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Austin paper reporting Rodriguez and Meyer offers to Tim Brewster

Per the Austin (TX) Statesman:

Former Texas assistant football coach Tim Brewster may return to coaching after a year as a Fox Sports sideline reporter and has been offered positions on the new staffs of Urban Meyer at Ohio State and Rich Rodriguez at Arizona, the Statesman has learned.

It’s not certain which positions he’s being considered for. 

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/bohls/entries/2011/11/30/brewster_back_i.html 

 

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Big (Score:3 Normal)
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Whoop

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Brewster (Score:2 Normal)
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Would be a good hire. I havn't heard anything about Qb's coach but he would be a good choice for RichRod's staff in that copacity. With Ohio, my guess is TE's and Recuruiting director or something like that. 

"It was open," Toussaint said. "I can't compare this hole to any other holes because I can't remember that but it was a huge hole."

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | Recruiting (Score:2)
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What makes you say recruiting director?  My impression was the Minny fans were having fits over the 2*s he kept bringing in.  

/curious, not trying to call you out

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:34 PM | Brewster is a tight ends (Score:2)
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Brewster is a tight ends coach and maybe a special teams coach. Nothing else.

Regarding recruiting. Yeah. He was the worst recruiter in the conference in the 2009 and 2010 cycles.

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November 30th, 2011 at 3:54 PM | For (Score:1)
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Minnesota ...

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November 30th, 2011 at 4:05 PM | With RR's track record with coaches (Score:1)
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Tim is a bit of a surprise considering his big fail at Minnesota. I would think RR would go a safer route. However, Brewster has been in the pros and was out at USC, maybe he is a better assistant than HC.

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November 30th, 2011 at 4:21 PM | Good assistants fail all the (Score:3 Normal)
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Good assistants fail all the time as HCs - just a different job altogether

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November 30th, 2011 at 3:43 PM | Because.. (Score:1)
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He has held the position of Recruiting coordinator before. 

"It was open," Toussaint said. "I can't compare this hole to any other holes because I can't remember that but it was a huge hole."

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:04 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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I expected to hear more big name people in consideration for Meyer's staff..

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:06 PM | Well, there is Luke Fickell. (Score:5 Normal)
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Well, there is Luke Fickell.  He used to be the head coach somewhere or other....

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:16 PM | Unlike Penn State, it doesn't (Score:2)
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Unlike Penn State, it doesn't seem like there's a strong need to clean house in Columbus.  And I'm not sure that he needs to bring in an offensive coordinator with a "big name."  Besides the fact that most OCs with great success are probably head coaching candidates somewhere, it's Meyer's offense to run.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:25 PM | Right, because as Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
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Right, because as Michigan fans well know there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a coordinator who knows and believes in a completely different scheme than the one the coach is planning to run. (i keed)

Though best guess they both want him as tight ends coach, which he can flat-out coach tight ends.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:29 PM | This is an issue. (Score:2 Normal)
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"Unlike Penn State, it doesn't seem like there's a strong need to clean house in Columbus."

 

THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!! You think Tressel was the only one that did/knew this?

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:33 PM | I have no reason to think (Score:5 Normal)
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I have no reason to think that Tressel passed along word of the violations to the rest of his coaching staff.  They might have known, they might not.  But if a coach knows his kids are committing violations, it seems in his best interest to either keep it to himself or report it.  It does nobody any good to tell the rest of the coaching staff but try to keep it from the compliance department.

Three can keep a secret...if two of them are dead.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:34 PM | tress (Score:0 Redundant)
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doesn't need its own post

http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-want-Jim-Tressel-for-Akron-Zips-Football/189016207816060

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:01 PM | too late (Score:2 Normal)
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Already has its own thread

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/tressel-interviewing-akron

Those who stay will be champions

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November 30th, 2011 at 5:29 PM | Parking Lot? (Score:1)
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Wouldn't the assistant coaches have walked through the parking lot and noticed the cars?  Or looked at their players and noticed all the tattoos?  There was a lot going on there, and it is likely that the assistants knew of a lot of it, even if they did not know that the players were trading trinkets for the tattoos.

In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:41 PM | I think big name assistants (Score:1 Normal)
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I think big name assistants are more important when there are question marks about the head coach.  The Brady Hokes and Gene Chiziks, whose resumes may not scream big time coach, need big name assistants to quench any doubts.  Similarly, coaches taking a little heat can get a little breathing room by bringing in a big name assistant.  Home run hires don't need the big names to accompany them.  

