Just read on Rivals mainboard DeAnthony Arnett is leaving Tenessee because of fathers declining health. Anyone hear anything on our front, Sparty is claiming he is a MSU lock
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
I'd assume since we just had 2 WR's verbal, that another one wouldn't be in the cards. Am I correct in this assumption?
I would assume that we would find room for him. If I recall, wasn't he a 4* guy across the board? We would take him, not only to get him but to keep him away from MSU.
The staff might be done with WR recruiting for this class. Arnett may transfer because of his father, but, I doubt it will be to UM. Before he comitted to Tennessee, he was higher on MSU than he was on Michigan.
He pretty much confused everybody with his recruitment, so it's hard to really saying MSU was higher than Michigan. I think the only thing that can be taken from his original recruitment is that Tenn. was number 1, and now that the person that recruited him was forced out he doesn't really want to be there anymore.
I wouldn't be surprised if neither Michigan or MSU get him at this point, both have met their numbers or have solid options going towards signing day. I also wouldn't be surprised if either picked him up. I think it will be much like his original recruitment again, where no one really knows for sure but 1000 insiders will tell you that they know.
He is transferring to be closer to his dad, I would say it is a pretty good chance he would transfer to Michigan or MSU, unless he went to a smaller Michigan school. Considering his situation though, I'm not sure why you would suggest he doesn't go to one of the two schools.
I'm glad we have you sitting in the recruiting meetings.
You could take 10 minutes and listen to Webb's recruiting updates on WTKA to find out that we're done with wide receiver recruiting for the '12 class. The staff wanted two in this class, and they got them.
Arnett isn't in the '12 class. Sam Webb is good but you don't need to just regurgiate everything the man says.
Does Sam Webb talk to coaches about recruiting? What if the coaches decide to change their minds? Do they say" hey we better call Mr Webb immediately and tell him everything".
Edit. Serious question. Why is it flamebait?
Our old recruiting buddy has brought Arnett's name up numerous times. Actually threw out this possibility weeks ago. I'm guessing there was an inside track...Arnett really liked Michigan, but HATED the spread.
From what was said - he wouldn't count against recruiting numbers, just against 85 scholarship numbers. Also, I believe he would get a hardship waiver and e able to play right away because of moving closer to his ill Dad.
UM is also still having receivers visit, so good have they're not done (Mondaris)
It would only go towards the scholarship totals, not the class of 2012. Simple as that.
We still need elite WR's and if we redshirt either Darboh or Chesson then that would stagger their eligibility. Plus wouldn't Arnett's schollie not count until 2013? If he wants to come, I see no reason why the coaches would not be interested.
CMU please CMU fingers crossed (with no expectations that it actually happens)
and you expect Enos to field a team capable of using Arnett's talents?---Bitter alum
This is not official, it's still just rumors. And if he were to transfer it would be to Michigan. FWIW he's been tweeting with Shane Morris this evening.
Quite honestly I don't want him - seems like a lot of baggage. But we are rather thin at WR...
What baggage? Just because he made fake commitment videos? I thought those were funny and on point with the whole recruiting culture (one which I somewhat follow, I might add). He's a UM guy at heart and I hope he does come to UM.
BTW - The Scout tweet from last week was a two parter: An announcement and a decision undone. I assume the announcement was the Big10/Pac12 collaboration. The other? I thought it ment a transfer coming in of someone we missed on. Arnett would fit the bill.
'undone' means that the B1G Is scrapping the idea of 9 conference games.
It's also the sweater song.
He's now just transferring to all the schools he committed to.
Yes, I'm recalling the fake commitment videos. I've never been a fan of kids that want all the attention. But I suppose it really is harmless.
Also, what makes you think he's a "UM guy at heart"? In other words, why didn't he commit to UM in the first place?
play in a spread offense
Makes sense. I didn't catch that the first time around
I'm very glad that we now have a staff with a more flexible attitude towards offensive and defensive schemes. When we were married to the spread on offense and 3-3-5 on defense, it alienated a lot of recruits.
goes both ways. Denard is the easy example: he wouldn't be here under a pro style regime. Jake Fisher is someone we lost to Oregon last year, in part because he wanted to play in a spread.
