Sorry if discussed elsewhere
From Rothstein: Rodriguez: "Austin White is no longer in the program." #Michigan
And then Tim:
Asked UM football spokesman Dave Ablauf about Austin White not on roster: "That's permanent."
Good lord. That was fast. Transfer to MSU now?
Big Ten rules would apply....
Plus, I don't think either of his brothers are still there. I think they're both gone now. My guess would be Directional Michigan
Wha? The dude had offers from half the Big Ten and LSU and was the 10th best RB in the class. I'd guess he ends up somewhere like Cincy.
and he did have good offers. I was just thinking that he would stick close to home and when kids wash out of a big program they don't usually end up at a decent size program. Now maybe as a Freshman he has a much better chance of landing on his feet at a BCS school.
Of course as I'm typing this I know Turner ended up at WVU and I'm sure there's a dozen other examples of kids landing on their feet.
Well, he could end up in the MAC. I'd just be surprised if he did. As a Stevenson alum, I'm kind of cheering for him, so I hope he doesn't.
Wish him the best of luck in life. Respect the fact that he didn't drag it out over the course of a couple of meh years before transferring. This frees up a spot for someone who is better suited for Michigan.
If woolwolk doesn't play this year and wants to come back??
Yikes! I see Woolfork a lot, but Woolwolk?
Yikes, I see Woolfolk a lot but Woolfork?
You missed the joke. I am simply pointing out that listening to games I could see where a casual fan would figure it to be fork.
Shit, my bad. Going to drink another cup of coffee. Hopefully it will kick in my sarcasm meter.
Hahaha wow my bad typo... still feeling it from last night I guess! Wow
Austin White. I hope you find a better fit and everything works out.
Paging D-Hart...there's an opening in the offensive backfield in Ann Arbor, MI.
Now accepting applications.
Agreed, best of luck to the young man.
Magnus and the like - post this and Turner, what kind of numbers we looking at for this next recruiting class?
This bumps it up to about 17, AFAIK (you never know which walk-ons have scholarships, so that's an educated guess).
I believe we have about 18-19 now, with the final number depending on which 2011 fifth year seniors are given a fifth year on scholarship
It seemed like Austin was getting a lot of reps and doing very well, judging by the "countdown" videos. Disappointing, but obviously he has his reasons.
Its just my opinion but anytime you have a B10 talent in your backyard that is a life long fan you should pick him up. Just IMO.
Hindsight is always 20/20 though, had AW panned out I would have been thrilled. Didnt AW enroll early or am I mistaken?
anytime you have a B10 talent in your backyard that is a life long fan you should pick him up.
And so what does that have to do with Nick Hill?
(Nothing against the kid, I'm sure he's a great human being)
wouldn't have been a good fit in RR's system. He fits better at MSU offensive system. I don't think he was ever offerred by Michigan.
What does his departure have to do with Nick Hill? As someone else noted here, it does not appear that he was ever offered by UMich. Not offering White != offering Hill.
Scholarships need to be used widely, but I have to admit that the other response here (bringing in a local kid who's a lifelong Michigan fan) makes some sense. By reputation Hill is also a high-character guy.
Anyway, my understanding is that Hill's skills were considered 3-star across-the-board (speed, strength, vision, elusiveness, etc.) and that his best chance for success would be at a mid-major. Compare him to Vincent Smith, who might have inferior speed and strength but high D-1 elusiveness. It's early. We'll see...
I'm pretty sure Mike Hart was considered to be a 3 star talent across-the-board too.
You remember that he held national career rushing records, right? His size worked against him in 2004 (pre-Sproles, pre-Jones-Drew, etc.). Have you ever seen this?
That's called elusiveness.
Based on what I've seen of Hill (all highlights), he's got Hart beat on speed and strength. Vision? Not sure, but I'll bet he's worse. Same with elusiveness.
It's not at all clear that Hart was considered an across-the-board 3-star.
Hill is still young and he could eventually make Michigan look foolish. It's early.
What is the reason behind his departure?
with Fred Jack.
That's too bad. He showed some promise. We're stacked at RB and Slot though. Maybe he's looking for more PT somewhere else. Best of Luck to him...
