at least it's not just us?
Assistant coaches visting Dunn today
You work your magic, Mr. Jackson!
Dunn is like Fitz, except with Tyrone Wheatley's size and Denard Robinson's speed! Michigan needs him!
I think size more than speed is Dunn's game. He reminds me of Anthony Thomas -- big, strong, physical back very competent between the tackles and enough speed to run outside the tackles.
100M Bri'onte's best is 11.42; Denards is 10.56
200M Bri'onte's best is 22.95; Denard's is 21.89
Plenty darn fast for a big man, but not lightening fast.
Denard's best was a 10.28 100M dash his senior year, one of the fastest times in the country that year.
with Mike Hart's agility and Denard Robinson's speed and Tom Harmon's playmaking ability.
You're comparing a mortal to dilithium. Of course he looks slow next to Denard. Who doesn't?
I have a bad feeling that he stays a buckeye. He'll surely be getting a ton of pressure and Urban Meyer is a pretty good recruiter too.
Have you ever seen a power runner is ANY of Meyers offenses over the years? NO
Has Meyer ever had a 1000 yard rusher in his offense? NO
Is Urban going to change and build his offense around a senior in HS recruit? NO
Unless Brionte is interested in playing LB, I don't see him playing for the buckeyes.
Meyer did try to change his offense around John Braneley IV. Look where it got him: disguested enough to quit put the team in such a hole that Ron Zook almost looks like he was a decent coach. Maybe we're going to be happy either way.
If I were Meyer, I'd argue that in the short term, OSU will be more like a pro-style offense and Michigan is still clearly a spread. Plus with Toussant just putting up a 1000-yard season as a Sophomore, he might have a better chance to start right away at OSU.
The other side of that is that Michigan's already proved it can get a RB some spotlight even in the early stages of the 'transition' and OSU hasn't even begun the process. Plus, even if the sanctions are mild, less scholarship players is less talent around you to make you look even better.
Brionte said he talked to Urban and the conversation went well. He also said the reason he (Urban) never had a big back in his offense because he always had smaller scat backs. Complete bull...
Dunn said it himself that he didn't want to play in the spread offense.
Man, I hope I'm wrong.
With his recruitment I would say the biggest thing is that he wants to enroll early. There is still no word on what the NCAA is planning on doing in terms of bowl bans and that is something that is very important to Dunn and his father. Things look good for Michigan consider he is a soft OSU commit and he was standing on the opposite side for a visit during The Game.
I read that a ruling is expected within 2 weeks or so for OSU. I'm on my phone so I can't look up where I read it.
You are correct. It was on ESPN somewhere.
There was a recent comment where he said he might not enroll early anymore.
Thanks I did not see that. I wish him the best where ever he decides to go.
I don't like the sounds of that..
I thought he was going to EE, but then changed his mind, but recently said that he yet again plans to enroll early.
When did this change?
It was in an article from a day or two ago.
"Son, you remind me of Bo Jackson...but with more speed." Dunn will be ours, book it.
"You are a combination of Tyrone Wheatley, Mike Hart, and Biakabatuka.... but shiftier, bigger, and faster"
"Son, I have been here forever and I have coached a lot of good ones. Tyrone Wheatley, Timmy B, Chirs Howard, Chris Perry, Miek hart... You are a combination of all of them except bigger and faster. I have no doubt you will be at the top of the record books in every category by the time you are a senior."
Edit: damn! redundant!
I assume Meyer will do what he can to keep him on board if only to avoid any negative publicity so early in his tenure.
I am sure Meyer is putting the full court press on Bri-Onte. Let's face it, he's theirs to lose (seeing as he's a commit). But he came to our last two games and stood on OUR sidelines.......AGAINST THE TEAM HE'S COMMITTED TO. I think that's a pretty good indication of where he's leaning.
Sure he stood on our side, but that was before Meyer was named head coach. But he's getting strong and constant pressure from his cousin (Thomas) and others (Morris). I still think he a tOSU committ until we can convince him to do otherwise.
