Athlon Ranks B1G Football Coaches (Hoke 2nd)

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 AM
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Athlon Ranks B1G Football Coaches (Hoke 2nd)

Athlon ranks Hoke 2nd only to newcomer Urban Meyer.  Commence the wails of righteous indignation from E. Lansing that Mark Dantonio is ranked under Hoke.

Article is here http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-big-tens-college-football-coaches .

1. Urban Meyer (OSU)

2. Brady Hoke (Tremendous!)

3. Mark Dantonio (MSU)

4. Pat Fitzgerald (NU)

5. Bret Bielema (Wis)

6. Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)

7. Bo Pelini (Neb)

8. Jerry Kill (MN)

9. Tim Beckman (IL)

10. Danny Hope (Purdue)

11. Bill O'Brien (PSU)

12. Kevin Wilson (IU)

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 AM | I think Ferentz should be (Score:5 Normal)
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I think Ferentz should be ahead of Bielema, Fitzgerald, and Dantonio.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 AM | I was wondering if someone was going to mention that. (Score:1)
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I see Ferentz ranked as the third (if not tied with Fitzgearld)best in the B1G.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 AM | Not Anymore (Score:2)
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His stock has been dropping over the past few years with some lackluster teams.  If this was back in the mid 2000s, Ferentz is a lock for the third place.  Now though, Sparty and Wisky have turned in better seasons recently and on a repeated basis.  

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 AM | I imagine it's based off (Score:2 Normal)
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I imagine it's based off previous accomplishments.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 AM | if so (Score:1 Overrated)
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that put's Hoke in the bottom half, no?

April 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 PM | Granted he has only coached (Score:3 Normal)
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Granted he has only coached one season at Michigan but he went 11-2 and won a BCS bowl.  How would that put him in the bottom half?  I'm not saying it garners a #2 but bottom half, no way.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 PM | Hoke is the best IMO (Score:0 Overrated)
April 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 PM | Hoke has won three Coach of (Score:4 Normal)
jmblue
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Hoke has won three Coach of the Year awards in the past four seasons - in three different conferences.  There is no way you could put him in the bottom half.

April 3rd, 2012 at 4:57 PM | like having 32 players (Score:2)
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like having 32 players arrested in 6 years?? that would put him #1 in the Big10.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 AM | He does have probably the (Score:4 Normal)
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He does have probably the second best resume in all of college football presently...

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 AM | It didn't really bother me (Score:3 Normal)
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The guy has 2 national titles.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 AM | Just like O'Brien is #11, (Score:2)
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wiythout ever having coached at PSU.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 AM | Pardon Me BUT..... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
April 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 AM | 2 National Championships?  (Score:3 Normal)
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2 National Championships?  Obviously there are questions about his ethics but you can't deny that he is a good coach and has them.  On what basis should anyone be above him?  Just sayin'.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 AM | If you're a good coach it (Score:2)
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If you're a good coach it doesn't matter if you coached last week or last year.  It's something that doesn't just disappear over night.  The guy turned Utah into a great program when he was there and won 2 NTs in the SEC.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 AM | nearly 2 years? (Score:1)
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tempus fugit

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 AM | You must be new here. (Score:5 Normal)
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This is MGoBlog not MLive

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 AM | .... (Score:1 Normal)
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2 National titles and 2 conference titles in the best conference in college football. 

The Big Ten is not special. 

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 AM | I would say the reason he (Score:5 Normal)
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I would say the reason he doesn't win the B1G this year would be the fact that they aren't allowed to due to the postseason ban...

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 AM | That's the reason he can't. (Score:5 Normal)
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I would hope it's not the reason he won't.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM | Hoke will be the reason. (Score:4 Normal)
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Hoke will be the reason.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 AM | You should probably sit a few (Score:5 Normal)
Laser Wolf
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You should probably sit a few plays out.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 AM | Well (Score:2 Flamebait)
MichiganExile
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With Tressel and JoePa gone Meyer has 2 more national titles to his name than all the other B1G head coaches combined. Other than moving Ferentz above and Bielema right behind Dantonio I think this list is pretty legit.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 AM | I'm assuming... (Score:2 Normal)
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That they are giving Meyer credit for his past successes at Utah and Florida.  If that's what they are doing, then fine.  He's got the hardware to back it up, though It does feel strange that a coach can be ranked #1 in a conference in which he hasn't coached a game.  But then again, Hoke is #2 when he's only coached one full season, albeit a pretty successful one.  Can't wait to see the top 3 settle this on the field...

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April 3rd, 2012 at 11:09 AM | Don't forget BGSU (Score:1)
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Meyer also won at BGSU- which itself is an accomplishment- with 8-3 and 9-3 records before bolting for Utah.

April 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 PM | yeah but 8-3 at BGSU is more (Score:2)
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yeah but 8-3 at BGSU is more impressive then say going 11-1 Ball State.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 AM | Hoke really is probably too (Score:2 Normal)
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Hoke really is probably too high at this point based on accomplishments.  I think he can/will end up as the best coach of all of these guys but he has A LOT to prove even after the Sugar Bowl victory.  Bielema has 2 Rose Bowl appearances (no wins I know) and won the B1G last year and has had a share before (this does not mean that he is not a douche).  Take us to the Rose Bowl this year Brady and I will happily annoint you top of the B1G.

 

 

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 AM | Tend to agree here (Score:1 Normal)
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When I take the homer hat off, Hoke should not be number 2.  Bielema should be given more credit than he is getting.  

