Archie Collins earned a promotion

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:16 PM
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Archie Collins earned a promotion

http://search.msu.edu/people/index.php?uid=151406&prev=Collins

Looks like Archie Collins is now a coaching aid for coach d-bag. You know the one that runs the epitome of clean program. Looks like that the Gholston and Fred Smith commits finally paid off for him. On the bright side, we may have a shot at Southeastern kids now. I forwarded this and the information that Will actually lived with Archie,to Rosendouche for his next investigation. Seems like a slight conflict of interest to me. Just sayin.

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:22 PM | At least they waited (Score:1)
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almost 2 months after signing day. I'm not surprised that there hasn't been any press about this.

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:27 PM | Saban and Tressel (Score:1)
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have taught dantonio well. Would be great to see this hit the MSM, but it won't. The freep would just find a way to spin this into a positive family values take for MSU

March 30th, 2010 at 3:27 PM | Nice find. IIRC, I don't (Score:1)
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Nice find. IIRC, I don't remember Southeastern's head coach showing much disdain for Michigan. Too bad it cost us a shot Smith, Gholston, and Hankins, but hopefully it ends there.

March 30th, 2010 at 3:28 PM | So Collins sends 5* Will (Score:1)
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So Collins sends 5* Will Gholston (who just happens to live with Collins) to MSU and 2 months later has a job working for Dantonio? What a coincidence.

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

March 30th, 2010 at 3:38 PM | Not to be the douche... (Score:1)
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Am i the only one noticing the irony here. The op put "earned" in quotes as if to indicate that Collins had not earned this job. I think landing 4 and 5 star players in EL is the definition of "earning" a promotion.

Is he a douche? Yes.
Should we be pissed that he swayed kids away? Yes
Should we be pissed he seems to have poised kids against us? Yes
but does that mean he didn't work his tail off to get hired? No.

Hopefully his departure will signal a changing of the guard and lead to the talent from SE coming here to AA

March 30th, 2010 at 3:42 PM | I suppose anything is (Score:1)
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I suppose anything is possible. I removed the quotes, but I guess I would tend to lean toward the fact that he hand delivered a H.S. All-American LB to them, but I do agree that this is a positive development in regards to recruiting that school regardless.

March 30th, 2010 at 5:07 PM | We'll see. I can't imagine he (Score:1)
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We'll see. I can't imagine he accepted the job before hand-picking his replacement.....

March 30th, 2010 at 8:43 PM | He wasn't the HC at SEastern (Score:1)
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He wasn't the HC at SEastern was he? I thought he was DC or something like that. Lol. High school DC to a Big Ten job? That doesn't make much sense to me. I don't know how much say a HS DC would have in naming his replacement, but now he does have a familiarity with the SEastern coaching staff, which cant hurt MSU's recruiting any.

March 30th, 2010 at 9:25 PM | Yeah, he was the DC for (Score:1)
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Yeah, he was the DC for Southeastern. By saying "hand-picking his replacement" I wasn't referring to a replacement DC, but more of a "resident MSU booster" somewhere inside the program.

March 30th, 2010 at 3:58 PM | Thats not the way it works (Score:1)
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Yes, he "earned the position". But he also earned it skirting the rule book. You're not supposed to have players living with coaches. I doubt anything comes of it, but the NCAA should at least take the time to investigate.

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:30 PM | Honestly, who didn't see (Score:1)
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Honestly, who didn't see something like this involving Archie Collins coming?

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:32 PM | this is (Score:1)
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almost john callipari-esque...

so is archie gone from southeastern then?

March 30th, 2010 at 3:43 PM | Prediction: Detroit (Score:1)
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Prediction: Detroit Renaissance Coach receives job from Michigan State a month after signing day 2011.

It's definitely going to feel good beating them this year.

March 30th, 2010 at 3:42 PM | Lol. Pretty much all I can (Score:1)
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Lol.

Pretty much all I can say about this. L-O-freaking-L.

http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.com (UPDATED: 5/27)

March 30th, 2010 at 3:44 PM | Des this change the status of any potential recruits? (Score:1)
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Any chance at Lawrence Thomas now?

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:46 PM | thomas (Score:1)
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is at Renaissance. And it'll be a cold day in hell before UM is welcome at Renaissance.

March 30th, 2010 at 3:48 PM | It might if Thomas went to (Score:1)
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It might if Thomas went to Southeastern and not Renaissance.

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:55 PM | My fault I got the 2 schools (Score:1)
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My fault I got the 2 schools confused. Are there any Southeastern recruits that may be back in the fold?

