yes plz
Are "we" better than OSU right now?
October 30th, 2012 at 9:24 AM | 
Before Nebraska, I would have
Before Nebraska, I would have
October 30th, 2012 at 10:17 AM |
How long are we gonna keep
How long are we gonna keep
How long are we gonna keep saying "Notre Dame is overrated". In a year where a lot of people were picking them to have 4+ losses (maybe even 6), they've gone undefeated, and have a great shot to have a perfect season
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
October 31st, 2012 at 9:54 AM |
Someone has to balance out
Someone has to balance out
Someone has to balance out the homer that is Lou Holtz.
Go Blue. That it all.
My MGoYard
October 30th, 2012 at 10:17 AM |
We haven't beaten OSU in Columbus since 2000
We haven't beaten OSU in Columbus since 2000
And that streak isn't going to change this year, even if Denard is healthy. Our record at home under Hoke is still unblemished, but on the road it's a different story (like it is for most teams). During the regular season under Brady Hoke, Michigan has not once gone on the road and beaten a team with a winning record for the season. Our mediocre offense (6th and 7th in scoring and total offense, respectively in the conference) does not support our excellent defense, and that's a killer on the road against potent offenses, which OSU has.
A critical aspect of our mediocre offense is that outside of Denard, we have no running game of any consequence, while OSU has two of the top ten rushers in the conference in Miller and Hyde.
Big Ten statistics here: http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/stats/2012-2013/confstat.html
October 30th, 2012 at 10:27 AM |
How about we let the next
How about we let the next
How about we let the next coupel of games play out before we start comparing UM to OSU.
October 30th, 2012 at 10:45 AM |
Tough Question
Tough Question
If you look at records, yes they are better than us. They found a way to come from behind in an improbably situation and win with their backup QB on the road, and we...well imploded. We have a similar style of QBs. Our defense has been more consistent, but theirs seems to play well in big games like MSU and PSU. If you look at our common opponents, they beat MSU 17-16, we beat them 12-10. They beat Nebraska 68-38, we lost 23-9. They beat Purdue 29-22 in OT, we beat them 44-13. What does that tell you? IDK
It seems to me that their offense is more consistent and our defense is more consistent. But, I do think they have the talent on defense to win as is evident in their big games. They obviously haven't played a top 10 team like ND or Bama. I may get negged for this but ultimately I think they beat us this year because of our lack of consistency on offense and even more so on the road. But, I also think we would beat them at home. So, I really have no idea, who is a better team as we are both good at some things, and deficient at others.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.
October 30th, 2012 at 12:04 PM |
Winning with their backup QB
Winning with their backup QB
Winning with their backup QB on the road? What game are you talking about?
October 30th, 2012 at 12:49 PM |
Winning w/ BU QB
Winning w/ BU QB
Purdue
October 30th, 2012 at 8:25 PM |
Purdue was at Ohio State
Purdue was at Ohio State
Purdue was at Ohio State though. Guiton played one series at Indiana and one or two series at MSU, but Braxton came back in for both of them. I'm not sure which road game he's talking about.
October 30th, 2012 at 11:11 AM |
Hard to say how good OSU is.
Hard to say how good OSU is.
Hard to say how good OSU is. They have had the good fortune of playing just above their level of competition in most of their games. Their worst games have been against their worst competition. Is that luck, or good coaching? I have been watching football for over 30 years and I still am not sure. I do know that if the OSU team that showed up against Cal, Purdue, or UAB had shown up against Penn State or Nebraska, OSU would not be undefeated.
October 30th, 2012 at 11:33 AM |
We've entered Bizarro world
We've entered Bizarro world
where Michigan and OSU partisans are arguing strenuously about how much worse their own recruiting has been than their rival's.
October 30th, 2012 at 11:39 AM |
probably
probably
not
Thank god for our D.
October 30th, 2012 at 12:00 PM |
UM vs OSU
UM vs OSU
This is honestly a fun comparison because the strengths and weaknesses of both teams are completely evident. OSU is great at stopping the run (via RB or running QB), but struggles with spread QB's who deliver accurate passes in the intermediate game. When teams have not been able to make OSU pay for this weakness, OSU has won by multiple scores (See Miami, Nebraska). So the question comes down to Denard, as it should. Because as good as Michigan's D has been, I don't think they will completely stop Miller, Hyde, the Smiths, Philly Brown, and Stoneburner. OSU will score in this game. First, will Denard be healthy enough to be full go in The Game? And if he is, will he be accurate enough to exploit OSU's weakness? I don't think Denard goes on the road and runs for 200. Meyer will make Denard's injured arm beat OSU. I don't see it happening this year for Michigan simply because Denard has never proven he could go on the road for a big game and beat someone through the air even when healthy.
October 30th, 2012 at 12:27 PM |
How about...
How about...
is Braxton better than Denard? That should start some fireworks. Braxton is getting the Heisman hype right now, but when the two college careers are complete, who will have the numbers? What would Urban do with Denard? What would he do with Devin? For my money, Devin and Braxton are twins, and if Devin had the starting job thrust upon him as a (rs?) freshman would he be getting Heisman hype now?
