You're getting banned anyway, but I'll use a point to neg you on principle.
Austin White thread: completely unacceptable
As can be noticed by this post being a reply to someone else, you might pick up on the hint that several posts might be missing from this thread, especially to those handles registered to msu.edu addresses. If something doesn't make sense, that is why.
Brian is getting banned!
Now Sparty, run along, and go play with your best friend, mediocrity.
is kind-of akin to reading Garfield w/o Garfield.
Are you quoting someone here or just being a dick AND ignorant of the use of blockquotes?
This was sorely needed. Jumping the gun before something like that is verified could end up hurting someone who is still on the team and working his ass off. As I started to read the thread (until I got tired of it), my first thought was "what if we just got punked?" Not to mention that I have heard from a "reliable source" that his parents read mgb daily.
It's like one of my favorite signs:
"Please do not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling."
Yes, that's why.
You're getting banned becaused nobody likes you. The rest is just gravy.
Can I get some biscuits with that gravy?
One thing I've never liked about those that change the name to "Greater Internet Dickwad Theory" is that they lose the meaning of Gabriel's GIFT.
I appreciate the effort to stifle the bashing of student athletes. I would further appreciate it if language that denigrates anyone based on sexual orientation, gender, age, race, or is supportive of any other "ism," was moderated as well. I love this blog because the vast majority of the comments made are thoughtful, intelligent, and well (enough) informed (or at least amusing and only slightly offensive to people who are sensible). My thanks to everyone who makes these contributions.
P.s. all these damn rumors are making it hard to sleep at night!
[Delicately phrased statement.]
What about Spartyism or Bucknutism? Can I comment on those people with extreme prejudice?
The Tate transfer rumor threads turned into a misogynistic straw man attack. The JT Turner stuff got bad. People have called Will Campbell and Tate fat and lazy without any support evidence. And people said some pretty blasphemous things about Angry MIchigan Corner Hating God in the wake of Woolfolk's injury.
Not everyone on the board is really a Michigan fan, and not every Michigan fan deserves to be one.
If you see somebody fall and injure themselves, and your first inclination is to laugh, before you even know if they're alright, you need to grow up before you get anywhere near Ann Arbor, people.
We're limiting overly critical and personal comments to realms of information of which we actually KNOW stuff?
Oh, shit. This is a bigger change than the point policy.
gets an auto +1.
So you can run and tell that, homeboy
I looked down, saw the awesomeness of that avatar and thought to myself: now this comment better be good. I was not disappointed.
When I went to bed, it was all, "Too bad, kid. Hope you find luck somewhere", which is what it should be. I don't even want to know who was responsible for that hate in. That's just SAD.
Can't eait until the season starts
I'd recommend eating SOMETHING between now and then. Fifteen days is a long time.
This was an absolute debacle of a post.
1. Tried to post.
2. Thought I had posted in the wrong place; edited it.
3. Realized I had posted it in the right place in the first place; tried to re-edit.
4. Was already beaten to the joke.
On top of all this, I just realized I posted on my friend's account rather than my own (he was using my computer last night). I'm going to post below this, as Mongoose. Kindly direct any negs for this shitshow of a post to that account.
This place has got some nasty little weeds.
I like this as a tshirt, maybe with the Spartan "helmet plumes" or a buckeye tree as the weeds?
I missed the apparent mess last night, but for clarity what is his status?
At last check, he had been planning to transfer but had second thoughts and was asking the coaches if he could return to the team
I hope he changes his mind and returns. I think he'll be a great RB in a few years.
He needs to look no further than Mike Cox, who most people thought was an afterthought, but now may be the starter (or at least play a lot).
visiting this board for a while now and one of the things I like is for the most part discussions are fact based and not personal attacks. I have stayed out of commenting on the players coming and going because I find it unfair to judge someone else not knowing what their situation is.
I dont know if this is the right or wrong approach, but I do know I would not have wanted to the world to judge my every decision when I was 18 years old. I realize these kids are getting an amazing opportunity. I just believe we can let our love for the school blind us to the fact that in many cases, they really are kids--away from home for the first time and in some cases being challenged in ways they probably never have been. Youth and stress don't always lead ideal decsion making,
I will get off my soapbox and return to lurking. Just something to remember or think about.
this is a whole 'nother layer of ugly and stupid.