That was before he was "officially" names the head coach. Pretty much everyone already knew Meyer was going to OSU as the coach. Having his cousin on board I think really helps us. I am sure he is in his ear every day about playing together.
also want to keep him out of the winged helmet too. Dunn will destroy ohio and Meyer knows it. So it is in Meyer's best interest to lie and keep him on the sidelines instead of on the field wearing the Block M.
Jerel Worthy thinks the same thing.
However, Michigan's uniform has no block M.
There was a really informative post in one of the Dunn threads about Meyer's lack of track record when it comes to developing RBs. I wish I could find it now b/c it was really in depth and interesting.
This is informative, not exactly what you were looking for though
"both are world-class academic instituions"
I laughed so hard I think I sharted. I'm afraid to look though.
Oh i forgot to mention to ignore everything besides the numbers.. haha
We all have asked why BRIONTE would want to go to OSU in Meyer's system... but I want to know why Meyer would want Brionte so bad?
Seriously, I can't recall a single running back (Dunn's style) that Meyer has recruited that has done anything but block... I am kind of hoping that Meyer and Brionte have a mutual parting of ways. Then Brionte will gash the Buckeye defense for years to come.
Whoops. Meant to mark you insightful but it went redundant.
As a coach you want to get as much talent as possible. Bri'onte Dunn might not be a prototypical back for Meyer, but he might be a better option than some other 5'7", 160 lb. kid who's a nobody recruit. Lots of kids are leery of going to a place like OSU right now, so he won't necessarily be able to woo every awesome scatback out there.
Besides, I think too much is being made of the Meyer/powerback thing. True, he's always had smaller backs...but that doesn't mean Dunn couldn't have success on par with some of his smaller backs. He won't have success in the same way (i.e. getting to the outside), but he could be an inside zone runner just as effectively.
I think Meyer is also trying to save face and not lose a high-profile kid from within the state.
All that being said, I think Dunn has better options and I think Meyer would prefer a different kind of back. But I also think Meyer could find a use for him and not just have him sit on the bench for four years.
All being said though, it has to be mutual. Even if Meyer wants him, Brionte still has to commit to the system for his college career.
At the end of the day - Michigan football traditionally puts RBs in the NFL, Meyer has not.
We may put them there but they haven't exactly been all that successful.
Their development depends on themselves and the coaches at the next level at that point.
You're right, but high school kids are going to be more impressed by players who actually have success in the NFL. We all love Tim Biakabutuka, Tyrone Wheatley, Anthony Thomas, Mike Hart, and Chris Perry, but they never really did much in the NFL. Places like Miami (McGahee, James) and Oklahoma (Peterson, Murray) probably have more clout than Michigan right now when it comes to producing running backs.
Which is why I am very glad this is pretty much between Ohio State and Michigan.
Do you think that Miami and Oklahoma "produce" NFL running backs or do they recruit the guys that are destined for the NFL? This is serious question. I wonder what you think. I could see either answer being right, maybe a little of both.
I think running back is such a natural position based on athleticism that good running backs, for the most part, are going to find success at the next level. There's a certain amount of coaching for running backs, but it's much less technique oriented than most other positions. But Miami has obviously done a great job of identifying those "next level" players.
I think Michigan's running backs have been athletically inferior for the better part of 20 years, actually. Hart, Thomas, Perry, etc. - not many of them have been great athletes, but they're good athletes who had great offensive lines. Wheatley was a bit of a freak, though, and I think Toussaint is more athletically gifted than Hart, Thomas, and Perry, too. That doesn't mean Toussaint is better, because Toussaint isn't a very good blocker...but if we're talking about agility drills, speed drills, etc., I bet Toussaint would come out on top.
I think it is the goal of most coaches to recruit guys that are destined for the NFL. Some are better than others at developing talent (e.g. Kirk Ferentz), but they still want to start with the best talent possible.