October 30th, 2012 at 12:59 PM |
Not Really.
Not Really.
For it to work correctly, you need to compare Sophomore Miller to Sophomore Robinson as that was the first full year of starting for both. Braxton has a higher ceiling. He has better passing mechanics and a stronger arm than sophomore Denard and is a different runner. He has about 25-30 pounds on Denard as well as a couple inches which allow him to power through tackles a little more. Denard is faster, but Braxton is shiftier. Braxton also turns the ball over less as a sophomore than senior Denard does. From watching both, I'd take Braxton and it's not because I'm biased. Braxton is just a better run/pass combo.
And their careers won't be looked at just for numbers. Otherwise, Graham Harrell would be considered one of the greatest college QBs in history.
And no, Braxton and Devin are not twins. If Devin was as good as Braxton he would never have been moved to WR. He had plenty of opportunity to show the coaches that he is a QB.
October 30th, 2012 at 4:51 PM |
I won't debate your statement
I won't debate your statement
I won't debate your statement thats Braxton is a better passer and stronger with respect to fighting off tackles because you're probably right, but I think you are 100% incorrect when you say that Braxton is "shiftier" than Denard. Watch more video and see how Denard changes direction at full speed - there are very, very few runners at any level that can do that at such a high rate of speed.
And you're wrong that their careers will not be looked at just for numbers. Braxton will not have won anything significant in his time at OSU due to circumstances beyond his control and everyone will remember Denard's record-breaking performances for Michigan (especially if he becomes the all-time leading rusher among QBs).
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 30th, 2012 at 9:24 PM |
On what are you basing your
On what are you basing your
On what are you basing your prediction about Braxton not winning anything "significant?"
October 31st, 2012 at 12:14 PM |
Braxton Miller is
Braxton Miller is
Braxton Miller is shiftier/has better moves than Denard. He's on Reggie Bush's level for open field moves. It's silly. Denard has strong cutbacks and is faster/accelerates faster, but if you don't think Braxton's moves are better, you haven't watched a lot of Braxton Miller's moves. Also, I'm not sure how you can say Miller won't win anything. He's about to have his junior and senior seasons as the Heisman favorite and he will be leading a team that is projected to go undefeated? Barring injury (which, very possible, knock on wood), OSU is the safest bet to win the B1G/go 12-0 next year?
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
October 30th, 2012 at 1:19 PM |
Ohio is better than us right
Ohio is better than us right
Ohio is better than us right now
John 14:6 - Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me."
October 30th, 2012 at 3:22 PM |
I don't disagree with this.
I don't disagree with this.
I don't disagree with this.
Formerly akron_wolverine and columbus_wolverine. New home, new name. A year in Columbus was enough.
October 30th, 2012 at 1:57 PM |
Strength of schedule
Strength of schedule
UM is in a virtual tie with Ohio according to the Sagarin PREDICTOR ratings (which are the most accurate in predicting future game outcomes). Why? According to Sagarin, UM has played the #1 and #2 teams in the nation--both on the road--while Ohio hasn't played anybody in the top twenty. Seemingly, their toughest was Neb=#25, but they played that at home. Thus, if you subtract 3 points from Neb's ratings for the Ohio home field advantage, Ohio's toughest game actually was MSU, a #35-rated team that they beat by one point.
Also, when Robinson played most of the game (up until last week), UM had nearly a 3 point lead over Ohio in the Sagarin ratings--meaning that the game in Columbus would have been a tossup (after spotting Ohio a 3 point advantage for home field).
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm
michelin
October 30th, 2012 at 4:25 PM |
I guarantee The Game will be
I guarantee The Game will be
I guarantee The Game will be close. I have my doubts based on Hoke's road record that we will pull it out, but with our defense anything's possible. As for being better than Ohio, Michigan always is.
Hail to the Victors!
October 30th, 2012 at 6:22 PM |
With no word on Denard's health and the
With no word on Denard's health and the
current(RIGHT NOW) state of the team, I say, and it pains me greatly to say this....NO WAY! There are problems up front on offense, the QB spot is a HUGE question if Denard is hurt and the secondary seems to be giving up more big plays. Although our pass defense is rated no. 1 in the country.
Denard being healthy and the oline being able to open holes is the key to the whole show. If the running game works, we're competitive against anyone in the B1G. If Denard is out or we can't rush the ball, we're in HUGE trouble. It all hinges on Denard's health/ No offense to Bellomy. He's a redshirt freshman. The poor kid has seen no action and the receivers weren't catching for him.
This week is a big indicator of where the team is.
What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.
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Before Nebraska, I would have said we get the edge. After Nebraksa, Michigan has shown to be inept on offense against better defenses (this has been the case for the past several years!!!). OSU ranks pretty good in run defense and terribly in pass defense. What does Mich like to do? Run. I was pretty confidene that Michigan woudl win against Nebraka with our defense getting better, but now, I have very little confidence.
Having said that, we almost beat Notre Dame... but they are overrated.
Go Blue. That it all.
My MGoYard