Somebody call the wambulance.
This definitely needed to be said/done. There is nothing worse than a bunch of adults (or kids for that matter) bashing a kid in college when they know nothing about their situation as a whole. It is too easy for all of us to be a critic behind a keyboard.
OK OK, what the HELL happened between 10pm and 9:01am this morning? Good Lord! Total MGoMeltdown.
Speculation arises on player asking for transfer.
Board has a few posts that are subsequently deleted because nothing is confirmed.
Confirmation comes in from several sources known to be insiders.
Post is made with name redacted just to be sure.
Name is released. Austin White is transferring. Lack of desire cited.
Several posters wish him well where he goes.
Several posters berate players perceived to have bad work ethic. It gets... derogatory, in ways this board hasn't seen.
News appears that Austin White is rethinking his decision and may ask to be let back on the team instead of transferring.
More derogatory posts of a particularly volatile nature appear, especially, "We don't want him back" posts, with lots of insults thrown in.
Brian and the other mods unleash holy hailstorm of JUSTICE.
Thank you. And I thought the week was almsot over and would be a slow Thursday night.
Wow - thanks Blazefire.
I went to bed early last night because I have a terrible pinched nerve in my neck and shoulder. Hurts so fucking bad.
But my excuse is that I was at a Staten Island Yankees-Brooklyn Cyclones minor league baseball game boring everybody by talking about Michigan football instead of what was going on in the game. Made the mistake of finding two of the attendees were actually interested.
that's what I get for watching the Jersey Shore instead of checking MGo.
Actually, I'm happy to not have been involved in any way.
and nice recap.
Although curious, I'm glad that I missed this mess. While initially surprised by the post, I really dig the way Brian was clear about his thoughts on the matter. This place is special and needs to stay that way.
It sucks waking up and coming on the boards to see Brian unleashing the hounds of hell on people and you have no idea why!
Maybe I should just drink more coffee and stay awake all night lurking....hell, Sept. 4th may come a little faster that way!
Wow, I go out on Thursday night and for once dont check this blog or anything else and I miss everything. So, sorry if I am restating anything, but Austin is not transferring is the crux of the story. And some bozo's came on and blasted him, real classy. If any of that is wrong or I am missing anything, please let me know. Thanks, learned my lesson, always check the blog.
I watched the BTN preview and then watched a movie and proceeded to bed. I remember thinking that White looked good in practice, great running style and good cuts, but his blue helmet was going to make MGoBlogLand go nuts. I for one thought he looked good and assumed he'd be a player in a couple of years. Hope i'm right.
Way too much commenting on commenting on commenting...massive circularity leading to nothing but taking up space and pushing quality content further down
I, for one, thought Austin looked pretty darn good in the M-Drill I saw on the BTN last night. Hope he stays and is successful. Looked like he had a great RB build.
Kids that were talented enough to be stars in HS, and still are in College.
Kids that had to work really hard to be stars in HS, and still do in college.
Kids that were talented enough to be stars in HS, but not so in college.
It can be really, really tough for the third type to adapt to college, because they have to become the second type, which they're not used to at all.
Applies to academics as well.
So many kids (myself included) skate by in high school with little or no studying because high school material comes to them rather easily. But, lordy lord lord, is college a different story (again, the case for me, and probably the large majority).
I tried to post this basic thought last night, but guess I was deleted, or screwed it up.
I don't know Austin White from Adam. He may or may not have said something to someone about wanting out -- I have no idea.
I do know he is 18yo. He is in his freshman year of college. He is under a lot of pressure. He is practicing all day. He is tired. He is probably frustrated since he's playing against guys that are better, bigger and stronger than he is. How many times did you change your mind, or say something you regretted, or made a poor decision when you were 18 y.o?
Sorry to get preachy, but from where I sit the posts last night were not only in bad taste, and ridiculous, but so was the decision to put the kids name up there in the first place. Honestly, what the hell difference does it make if his name is there last night, tonight or Monday morning? Brian is right to negbomb those who said disparaging comments. He oughta negbomb himself while he's at it since he's the one who let the name out to the masses at 10pm or so when little, if anything, about the information could do anyone benefit.
Sleep on it next time.