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:48 PM | Let's test your theory: Was (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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Let's test your theory:

Was Rich Rodriguez a "home run hire" in December, 2007?

I think he was.

Hence, your theory fails.

Also.......Urban Meyer's record as a coach was its worst after he lost Mullen, Strong and Mattison.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:06 PM | Was there any complaints (Score:2 Normal)
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Was there any complaints about his coordinator hirings at the time he was hired?  No.  Rich Rod created his own excitement.

On to your next example.  Were Mullen, Strong and Mattison big names when he hired them at Florida?  I'd answer no.  

Home run hires as head coaches are given more leeway to hire the coordinators they want, because it's assumed they know what they're doing.  This doesn't always work out.  Head coaches that have question marks need big names to calm any concerns.  This too doesn't always work out.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:21 PM | Lots of people had questions (Score:2)
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Lots of people had questions about Rodriguez's ability to run the spread in the Big Ten and the 3-3-5 in the Big Ten.  They also had questions about whether he could recruit, whether he would fit with the culture at Michigan, etc.  I don't think Rodriguez was a home run hire at the time.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:07 PM | Well that is pretty (Score:2)
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indicative of the type of offense Urb wants to run.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:11 PM | The great part of hiring (Score:3 Funny)
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The great part of hiring Brewster is that he will instantly raise the total number of victories by those respective coaching staffs by over 100.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:14 PM | Rod-Brewster combo (Score:4 Normal)
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At least they won't be coaching in the b10.  That combined record is not pretty. 

"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:22 PM | Dave Brandon (Score:1 Normal)
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should make an offer just to jack up the price for the guy

nothing too good, we don't want him to actually take it

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:50 PM | 1. We don't have an open (Score:1 Normal)
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1. We don't have an open position.

2. Everyone knows this.

Galileo was also chastised.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:02 PM | doesn't matter (Score:3 Funny)
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dave brandon is a master poker player...he once bluffed holding only 3 uno cards and a chance card from monopoly

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:09 PM | Brandon is only interested in revenue (Score:2 Normal)
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hence get married at the Big House, have your holiday pictures taken at the Big House, a second throwback jersey for sale in one year, advertising all over Crisler.  Its all about the Benjamins baby.  Don't forget $500 to POSSIBLY get season tickets.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:32 PM | then he should ask (Score:1)
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both teams to pay us not to make an offer and drive up the price

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:47 PM | So Brewster is from NJ, played at Illinois, (Score:3 Normal)
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has no collegiate coaching experience whatsoever in AZ or southern CA, and was widely regarded as a terrible recruiter at Minny.

Which means he's perfect to be recruiting coordinator for RR, I guess. Who needs local contacts—or the ability to recruit—anyhow?


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November 30th, 2011 at 1:49 PM | Brewster has good to great (Score:4 Normal)
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Brewster has good to great contacts in Texas and Florida, which probably makes him appealing to both RR and Meyer.

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November 30th, 2011 at 1:57 PM | When did you turn into such an ass, Don? (Score:2 Normal)
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This comment is not befitting you.

The entire reason that this story appeared in the Austin paper is because Tim Brewster was a very successful assistant under Mack Brown at Texas.   (Texas is a large state just to the east of Arizona).  Brewster was so successful under Mack Brown that he got the consideration for the Minnesota job.

I am not so sure about calling Brewster the worst recruiter in the Big Ten; I don't think Jerry Kill is killing it on the recruiting trail in Minnesota either.  I think it is a Gopher Thing, and we wouldn't understand.

As a guy who can work with the rest of a staff, Brewster has basically been a star everywhere he's been.

 

 

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:23 PM | When you have one of the (Score:5 Normal)
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When you have one of the crappiest programs in the Big Ten, it seems likely that you'll be the crappiest recruiter.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:27 PM | When did you turn into such an ass, Don? (Score:5 Normal)
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I've been an ass for a long time.

There were many, many people completely giddy over RR's hiring of Greg Robinson due to his supposed success as a DC at Texas and the fact that he had a Super Bowl ring from Green Bay. I believe that RR said himself at the time of his selection of Robinson that he valued Greg's ability to get along with other staff.

I thought the optics of hiring a guy recently fired as HC at Syracuse after one of the worst stretches in that program's history was terrible for RR, especially coming off a 3-9 season. I realize that RR may not be tabbing Brewster as a coordinator (which Brewster had never been prior to his hiring at Minny) recruiting or otherwise, and maybe merely as a position coach, but considering RR's position, I would think he'd want to surround himself with coaches who have not recently flamed out in rather spectacular fashion.

