Stanford's defense, playing 9 upperclassmen and 2 sophomores on defense (compared to M playing 5 underclassmen, sometimes more and as many as 5 freshmen) gives up 626 yards and 52 points to a spread offense.
Oregon: 626 yards on 80 plays, 7.825 yd/play
Indiana: 568 yards on 98 plays, 5.8 yd/play
Michigan: 574 yards on 45 plays, 12.756 yd/play
Be careful what you wish for...
Oregon might be just a shade
Hmmm...
Sort of like RichRod is a shade better than Harbaugh at this whole coaching thing.
Bathrooms excluded.
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is it me
or are you the most annoying poster since bouje
It is just you.
It is just you.
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It's definitely not you.
It's definitely not you.
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Ya think?
This just in, Stanford might be just a shade better than Michigan on defense.
So, wait...Harbaugh is a worse coach...
...because his defense is better than Michigan's??
I don't even want Harbaugh as our coach...but you're not making a lot of sense here. Might be time for bed.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
No
Where did you get that I said Harbaugh was a worse coach? I never wrote that.
Stanford's D players > Michigan's D players
Yet, Stanford still gets torched by a spread offense.
Therefore, Stanford isn't coaching defense all that well, either.
Your logic is awful
Because unless you take into account Oregon's offense > Indiana's offense, then it doesn't mean anything. And all the "arrrggghhhh see bluebloods (whatever that means) Stanford's no good on defense and Harbaugh's not the answer" seems to strongly insinuate that he's not as good a coach. Which may be the case. But you've shown no evidence to that point.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
But Indiana has an Accounting
But Indiana has an Accounting major playing at QB. He knows how to add up all those yards.
"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."
When did Indiana become the
When did Indiana become the Oregon of the Big Ten ?
Yes
You are correct sir!
I am not
"wishing for" anything, but I am sorry Indiana does not equal Oregon.
Too bad...
...that the blueblood, Harbaugh lovers haven't learned that and never will.
You are usually one of the
You are usually one of the top posters on here but this is just turrible.
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First of all
Yeah, comparing Indiana to Oregon is a little ridiculous. Secondly, I don't see anything good in taking pleasure in seeing one of Michigan's greats getting taken out to the woodshed in their biggest game of the year.
Spread is sooo not dead
I always find it gratifying to see that these paleozoic offenses (like Stanford) have no chance to hang with a spread offense when it is executed properly. Makes me glad that we have the grandfather of the spread coaching our team.
stanford ran a great deal of shotgun/pistol today
They are by no means a paleozoic offense.
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To be fair
Stanford is 16th in total offense. Oregon is lights out. The Owusu fumble turned that game around, it looked to me.
I'm willing to wait to see how other teams fair against IU in the B10 before I make much of a judgement on what this game meant. I knew we'd give up yards, though not quite as many as that. Still I think IU will end up being a pretty prolific offense by year's end. They're Top 25 as of today. Teams with some more experience on the back end will likely make it tougher on them with their questionable running game. I suspect they'll end up top 30ish or 40ish.
Wow
You're that insecure about the current coach here that you have to troll about a coach coaching a different team across the country and his D letting up yards against the #4 ranked team in the country who is known for their offense?
Please tell me you were watching the game and were depressed when Stanford opened up the lead, but became giddy (as it sounds from your post) when you saw Oregon score over and over in the 2nd half. Why don't we compare stats against a common opponent... Oh b/c you'd be even more insecure if that happened.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
I think someone here is
I think someone here is insecure, all right...
You didn't post that ridiculous OP
JMblue, You're one of the biggest Harbaugh haters of them all, and you didn't even see fit to compare our stats against the football powerhouse Indiana to Stanford's against Oregon. Lets be honest here, that is a bit absurd.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
What's a bit absurd is going
What's a bit absurd is going up 21-3 at the end of the 1st and being such a great coach who changes it up and gameplans and outsmarts the other coach that your team goes on to get railed 49-10 the rest of the game.
OMG
STANFORD'S DC SUX!
NO ADJUSTMENTS!
UNACCEPTABLE, WE ARE STANFORD!
HARBAUGH WURST CORCH EVA!
Spread happens.
Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.
I do find
I do find it interesting that Stanford was held scoreless in the 2nd half. Did Oregon completely nullify the Stanford offense with adjustments?
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Yes and no
Stanford was still moving the ball, but they had a terribly costly turnover on one drive that set up an Oregon TD, and after that they really got away from their game plan and made some poor decisions. They also went for it on 4th and goal from the 5 and didn't convert. So they probably could have scored, had the game been w/in a FG.