Totally agree. I wanted to transfer out of Michigan in the first 6 months. Never been out of the state of NY for a long period of time. Gotten into a jersey shore fight with the gf and cut open my hand. Called up mom and wanted to go home. She called me a wuss and said toughen up and that I wouldnt be welcomed at home. Stuck it out and stay a extra year for a double major. Loved it. I was 17, but these are kids and make decisions quickly and need time to reflect.
is a horrible thing. Solution: year round football. We'll just toggle injuries to off.
Umm... I think I missed something.
Is this a non-issue or should I cut to the chase and commense heavy drinking?
of heart must have been fast because his name is still on the roster... didn't turners name get pulled the next morning, even though there was chance that he could change his mind???
pardon me for continuing to offer up my unpopular comments, but this blog has become much too big to be posting irresponsible crap about Michigan players.
I am NOT talking about the stupid haters, but about this thread appearing in the first place. Who are the "trusted" people who e posted the "White transfer" piece of garbage?
I am sure some of M Go Blog's huge audience is based on a form of masturbation where one posts just to see ones own posts and the comments they draw., and that needs to be reined in.
Brian needs to take tighter control of the content. Establish hand-picked "trusted posters" for main content.. Have someone closely monitoring the M Go Board, so it is not used as a tool. Perhaps the board should not offer real time posting, but anyone can comment in real time on Page content posted by the "editorial staff". "Internet" does not need to mean "wild west".
Anybody see the artilcle on how designers are giving their competitors' stuff to Snooki, so she will reflect badly on them? How do we prevent Buckeys, Gophers or Spartans from planting nastiness. This blog is going to start to be a problem if it becomes a launching pad for rumormongering about Michigan players. Dont think they are not aware of it.......Richard Ash briefly put up a fake Facebook message to tease us, and we bit on it, in case you didnt notice them noticing us.
I can feel the negbang already.
no idea what you're talking about. seriously.
the information was "good." the responses to it were not acceptable. then things changed.
the leak of the news happened on all relevant UM websites. the response to it was deemed improper on this site.
No, Geaux_Blue, the information WASN'T good if he didn't transfer, or if he hasn't yet decided to. "Goodbye Austin White" is NOT the same think as "White may transfer".
Further, did Austin White, Rich Rodriguez, Fred Jackson, or Bruce Madej want this information out there for public consumption? Clearly not. The only thing having the information on MGoBlog accomplishes, in this situation, is to give stupid assholes an opportunity to sound off on somebody they don't know in a situation that it may not even be warranted. In other words - it forces White further out the door. Good job keepin' on top of this one, buddy.
It is a blog. This is the internet. Brian has a great thing going here, and the situation was handled appropriately. I didn't see the original post, but from many accounts, White was/is at least considering a transfer.
The people who responded inappropriately were taken care of, whether by having their comments deleted or by being banned. That's really all Brian can do. Taking away regular readers' posting rights would be suicide for this blog, IMO. It just needs to be monitored, and for the most part, Brian and the mods do a good job.
Well, there's a line here, and I'm not sure where it gets drawn.
Brian is upset (rightfully) and referenced people talking about situations they don't have full knowledge of. Would this not preclude posting this news in the first place?
You and I have repeatedly had this argument, and I don't expect some sort of agreement now, but I guess I wonder if the "good" of us knowing what Austin White might be doing outweighs the "bad" of his every mood shift getting spewed onto the internet for public consumption.
Brian is upset (rightfully) and referenced people talking about situations they don't have full knowledge of.
Most people on here "don't have full knowledge of" 90% of the things about which they write.
I don't see why it's "bad" to know Austin White's mood shift when it involves him [allegedly] leaving the team. That's not, "Oh, he's feeling sad today because his girlfriend broke up with him." It's him spurning a scholarship offer to play at U of M.
Like someone said above, the information isn't the big problem here (if it's true). The problem, to me, was the way certain people responded, and those comments/people were taken care of.
All these threads in rapid succession, every little piece of rumor and innuendo worthy of it's own thread, is pathetic IMHO.
This blog because of it's size, is now creating news where there is none. These young men on the football team cannot have a moment of indecision become public knowledge, without a barrage of garbage concerning them being put into print.
Tate Forcier for instance, there are people stalking the kid on the internet, waiting for any tantalizing tidbit of info, so they can rush over to Mgoblog and report the nonsense. It's just not good:(
"Tate Forcier for instance, there are people stalking the kid on the internet, waiting for any tantalizing tidbit of info, so they can rush over to Mgoblog and report the nonsense. It's just not good:( "
If that's true, it's truly sad and those ppl need to get lives. Seriously.
