Assistant Coaches Get Bonuses for Signing Recruits?
The folks on the Big10 network said that some assistant coaches at some universities get some significant bonuses for signing "big name" recruits and/or "4 or 5 star recruits".
Wow, talk about a scandal waiting to happen! Too much pressure to grease the palm of recruits.
Is this true? Does M do it?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^
I dont understand how that would be legal under the NCAA, not exactly the normal "performance" bonus. I get it if it was corporate America and you head hunted an employee away but yikes, scandal waiting to happen fo sho'
November 11th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
what rule would it be breaking?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
But beginning July 1 2011, it'll be against Department of Education regulations for any employee of a Title IV eligible school to receive an increase in compensation based on the number of students s/he secures enrollment for. So, if a school wants to be able to award federal grants or loans to any students, it better make sure that recruiters aren't getting bonuses strictly on the basis of the number of enrolled recruits.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:03 PM ^
I believe the rule you are quoting is only applicable to for-profit higher-ed institutions, which M and most other D1 schools are not.
November 16th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^
It's been enacted because of abuses in the for-profit sector, but it applies to everyone. My job is Financial Aid compliance at a state school, so I've had to get really familiar with these rules.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:34 PM ^
That it's possible to get a bonus from signing a 4* (Carlos Brown), and if you signed a 3* (Braylon Edwards, MIke Hart, and David Harris) you would just get a pat on the back.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:21 PM ^
If you've already secured a commitment from a player, it would be a lot easier, and cause a lot less trouble, to pay the folks who rate the recruits rather than the recruits themselves. (Assuming they go by the 4- and 5-start ratings of the usual recruiting sites.)
November 11th, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
I don't get how this would be considered wrong. HR divisions get paid bonuses for signing executive and middle management level talent.
What is wrong is when these recruiters/boosters/etc. grease these kids' palms. But a bonus for signing a kid? How is that unethical?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
that would explain everything.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:30 PM ^
Paying people on commission is not "illegal" but it does encourage high pressure sales and "questionable" techniques.
Recruiter to Booster: "we can get this recruit, but he needs some encouragement, if you know what I mean"
Booster: "yes, I do"
Recruit signs and assistant coach gets big bonus!
November 11th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
Without these bonuses there'd be no pressure to sign top-rated recruits.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:38 PM ^
So, only money motivates? Not the motivation to sign recruits to make your program better!
F my program unless I get paid.
Yeah, baby!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:11 PM ^
And bonuses for bowl games/winning championships are the only reason coaches want to win.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:17 PM ^
So competition, recognition and love for the game have nothing to do with it? Look at Lloyd and Joe Pa, they made/make pocket change compared to most coaches.
Most big time D1 coaches already make bank... I'd say money doesn't have anything to do with it, especially if they have lucrative contracts (like Rich Rod)
November 11th, 2010 at 3:25 PM ^
Football coaches choose their careers based on the easy hours and 40 hr/week schedule.
I'm running out of clearly sarcastic statements to make.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 PM ^
NO HOMO!?
November 16th, 2010 at 8:35 PM ^
.... at least now I do.
Above statement is hereby retracted. Pardon my inability to detect sarcasm.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:51 PM ^
This is why we make jokes about car salesmen and military recruiters. The bonuses may make you do somethings that are not ethical to get them.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:28 PM ^
concept to actually get extra money at your job for doing outstanding work. as in over above and beyond the minimum standard. I'll have to tell my boss about this one and I;m sure the American business model for compensation is gonna want to hear about this one too.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:37 PM ^
Nothing illegal about it, but could present moral challenges for some. If they want to give a bonus, do it based on the performance of the team after they are at school. Many times these 4 and 5 star recruits don't pan out. If they win a conference championship or bowl game etc. then entire staff gets bonus. Might provide an environment for less bs.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 PM ^
i'm failing to see the problem here.