinfeld.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Can we not throw Franklin's creepy ass in that group until he wins? His resume isn't even close to the other three.
Unless you consider 6-6 seasons as great years, Chryst doesn't have a lot to show either.
The three I was referencing are Harbaugh, Meyer and Dantonio.
Chryst isn't a Wisconsin guy. He is a Barry Alvarez guy. The latter is more important.
Chryst(10 wins), Harbaugh(9) then Riley(8)
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Chryst 9 wins, Harbaugh 8 wins, Riley 8 wins. Harbaugh just doesnt have the horses yet.
the game of football is played with people.
Why the hostility toward this dude? Seems like a straight shooter.
even considering Alabama will probably club them in game 1, their next toughest game is @Nebraska and then....@Maryland? Iowa? @Minnesota?
They should get to 9-3 easy and might get to 11-1 without much difficulty
OTOH we have @Utah, BYU, MSU, @PSU & OSU. Our schedule is just way tougher
HARBAUGH, but I think Chrystal has 1-2 more wins than Harbaugh
When Harbaugh is an option..Harbaugh is the answer
In all matters of life.
Marital problems?....Harbaugh as therapist
Car broke down? Harbaugh can fix it
Need a 5 star meal prepared for your anniversary date? harbaugh's on it.
Always choose Harbaugh
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Heart says Harbaugh, head says Chryst. Harbaugh's an objectively better coach, but Wisconson has more talent (based on prior performance) and a MUCH easier schedule. 5 years from now though, Harbaugh has significantly more wins.
True, but talent does not ALWAYS mean wins. Coaching goes a long way.
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I feel like I've seen this somewhere
Yup. That is the definition of the Hoke era of Michigan football.
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This year, Chryst. I think he'll do good things at Wiscy both short and long-term. Eclipsed by Harbaugh long-term, of course.
Riley, well, I think the Huskers are about to find out just how effective Pelini was and how much they're going to miss him. I guess I won't be shocked if the Huskers hit 9 wins, but I really think 7 is more likely purely based on the coaching change.
Made all the difference. A feline that capable is not easily replaced.
Urban :(
I say Harbaugh. No one else really has a QB either, so adv. Harbaugh.
Wisconsin never has QBs
Mr. Russell Wilson scoffs at this notion (I know, a 1 year rental QB). Tolzien actually had some good years, and Brooks Bollinger was a pain in the side for many years, though. It's not Quarterback U by any stretch of the imagination (Running Back U, or O-Line U?).
Who was that Wiscy QB who got his throat crushed after a play? Scorgi or something..?
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Jim Sorgi in 2003 got choked out by Robert Reynolds from OSU. Wisconsin still won even though Anthony Davis was injured and Sorgi was out the remainder of the game with bruised vocal chords and a damaged trachea.
Come on. This cannot even be an honest debate. Harbaugh by a mile.
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He's in the 'freshman' season of his 8th $5 million/year extension.
Never understood why he gets paid so much?? Also never understood why Illinois SUCKS?? Throw 5 mil at any coach at a major program and he'll come running
Probably Chryst, because he has an easier schedule (even with Bama), and has inherited a far more stable, successful team in Wisconsin than what Michigan or Nebraska are right now.
That being said, Harbaugh is definitely the best option for long term, high level success. Wisconsin has been good, but unable to get over the hump since Ron Dayne was on the field. And Mike Riley accomplished next to nothing at Oregon State.
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Are any of the other rookie coaches Harbaugh's? If not, Harbaugh.
Harbaugh.
Hate to say it but Riley and Nebraska. Easy West schedule, Wiscy at home will be electric. Tough non-con games in Miami and BYU but I say they go 1-1. Lose at home to MSU. 10-2, 9-3 season is very plausible
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1) Jim Harbaugh
2) Jay Harbaugh
3) Chryst
4) Riley
As others have pointed out, if the schedules were equal, Harbaugh comes out ahead. But the schedules aren't equal. Wisconsin does open against Alabama, but should win easily in the rest of the OOC schedule. Then they get the other B1G west teams and their crossover games are with Rutgers and Maryland. Nebraska plays BYU as the one OOC that should be difficult for them (Miami looks to have another mediocre team this year) and do have to play MSU in one of their crossover games, Rutgers in the other.
If Michigan were playing either Nebraska's or Wisconsin's schedule, I would have them at 10-11 wins. But Harbaugh doesn't get those schedules. I think the liklihood is that Michigan will have 8 or 9 wins. Nebraska and Wisconsin should be able to each win 9 games.
I still can't believe Harbaugh is really our coach. Went to the spring game, saw him, and it was like a celebrity guest coach. Won't believe it for real until probably half time at the Utah game.
That said, Harbaugh will have the most wins of the three this year.
In college football obviously the right coach is almost everything. Three schools with major upgrades means a better conference. The pendulum is swinging back.
I think Nebraska and Wisconsin had slight downgrades. I thought both of theses schools could of landed bigger names to coach their program. Chryst I can understand, even though he has not accomplished anything as a head coach. Riley had a decent run earlier in his career but since has been average at best.
Chryst is an upgrade?
uhhhh
Actually, this is more of a mixed bag. Harbaugh was the home run hire (upgrade), Chryst was the understandable hire (willing to concede), and Riley was the WTF hire (no).