Football is exciting, but at the end of the day these are 18-22 year old kids. If my life got to the point where it consisted of stalking Tate Forcier, I'd probably jump off a building. Seriously, there's no dignity in that.
FWIW For those of use in western time zones that showed up late to the party, who got banhammered?
I liked the old policy of switching the banned users to the special avatar. Although from the sounds of this thread, wiping the posts probably makes the world a better place.
From what I pieced together from previous posts, it sounds like the 'disappeared' and banned were Sparty trolls rather than regular posters on the board. I could very well be mistaken though.
I'm just glad I finally missed one. I've spent way too much time in the past few days going bonkers about stuff I can't control. It was about time I caught a break.
Maybe it's just me but I think the forum has gone down hill since the new point system was implemented.
Correlation does not equal causation. It hasn't been a good week for Michigan football.
Before I saw the author of this post, I thought it was going to be about how Austin White's behavior was UNACCEPTABLE!
and i wasnt even talking about white, it was more of a generalization of all the transfers who didnt want to work (like JT Turner, apparently). and it freeing up scholarships for people that actually want to work their asses off at Michigan. Whats done is done, and if i need to get neg bombed for people to get it im fine with it if it clears up the board
I saw your posts last night and they were the douchiest of douchey. You aren't close to the situation, so negative speculation is just silly.
Posts? i only posted once. Maybe i didnt choose the right words but i seriously wasnt trying to take a shot at this kid. Im actually happy he's decided to stick it out. However, if you are lazy, and dont want to work hard, and have a poor attitude, im not going to feel bad when you decide to leave. that opens the door for players to use the scholly you are holding, guys that will bust their asses and "hold the rope"
i have no problem with the people that transfered out because they were homesick like McGuffie, or any other reason.
am i wrong for wanting a program where every player has bought in?
You're wrong for characterizing someone you don't know for thinking about leaving a program (for reasons you don't know) as "lazy, and dont want to work hard, and have a poor attitude".
when its been done by 100 other people? and is a pretty common thought around here? people rip on boren for leaving, because he couldnt handle barwis' regimen, guys like him im talking about. im not talking about an 18 year old kid who is frustrated in football camp. I've been there and know what it feels like. I realize i posted it in the white thread so people think i was talking about him. It was more of a culmination of all the transfers out that couldnt handle the strength program.
Please, just stop.
when its been done by 100 other people?
This is like arguing that you shouldn't have been pulled over for going 80 in a 55 since you were in a pack of cars going the same speed. Nobody should be doing it, you're the one who got punished, suck it up.
essentially, which is why im perfectly fine with Brian doing it. if it helps in cearling up the rumor mongering im all for it.
what i dont need is hypocritical people talking down/negging me about something they've probably done themselves.
i love this board and have been lurking for like 2 years now.
I have no idea if Boren was working hard or not. I've heard he wasn't happy about having to "work" for his starting spot, but the reason I rip on him is because he went from Michigan to....OHIO STATE. DO YOU GET THAT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?
How many other tranfers get ripped on? Mallet, because of the team itself's dislike of him. I can see that. But what about players like Threet and McGuffie?
I am away for one day and this is what I come back to?
I think that the "news" about Austin was the straw that broke the camel's back for some people. He unfortunately was on the receiving end of the cumulative ire of a fanbase that was already reeling from a tough week. People love Michigan so much that they can't understand how someone could not want to be a part of the program, while forgetting that these are kids who are under a lot of pressure.
Hopefully he decides to stick it out and develops his talent to the fullest.
about this incident I learned there is "sticky" in which the mods show what was removed and why.
After reading that stickey, I'm amazed the thread last night ever got posted in the first place. Seems posts are routinely removed for "unfunny", bar advice, inappropriate comments, etc. But this post was let loose even though initially nuked by the same mods. I'm confused. Not only do I consider the decision to allow the post up a mistake, but the post was far more damaging than the benign posts routinely deleted. Just don't see the point, the benefit, the reason to run it.
I think this site is a great resource, a great blog, a great community. I don't comment on other sites. But to keep it outside of mlive chat realm, some reasonable discretion should be exercised guys.