I came across this on Facebook this morning. Some people created an event for this Saturday to try and change the "You Suck" after Temptation to "Hoke Smash". I know that it has been discussed here before, and that there are people who did not like the "You Suck". I am not sure if "Hoke Smash" is perfect, but I definitely like it more than "You Suck". It will be interesting to see if there is even a noticable difference on Saturday (unlikely), but there are over 600 people listed as attending. Just figured I would do my part to spread the news.
Attempt to change the "You Suck" chant after Temptation to "Hoke Smash"
Here is their listed reasoning and explanation for those that won't click the link.
"Why change the cherished "you suck" to "Hoke Smash?" I offer the following:
(1). Hoke Smash is more fun.
How to HOKE SMASH:
You're right, sarcasm IS hard!
I'm glad my wife doesn't attend the games, because the words to that song are nothing but a lascavious display!
Football is a serious game, and all in attendence should treat it so!
I've always thought it would be simple to switch "You Suck" to "Go Blue."
Then again, I like to think rationally.
"Go Blue" would catch on (a key necessity - "Hoke Smash" will not and is gimmicky) and would be infinitely classier. Come on, students, let's get it done!
This might be confusing to inebriated college students. It could possibly lead to:
"You Smash!" or "Hoke Suck!"
saying "Go Blue" all season because I've got my kids with me. I wish the rest of the fans would class it up a bit...
how bout...."go blue"
It's classy, elegant and timeless. Sign me up.
I'm all for changing the "You Suck" chant, as it is in no way clever and, frankly, and bit crass. What are we, michigan state? But Hoke Smash? Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Then again, I've got nothing better...
I'm pretty sure MSU legit calls the other team a "bitch" in one of their chants.
had a cheer for first down where they say "first down" then make a slapping motion and say "bit*%." That's crass. "You suck" may also be crass (and I don't like it) but is pretty tame in comparison.
That's the same thing MSU does. So not only are they classless, they're unoriginal.
A group of about 6 Sparties (in the student section, guh) was directly in front of me at Braylonfest. They did that damn cheer EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. MSU got a first down. Needless to say, they left very, very quickly and quietly after the 3rd OT.
Purdue does this chant for every single first down they get too.
[insert joke about how few first downs they get]
My friend that was at the UM-MSU game this year said the MSU students had a chant that went: "Go State! F*ck Michigan! They suck balls!"
Haha, I was there. The problem for MSU chants are none of them rythems which sounds stupid and lame... The funny chant I know is Wisconsin " fk you, eat sh!t"
MAN BALL !!!
I like trolling on the opponents. "You suck" is clean and doesn't include any profanities.
Well, either we change it or we stop playing it, your choice.
Has the administration actually made this threat?
It's not a threat per se, they've just discussed it. Right now they're trying to change it, but if things don't work out, they might not have a choice. I suggest we just change it to "go blue!" The tradition is to play Temptation with Hawaiian War Chant, so they can still get rid of Temptation after third downs without breaking that tradition. Temptation after third down stops is a tradition in it's own right but it's not as old as Hawaiian War Chant/ Temptation.
The adminstration says a lot of shit. Like how they were going to take season tickets away from people who chanted four letter words at hockey games. I started getting emails of such a nature back in 2003. We're still swearing and we all still have tickets.
If they kill Temptation the blue hairs (and all the dollars they donate) will rise up and we'll have it back within a game or two.
We really need to change the "you suck" chant. We're Michigan. It sounds stupid and probably fires up the opposing team on some level. We're better than that chant. I dont care what we change it to.
Hoke Smash would be popular with young children. Oh, I see what you've done here, Dave "ILWolverine" Brandon. NOT ON MY WATCH.
FYI - I've hated the "You Suck" chant since I was an undergrad (early 2000s) and told everyone around me so multiple times. It's so immature sounding. Not sure "Hoke Smash" raises the bar, maturity-wise, but "Go Blue" has always made more sense.
"you suck" is the most unimaginative cheer ever, but I love it.
because I chuckle whenever I hear the "You suck" chant or whenever I meet someone named "Dick". but gosh darn it can't we all just agree to disagree and get along. How do you think I feel? My name really is Hugh Jass.
you said "chuckle" hha ha ha ha.
The best thing is when you can hear it on the TV. I smile every time.