It's ironic that Brewster was hired at Minnesota in large measure because of his allegedly superior recruiting prowess over Glen Mason. Maybe his recruiting wasn't that bad, and he just was out of his element as a HC.

Don't assume that I'm not rooting for RR to succeed—I am. I'm just waiting to see what his hiring decisions are like.


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November 30th, 2011 at 2:42 PM | Well, Don... (Score:1 Normal)
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Brian Cook was dubious about the hiring of Greg Robinson too.  For my part, I knew very little about Gerg, so I never claimed he'd be great, and I never (sadly) demonstrated my omniscience with a forewarning that he'd be a disaster.

What we should be able to agree on, in the wake of Three and Out, was that Gerg was about Rodriguez's fourth choice (and quite possibly the best choice on paper) available to Michigan at the time.  Particularly since in those days, Bill Martin was not paying 750k with bonuses to 900k, to Defensive Coordinators.  The one little window we saw into the only dispute between RR and Gerg mentioned in the book was Rodriguez's lobbying for Kenny Demens to play, and Robinson's choice of Obi Ezeh to start.

 

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:52 PM | I seem to recall (Score:5 Normal)
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there was a near-state of panic (or at least a state of confusion) on this blog when GERG was hired, owing mostly to a review of where his defenses ranked at previous stops, and the trendline of those rankings year-to-year.  Which were not pretty, and expectations were not super high, but we figured "well, RR knows his ass is on the line with this choice, so he must have done his homework, ergo maybe GERG is gonna be alllllllll right." 

As it turned out, GERG wasn't allllllllllll right. (remember that special time in our lives, guys?)And to be fair, forcing a dude to coach a scheme he had no experience with and use a pre-hired staff wasn't such a superb ass-saving move by RR regardless of how tight the pursestrings were on the hire.

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November 30th, 2011 at 3:23 PM | FWIW, (Score:0 Overrated)
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You've just made a great case to have fired Greg Robinson after 2010; something which I'd have had no problem with.

 

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 4:47 PM | "Run 3-3-5" obsession (Score:2 Normal)
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was definitely one of the things not covered in 3 and Out. Schafer's firing was glossed over too.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:54 PM | Lovers (Score:1)
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Someone is in love with Brewster. P.S. He loves chocolate covered buckeyes, our any nuts in his mouth.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:02 PM | I think he was known for (Score:2)
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I think he was known for recruiting while at Texas.  He got Vince Young.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:05 PM | He also got MarQuies Gray (Score:1)
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He also got MarQuies Gray (eh, in production, but he was a 4-star), and made Minny a finalist in the Henderson sweepstakes.

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November 30th, 2011 at 4:45 PM | Recruiting at Texas (Score:2 Normal)
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Don't get me wrong, you still have to be able to close a kid, but I don't think it's that hard to be a really good recruiter at the University of Texas.  Kids are lining up to go there. 

Now if he had been a stud recruiter at say Texas Tech, that would be a lot more impressive imo.

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November 30th, 2011 at 2:22 PM | I'm getting excited to make Brewster jokes (Score:3 Funny)
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PLAY4BREW GO FIGHT TRY HARD COACH TO WIN BIG GAME AMAZING EFFORT INTERVIEW WELL FORMATION STANCE GOOD.

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November 30th, 2011 at 6:42 PM | I only remember Tim Brewster (Score:1)
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I only remember Tim Brewster because of the recruitment of his son.  It was funny to me that he wasn't even recruiting his own son for some time. 

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December 21st, 2011 at 1:15 PM | brewster recruiting (Score:1)
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Longtime gopher fan here. Tim brewster brought in more 4 star players than mason did in 10 years, and probably more talent than we have ever had, so his recruiting is not a problem, it was top notch for getting kids to consider minnesota who otherwise wouldnever give us a look. He would be a great hire at either school. Kill will not get anywhere near the quality athletes brewster got

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January 6th, 2012 at 6:27 PM | I suppose he'd be a great (Score:2)
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I suppose he'd be a great hire anywhere as a Tight Ends coach and Recruiting Coordinator. Also he was pretty exceptional as head coaches go in player discipline, a good guy in that regard.

I don't think I ever saw him display exceptional competence in anything beyond that. He's a fair example in my opinion of the Peters (Peterson? -- whatever) Principle in football, that he's so great as a Tight Ends coach he gets promoted to past his competence.

Brewster may have nabbed the higher ranked guys and got Seantrel to consider the Gophers for longer but what are those victories next to the parade of not-so-highly recruited NFL players that came through Minneapolis under Mason?

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