I'd say it was a combo of offensive adjustments by Oregon and some bad mistakes/play calls by Stanford.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
Oregon's on-side kick was huge
Stanford was dominating the early part of the game, 21-3, I think. Oregon scored, recovered an on-side kick, and scored again. Stanford was a little deflated after that. Then, Stanford was the beneficiary of a dubious call on an interception (I thought it was accurate), but it didn't lead to any points. The Oregon fans really got into it after that, and it seemed the umps gave Oregon a couple make-up calls. The offensive pass interference on Stanford was horrible. Finally, an Oregon DB speared one of Stanford's better players (Owusu) and knocked him out. Momentum is such a huge part of the college game. That's why if I was playing Michigan this year, I'd want the ball first like Indiana and UMass. I hope UofM's kick return team is always ready for the on-side kick, because with the way our offense scores, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more gutsy coaches tries that against us this year, early in the game when you least expect it. It was a real game-changer for Oregon.
This just in....
Oregon is really good. That comparison = Fail.
That can't be right. After
That can't be right. After all, Harbaugh's pro-style, ball-control offense wears down the other team and protects the defense, or something.
I'm not sure if you watched
But it surprised me that they got away from the run so early. The entire 2nd half was Luck looking for recievers with not enough time to do it. I thought it was actually pretty poor 3rd quarter play calling that did them in. It became a token run on 1st down and then 2 passes, almost every drive. Your post pretty much sums up the problem is that they didn't control the ball.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
That's what happens when the
That's what happens when the pace of the game gets too fast for a ball-control team. It happened to Lloyd Carr's teams, too.
GD
Right on, Gary Danielson. Alabama never runs out of the shotgun or uses a wildcat formation or anything like that. right?
/sarcasm
What's the point here?
What's the point here?
The point...
...is to try to show all the "Fire Rich Rod! Hire Harbaugh! We need to go back to Michigan football!" types out there how ridiculous their notion of "Michigan Football" is, and their "Chosen One" might not be such a panacea after all.
Tennessee, with half a roster, yielded almost 200 yards less than Stanford, with a much weaker offense. Ditto Arizona State, and Portland State only surrendered around 650 to the Ducks.
Listen, Harbaugh was a great player here, during a great coaching regime. He's now a good young coach. But is he "The Answer?" Maybe, maybe not. Is Rodriguez "The Answer?" Maybe, maybe not.
Coming into this season, Harbaugh hadn't come close to proving he's a better coach than Rodriguez, and the first part of this season hasn't, either.
So the point is
"Maybe, maybe not"? Uhm, great.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I haven't seen any bring up
I haven't seen anyone bring up Harbaugh until I read your sorry excuse for a post. Insecure much?
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Oh wow
Does any team play defense in the Pac-10? Every one the games in that conference ends with at least 25 points by either team
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
IU was only 11 for 19 on 3rd down
Our defense wasn't terrible. Our offense just scored too quickly. I can live with that.
No denying it
Harbaugh = fantastic coach and Michigan legend, give the man his due. That said, this is why Rich Rod was hired in the first place, to bring Michigan football into the "new" era of the spread and beyond. Whether he will get a chance to build his dynasty is to be determined however our inability to stop that shit Troy Smith no doubt had something to do with our decision. I hate to say if you can't beat them join them and I do think Bill Martin is cognitively impaired but the spread is an undeniable beast that one can only hope to contain.
What evidence is there...
...that supports, "Harbaugh = fantastic coach?"
I'll buy, "Harbaugh = good young coach and Michigan legend."
I don't speak for Stanford,
I don't speak for Stanford, however, I will assume he obtained legendary status upon Stanford cracking the top 10. This is Stanford. Have some perspective dude.
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WOW.
FAIL
I'm going to treat you all the same. Like dogs. - Bo
Harbaugh is good. Rich Rod is good
Rich Rod has an astounding offense, maybe on par with Oregon. Jim Harbaugh has done an outstanding job at a elite, private institution like Stanford. That is about all we can glean here by comparing these two games. Not any grand conclusion of which coach or which scheme is the end all, be all answer.
Exactly
Not any grand conclusion of which coach or which scheme is the end all, be all answer.
That's my point.
One too many Natty Lights,
One too many Natty Lights, OP?
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Bush
As long as I fanned Harbaugh calling timeout under a minute left at ND was bush league
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I'm with you sharik RR is our
I'm with you sharik RR is our man and while our defense is struggling I don't think a coaching change will do any good for us at this point
But regardless of numbers etc it was painful to see our defense today. I was not planning on watching 42 min of nearly flawless IU offense. We have to improve if we want to win big games.
Oregon
is the second best team in the Nation and I don't thin it's close. It goes:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. OSU
Oregon is for real this year.
The Rose Bowl might disagree
As would some people from Boise; two teams Oregon has to still prove they can handle.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I have a hard time putting
I have a hard time putting Oregon that far above OSU considering the Rose Bowl game wasn't that far back. OSU shut down their offense last year when it was almost as impressive
Oregon might be just a shade better than Indiana on offense.