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:50 PM | This (Score:1)
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was obvious from the beginning.

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March 30th, 2010 at 3:52 PM | You know it's funny (Score:1)
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Last year, there was a whole lot of whine coming out of east lansing about how Robert Bolden's dad was allegedly offered some sort of job with PSU. Now that this blatant case of quid pro quo funny business has come out, I'll be interested to hear the sparty justification.

March 30th, 2010 at 4:07 PM | Archie Collins (Score:1)
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I find it funny that he basically sent Gholston to State and then "just by coincidence gets a job two months later." What great family values they have over in East Lansing.

March 30th, 2010 at 4:31 PM | I'm just guessing you got this (Score:1)
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From ToB

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March 30th, 2010 at 4:48 PM | "coach d-bag"? What is this, (Score:1)
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"coach d-bag"?

What is this, RCMB South?

March 30th, 2010 at 6:08 PM | Freep Headline... (Score:1)
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"UM Skirts Rules in Recruitment of Jeremy Jackson"

March 30th, 2010 at 6:45 PM | So you forwarded this to (Score:1)
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So you forwarded this to Rosenberg? Now we'll get this headline: Working Hard From the Ground Up, the Archie Collins Story. Then it will be a story about how nice guys don't always finish last...

Hail to the Victors!

March 30th, 2010 at 6:59 PM | perry (Score:1)
dex
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watson

great and omniscient Grand Poobah of the WLA

March 30th, 2010 at 7:13 PM | OOPS (Score:1)
dex
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silly me pointing out glass houses

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March 30th, 2010 at 8:00 PM | Yeah...Whatever happened to the UM coach (Score:1)
jBdub
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who hired him?

March 30th, 2010 at 8:01 PM | Oh yeah... (Score:1)
jBdub
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Our AD fired him for cheating.

March 30th, 2010 at 8:14 PM | uh huh (Score:1)
dex
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eventually

after they got caught

a few years later

with proof

and evidence

and shit like that

and ncaa sanctions

not message board conjecture from some tinfoil hat keyboard duster addict

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March 30th, 2010 at 8:38 PM | Is there any major part of (Score:1)
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Is there any major part of the UM AD still in place from when Watson was hired, though? Several Athletic Directors, three new basketball coaches, three new staffs. . .two new football coaches. . .I mean, I guess Red Berenson was still around, but this certainly isn't a recent thing. And, Michigan was slapped with sanctions for the Fisher era, as they should have been. Maybe it wasn't specifically for the Watson thing, but I don't think it was completely independent of that, either. And so I guess the issue is. . .MSU is unlikely to face sanctions for this. Not many people look back on the Fisher era and think, "man, I wish we could have Steve Fisher coaching U-M again, he certainly had his shit together." Perry Watson was a part of a very different U-M, whereas Archie Collins is part of the MSU that is right now, the MSU that is painted as a very clean and well-run program, as opposed to that hick running his program into the ground over in Ann Arbor.

March 30th, 2010 at 8:58 PM | right (Score:1)
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so nobody on this board is going to admit there is 0.0000 evidence of any wrong doing outside of the insane ramblings of wannabe brian that ANYTHING is wrong here?

cool beans dudes

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:05 PM | The obsession you people have (Score:1)
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The obsession you people have with me is so amusing.

Oh, by the way: I wasn't the one who brought this one to light. Thanks for playing though.

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:08 PM | non-chalant accusations of obsession (Score:1)
dex
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i'd expect nothing less

and even the "thanks for playing" card

i can feel your neckbeard of smug un-earned superiority scratching me way up here in the north country

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:13 PM | Right, it's not like you (Score:1)
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Right, it's not like you clowns haven't made it a habit of following me around on here, leaving endless comments on my blog, etc.

Sorry you feel I have "smug un-earned superiority." Maybe I should change my blog to a faux-communist theme just to be different and try to stand out. Hell, I could even have a chat room on there with a bunch of my buddies and feel cool by bashing MGoBlog readers all day!

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:19 PM | uh (Score:1)
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endless? i think you have me confused for someone else, bro-ham.

and for those keeping score, we have

- accusations of obsession

- thanks for playing

and

- clowns

up next on the docket here on sports talk radio, wannabrian is gonna bring his take strong and jack a slingbox with his huge call of the day

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:29 PM | you know (Score:1)
dex
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i read this again and since i've elephant gunned quite a few of my brain cells away over the years i thought maybe i just forgot some of it. but it's so nuts - i can't seem to find any of these endless comments that i've left or any trace of this "following you around" that i'm accused of.

it's odd. it's almost like you just make up conspiracies and agendas and misdeeds in your mind and then project them into the real world with no real proof and just kinda expect people to believe them because, hey, you're .... someone.

but you'd never do something like that.