I agree with that logic under the 3-3-5 though. While the spread has been around for a while and has wide acceptance, a lot of recruits (and their HS coaches) didn't know what the hell a 3-3-5 was. I think that hurt us (Zettel's coach apparently didn't like it. Ironic that Hoke ran this at SDSU, and probably would have kept it had Rocky Long come with him to M.
I'm not arguing for or against any particular scheme; I just think it's dangerous to be overly inflexible about any of them. If your system is too rigid to adapt to players who aren't a perfect fit, you're going to miss out on a lot of talented guys.
Regardless of why Denard first came to Michigan, a big reason he's still here (when lots of people assumed he'd transfer) is because Hoke isn't so married to a pro-style that he can't adapt. If Fisher knew what kind of offense we'd run in 2011, he may have stayed. And while a lot of wideouts weren't interested in us under the previous staff, Hoke can tell them, "When you get here, we'll get you the ball." What we run now may or may not be what we run two years down the road. We'll adapt. I'm excited to see how we change to fit the personnel in the future.
Is there any reason to believe this other than tweets? I mean, this story is just coming out right now. What do we really know?
Isn't Ondre Pipkins also from Saginaw originally / have some ties to Saginaw? Maybe he and Shane Morris could tag-team Arnett's recruitment if the coaching staff decides that they want him on the roster.
Ondre has family in Saginaw and Roy Manning who is also from Saginaw is like a brother to him. Those Saginaw ties on our team could help us.
Don't forget Saginaw native Lamarr Woodley who was a big factor in Pipkins' love of the Maize & Blue.
From what I hear, there is interest in UM, but the only thing keeping him from coming here is finding a schollie for him.
I believe that there will be room for Michigan, as I talked about in today's "A few minor recuiting notes" Michigan was still showing interest in adding another reciever.
If the consensus was that the coaching staff would find room for Diggs, why couldn't they find room for Arnett?
Though Arnett is no slouch, I think the possibility of Diggs being great out weighs what has been seen out of Arnett thusfar. Arnett looks like someone who could be good (on a Hemingway to Arrington level), but has probably taken himself out of the likelihood of being really really good, which Diggs still has as he hasn't played a down of college ball yet.
I'd take another Hemingway or Arrington all day err day.
A big time recruit that has an extra year of seasoning and maturity. Plus its a minus for Sparty. What is not to like about this scenerio?
But I said he has the potential to be that. He may not be that good. The Michigan coaches may think they already have someone to that degree in the mix with the WR recruits they are bringing in. It may be an absolute stud or bust for them in this case, in which case Arnett doesn't appear to fit the mold, but Diggs might.
Again, not saying Arnett is bad or that he doesn't have the potential to be a very good player, just his upside is less, and the coaches at this point may be looking for something more.
Even if his upside isn't as high as Diggs, he's a player that, if what is rumored is true, wants to be back in the State of Michigan to be closer to his family. For me, there are only a few options here for him and Michigan is one of them. Meanwhile, it appears that Michigan isn't recruiting Diggs that hard and that he is probably going to end up somewhere else. I know what you're saying about upside, but you also have to weigh the guy's chances of coming to Michigan.
Whenever they hear Arnett? Sorry, but I had to ask.
I seriously thought about posting, "Transfered from 'Up All Night' back home for 'Arrested Development' movie."
You mean G.O.B.?
And if he transfers to Michigan, he can be Tobias Funke.
One of the best jokes from one of the best shows ever.
I hope he doesn't cirsumverent Ann Arbor on his way closer to home....
honestly I think where he goes is secondary to his reason for transferring. best of luck to him and his father where ever he ends up
Exactly. I hope his father improves and the kid can go back to completely enjoying his college years.
Wasn't it between us and Tennessee for him though? We don't really know how Hoke would handle transfers at this stage of his tenure but it seems to me like he would prefer to get his own guys that really want to be at Michigan.
Does a transfer go into that year's recruiting class even though he has to sit out a year or do they just count against the total scholarship count without affecting the 25 a year limit?
it seems like if the player has to sit out 2012 anyway, then they should not count as a schollie for that year, but I could be wrong.