"You suck" might be the dumbest thing any student section has ever come up with, aside from perhaps the popular but usually unfounded 'bull-[poop]' chant after a controversial call. I am in full support of either this or "Go Blue!"
especially when the fans do it on a 3rd down step when the team is clearly going for it on 4th, which happens pretty frequently
I pay attention enough and know enough about football to know when they are going to go for it, others dont.
When the band starts playing temptation then they are going to start chanting. The band needs to learn to not play it when its not actually a stop yet.
Temptation is always played after a 3rd down stop whether they go for it or not. Also, the band plays immediately after the play is over, there is no time to figure out whether they are going for it or not.
and they also play it after a fourth down stop as well.
Except the band is under pressure to stop playing it completely since the "you suck" thing has become pretty clear on TV. Hearing Temptation after a 3rd down stop > Not hearing Temptation after a 3rd or 4th down stop, regardless of whether or not the timing is bad.
Pitt's fight song has "Penn State sucks" in it, nevermind the fact that the team isn't even playing Penn State when its being sung.
Haha, point taken. I suppose I should have generalized my statement to include "_______ suck(s)"
That just screams little brother complex right there.
MSUs original fight song:
On the banks of the Red Cedar,
There's a school that's known to all;
Its specialty is farming,
And those farmers play football;
Aggie teams are never beaten,
All through the game they'll fight;
Fight for the only colors:
Green and White.
Smash right through that line of blue,
Watch the points keep growing.
Aggie teams are bound to win,
They're fighting with a vim!
Rah! Rah! Rah!
Michigan is weakening,
We're going to win this game.
Fight! Fight! Rah! Team, Fight!
Victory for M.A.C.!
Georgia Tech's fight song includes the line "To Hell with Georgia" in it, and has forever. So "you suck" is equally (only equally) classless, but at least it doesn't reveal a little brother complex.
but Wisconsin's knucklehead students go with "eat sh!t" "F#$k You" as their chant
Sorry but no.
I won't be going to the last two games, but I do think this is a good idea and I would like to hear whether or not it sticks.
"You suck" chant sounds a little too 1990-ish....time for an update. However, something 1990-ish that kicked ass were the marshmellows.
But I don't recall "You Suck" until after I graduated in 1999.
or 2003. I don't remember for certain. I do recall there being some debate when it was first initiated - a lot of fans thought doing a tomahawk chop was too derivative; there was some attempt to make it "the claw" instead of a chop (did that ever catch on?). I do remember that the motion started before the "you suck" chant was added to it.
Fall '02 was my last student season and it wasn't around then.
Thanks for the confirmation - I was pretty sure this started midseason during my frosh or sophomore year, and was leaning towards sophomore - which was '03.
What I realized (and posted about on the FB event page) was that the "You Suck" Chant (YSC) was born under very rare circumstances - a Hated Rival Beatdown. When Brady Quinn and Notre Dame stunk up the Big House in '03 and lost 38-0, it was a perfect storm: a rival team came in and got totally annihilated.
By the time the 4th quarter rolled around and ND had gained 102 yards to M's 355, it wasn't whiney or contrary-to-the-scoreboard at all to tell them they sucked, it was really just a statement of fact. And we certainly hated ND (and Brady Quinn) enough to let them know it. Hell, the birth of the YSC may have come right at the end of the dominating 3-and-out that M forced at the start of the second half.
Anyway, this got me thinking a couple of things:
First, it's totally consistent that I participated in and enjoyed the YSC for a very brief period of time as a sophomore, and just wanted everyone to stop as soon as that brief period was over.
Second, the YSC is not as completely devoid of purpose as it has sometimes seemed. MAYBE, if conditions are just right, the student section could pull it out again. But, the conditions do need to be right. 1) The opponent has to be a rival or a very strong team (like we're ever going to schedule a home-and-home against a good team... sigh). 2) Michigan MUST MUST MUST have the lead. 3) The opposing team must not be setting up to go for it on 4th. There were more punts from the end zone than 4th-down conversion attempts in that magnificent ND game.
If we can reserve "It's great... to be... a Michigan Wolverine" for big wins, why not reserve the YSC for super-big stops in HRB games? (And that's what we tell the stupid guys posting "But it's ironic!" on the FB Event page.)
during my time (95-99) but the "you suck" was added later. (I was unclear in my earlier response.)
The chop was there in the mid 90s, a grassroots attempt at making it a claw fizzled during my student years too.