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March 30th, 2010 at 10:33 PM | RAWR (Score:1)
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Teh Interwebz iz reel world.

Challenge Accepted.

March 31st, 2010 at 9:37 AM | Dude (Score:1)
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What are you talking about?

Nobody from the WLA is following you around here or leaving endless comments on your blog.

I left you an endless comment on your blog, in that it was lengthy......but you never published it.

Maybe you're confusing that, and the WLA, for me.

Its water under the bridge for me, but if you're going to accuse us of stalking you and leaving drive by commentary on your blog, it should be pointed out that a signed critique of specifically something you wrote, accompanied with compliments towards your work otherwise, you chose to censure.

Snap out of it, OB. Dont make it sound like the WLA has made you a target. That's just another fantasy

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:06 PM | Didn't you just compare him (Score:1)
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Didn't you just compare him to Perry Watson? So, surely, you must think there's a little bit shifty about the high school coach of a highly-touted prospect jumping to the school said prospect committed to, two months later?

March 30th, 2010 at 9:10 PM | kinda (Score:1)
dex
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i'm just pointing out how hollow this shell of righteous anger is

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:41 PM | That's exactly my point, (Score:1)
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That's exactly my point, though. That's a Michigan from long ago. I have never known a Michigan that had a Perry Watson. That was the early 1990s. Hey, maybe Fielding Yost pushed a student out of his way at Michigan Stadium when he was AD, but that's not Michigan now, is it? I mean, I guess you can advocate apathy on the part of all parties involved, but, I don't know, I think there has to be a degree of transparency in college athletics. Just because Michigan has been found guilty of something bad at some point does not mean that we cannot ever blow the whistle on someone else. And you've admitted you find something shady about the situation; it seems as if you only want to hold your perceived neutrality over the heads of everyone else. But on the surface, this looks to be a pretty strange coincidence, and just because we're fans of a team that, under a different AD and a different basketball coach, hired a similar character, does not mean we have to just act as if there is nothing unusual about the situation.

March 30th, 2010 at 9:45 PM | i like you (Score:1)
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i can get behind that reasoning

but starting the topic off with "lololol coach d-bag" sub-idiocy and just straight up convicting msu of MISDEEDZ off the bat is a wee bit more overblown than pointing out a strange coincidence. again, when there's evidence - like, say, a flipped SUV leading to a federal investigation with a trial and shit or even just a letter from the NCAA - i'll get on board with MSU IS THE CHEATERZ a little more fervently. this is all based on message board paranoia. there's no real evidence of ANYTHING other than the hire.

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March 30th, 2010 at 9:52 PM | I agree, but, come on, man, (Score:1)
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I agree, but, come on, man, welcome to the internet. It's MGoBoard. It's not like this discussion will change a thing. It's perfectly harmless.

March 30th, 2010 at 9:54 PM | Well (Score:1)
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It makes Michigan fans look like a bunch of paranoid idiots not unlike those militia weirdos. If you are okay with that, well, you are more accepting than I am.

March 30th, 2010 at 9:55 PM | you aren't wrong (Score:1)
dex
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but it's kinda boring to hold back every single time.

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March 30th, 2010 at 10:04 PM | dex, I've given The Other (Score:1)
Magnus
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dex, I've given The Other Brian my fair share of flak for his conspiracy theories and whatnot.

But he had virtually nothing to do with this thread/article until you brought him into it, other than having discussed Archie Collins in a few blog posts from a couple months ago.

And by the way, your "wannabe brian" and "cool beans dudes" comments put you on pretty much the same level as TOB's "thanks for playing" and "clowns" comments.

I usually like your comments, but you're out of line this time.

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March 30th, 2010 at 10:07 PM | magnus (Score:1)
dex
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nobody talked about archie collins until the 60,000 word tome on his alleged sins

this is a symptom of a larger disease

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March 31st, 2010 at 6:37 AM | Regardless of whether we paid (Score:1)
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Regardless of whether we paid attention or not, the pipeline from Southeastern to MSU is real. And unless that's a fake article, Archie Collins' new connection to MSU is real.

So I don't see the problem.

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March 31st, 2010 at 9:32 AM | you're wrong (Score:1)
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people were most definitely talking about archie collins and Gholston's recruitment before the blog at genuinelysarcastic. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Not sure if you're just playing devil's advocate, or if you just have some personal vendetta against that guy, but the fact that collins is now at MSU confirms everyone's suspicions.

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