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April 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 PM | My guess is that they're (Score:2)
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My guess is that they're giving Hoke's record more weight than Bielema's because he turned around two historically downtrodden programs and a third that was in the midst of its roughest stretch in history, winning two coach of the year awards in the process. Wisconsin, though it's not Michigan or Ohio State, is not a super-difficult place to win at. Bielema took over a program that Barry Alvarez had left in pretty good shape. Also, Hoke has taken Michigan's already excellent recruiting up a notch, whereas Bielema has never been known as a great recruiter. But yeah, it would still be a reasonable list if Bielema were ranked #2 instead of Hoke. 

If we take off our maize and blue glasses, it's hard to dispute that no one else in the conference has a resume anywhere near as stellar as Meyer's.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 AM | Danny Hope is way too high on this list (Score:5 Normal)
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There are not enough teams in the B1G to accurately show how low Danny Hope should be.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 AM | I agree... (Score:2 Normal)
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but only because Ron Zook isn't around anymore...Hope would've been Zook'd on that list IMO.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 AM | Athlon would've put Zook at (Score:5 Normal)
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Athlon would've put Zook at number 8 but he would've called them and said he'd rather be number 10.

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 AM | 1. Hoke (Tremendous!) 2. Bret (Score:1 Normal)
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1. Hoke (Tremendous!)

2. Bret Bielema (Wis)

3. Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)

4.  Pat Fitzgerald (NU)

5. Bo Pelini (Neb)

6. Meyer (OSU)

7.  Dantonio (MSU)

8. Jerry Kill (MN)

9. Tim Beckman (IL)

10. Danny Hope (Purdue)

11. Bill O'Brien (PSU)

12. Kevin Wilson (IU)

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 AM | Hey Kool Aid! (Score:1)
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You are sweet, but extremely high. You discount evening others have done? I also want to let to you know Bo is a horrible coach out here in Nebraska land. Go Blue!

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 AM | "Considering he was born in (Score:5 Normal)
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"Considering he was born in Ohio, Hoke isn’t necessarily a Michigan Man."

Ah, yes.  Where you were born is where the whole Michigan man thing is from.  Someone better break the news to Bo that he's disqualified from being considered a Michigan man.  I honestly don't expect everyone to know everything about U of M football, but if you're going to dare try to throw the our Michigan Man thing at us, try not to say something so damn ignorant.

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 AM | Was thinking the same thing (Score:2)
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Was thinking the same thing when I read that. 

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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 AM | Yost was from WV and Crisler (Score:3 Normal)
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Yost was from WV and Crisler was born in IL.  So yeah, there's those guys too.

 


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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 AM | Moeller was born in Ohio and (Score:5 Normal)
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Moeller was born in Ohio and Lloyd was born in Tenneessee! We don't have any michigan menz! Oh n0ez!

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April 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 AM | Meme fail. (Score:2)
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And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!

 

April 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 AM | I suspect Bielema is too (Score:3 Normal)
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I suspect Bielema is too highly ranked... it seemed like it was poor in-game coaching decisions that led to each of Wisconsin's losses last year, and that's not a new trend.  

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 AM | Undoubtedly (Score:2 Normal)
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Bielema is undoubtedly too high. His game management/play calling has been atrocious in multiple high profile games in the past couple years. The TCU loss still irks me. 

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 AM | But he's also been to the Rose Bowl (Score:2 Normal)
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2 years in a row, which is better than any other coach has done.  Getting the team set up to win a bunch of games and get to that goal, that's why he's being rewarded.  He should be ahead of Dantonio and Fitzgerald (though he is a douche). 

April 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 AM | Bielema's had a fantastic (Score:3 Normal)
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Bielema's had a fantastic record at Wisconsin.  He's actually improved upon Barry Alvarez's work, which no one thought possible.  He looks dumb but he's gotten results.

April 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 AM | Beilema is a good coach with (Score:1 Overrated)
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Beilema is a good coach with some impressive success, but using his record to prove it isn't the strongest argument. Wisconsin refuses to play a non-conference opponent with a pulse. They can automatically pencil in W's for the first four games of the season.

April 3rd, 2012 at 1:25 PM | Aren't coaches ultimately (Score:2 Normal)
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Aren't coaches ultimately evaluated on wins and losses?  How can I evaluate him without looking at his record?  Besides, Alvarez scheduled tons of cupcakes, too.

April 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 PM | Beilema is a good coach with (Score:4 Normal)
jmblue
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Beilema is a good coach with some impressive success, but using his record to prove it isn't the strongest argument.

You can make this argument for a guy like Hoke when he was in the apples/oranges situation of coaching at BSU/SDSU, but in Bielema's case, his entire head coaching career has been at Wisconsin. His record is a fairer metric than subjective things like judging his play calling.

April 3rd, 2012 at 12:39 PM | Bielema looks dumb as a rock (Score:4 Normal)
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Bielema looks dumb as a rock sometimes but he still takes very average recruiting classes and makes them into B1G contenders almost every year

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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 AM | What is Athlon's ranking? (Score:4 Normal)
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I just want to make sure they are qualified (e.g., their ranking is high enough) to make this ranking.  

Oh, that's right!  Anyone can make a ranking about anything.  Never mind.

Your opinion has no value.

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 AM | Jerry Kill at 8? (Score:1)
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Jerry Kill at 8? I didn't realize his previous records were so good. He really had a RR-esque first season for Minny.

April 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 AM | I don't know (Score:4 Normal)
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He took a team that was thought to be maybe the worst B1G team ever and nearly beat USC and MSU while stealing games against Iowa and Illinois all while dealing with the whole seizure issue.

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