I missed the threads the other night, so why did this come to be exactly?
best of luck to AW. Might go down to a mac school, like central michigan.
During his recruitment last year, there were assertions that he had some unspecified character issues, and I think one or both of his brothers got into some trouble up at MSU. However, Austin and his parents appeared live on-air on WTKA after he verbaled or signed, and he sounded like a decent kid. His dad is or was the principal at AA Pioneer, and he sounded like a no-nonsense guy. Maybe AW will transfer to EMU—RE will love the fact that he's been raised in a two-parent family.
according to info posted a few days ago. So something was definitely wrong. I wish him the best, but the helmet thing we know now is a clue about guys having difficulty for whatever reason.
Best of luck to the kid. Looks like he ran into a logjam at RB and probably didn't see a future. Hopefully he'll land somewhere where he is happy.
This might be a bit callous considering the kid just left, but how does this affect UM's APR? I'm not sure how the rules apply if the kid never plays a down and doesn't complete a semester.
And that the next news after White's departure is Michael Shaw's 2010 eligibility confirmed.
Even if Shaw doesn't meet the grade, the team still has Hopkins, Smith, Cox, and (hopefully) Toussaint. Certainly not the depth chart we all thought at the beginning of the year, but still okay. Plus, you could always see about dragging one of our slots (like Grady) if need be as a last option.
From everything I've heard he'd be at UM if he could
Hopefully he stays in school and gets another chance to join the team next year. Depending on what he was dismissed for obviously.
This was a shock to me today as I had not heard or seen any rumors before yesterday's scrimmage notes. Anything you can share?
That's all that really needs to be said
Interesting. I wonder just how badly he could have screwed up in about a semester to not be asked back/kicked out (which seems to be the insinuation here).
As an early enrollee he has completed a semester.
Hate to see anyone leave, but it's a fairly deep position with similar looking players. Sam Webb keeps saying how great the talent coming out of Ohio next year is and that OSU will not have many scholarships to offer. It would be nice to have more schollys available to fill out the roster with players at positions of greater need.
Good luck Austin.
Does this count against the APR?
Let me try to make this point in a pro-Michigan way: We seem to be having more attrition than I can remember (save possibly for the Moeller era). Dorsey and Whitty were academics, Turner was motivation (I guess), and White - who knows. I understood Carr's guys leaving b/c of the change in style. However, these are RR's guys. I think that Rich Rod and the coaches need to take a hard look to see if changes need to be made. I get that we are loaded at running back. That's not the point. On a team that needs depth, we are seeing a lot of guys leaving. It simply can't be good. Nor can it all be blamed on the kids.
I am not trying to blame RR. I am just saying that there seems to be an issue that he needs to addressed. I hope he does so, rather than digging in his heals.
I have no problem with players leaving the team. If they aren't willing to put in the effort to get better, let them go. I think a lot of these transfers have to do with the fact that RR runs a tough program, and by no means should they change it.
Now, I would love to have the guys that didn't get in because of academic purposes, but that's not RR's fault. He wasn't the only coach who recruited these kids, and he can't take their tests for them.
Any bad ideas.
thin the herd, baby
Neither Dorsey or Witty left, those guys would both be at Michigan if they could. Also, it sounds like Austin White did not leave the team by choice. There really haven't been a lot of guys leaving recently, and Michigan had plenty of attrition under Carr (as every program does).
I did include kids who were signed and didn't make it, but you are right they are different. I will also assume that Rich Rod will adjust to the admissions office, or at lease communicate better.
I also admit that I didn't look at attition rates between eras. (I wish I had time for that, the wife kids really limit my quality mgoblog time.)
It just seems that we are loosing good talent and I do have a concern over it. First of all, I want these kids to come in and do well both on and off the field. Second, we need players. Turner's failure to launch is a problem that will haunt us this year and next. RB is OK for now, but who knows what develops down the road.
I am not saying that we turn the place into Club Med. I just hope that Rich Rod takes a look at this situation and makes those changes that can be made. These are kids making a huge transition. There is a balance between kicking their behinds and welcoming them to the team.
It's Division 1 Football, Brother!!!
Better that we know early that someone is not willing to pay the price that everyone else does.
Those who stay will be champions.