Apparently I have to say this: treat recruits with respect

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Brandon posted an article about 2016 recruit Teryn Savage, and this is his takeaway from his experience at MGoBlog:

https://twitter.com/TerynSavage/status/382644691738451968

So congratulations, leftrare, MGoBrewMom, JuggernautRides, and chitownblue2, and the other people in that thread who insulted the kid for no reason. Guess what: people are interested to see what people say about them on the internet, and now a potential recruit doesn't want to talk to Brandon. 

If you think that 2016 is a magic land from which news cannot come, don't read it. We're going to report on kids that are being recruited. 

Going forward, anything that could be interpreted as an insult to a blameless high school kid will result in a no-warning ban. Even if that interpretation is crazy. Any "pedo" references will also result in a ban. 

In conclusion, guh.

thisisme08

September 24th, 2013 at 8:42 PM ^

Yeah, I'm going to have to say that what MGoBrewMom said is not harmful in anyway shape or form.  I mean good lord, in Monday's recruiting post i(bottom of page) Ace says "I can't even bring myself to tag '2016 recruiting' yet and here goes a 2017 commit to LSU."  

I view both of these comments in the same context; that recruiting is streching so far out that kids that are being recruited are less young adults (juniors/seniors) and more..well kids. End of story, not comparing a boy to a girl simply saying these kids are starting to look more and more like the ones still playing hide and seek on the playground. 

Brian, if you feel so strongly that its the right of the blog to cover these kids (despite being a part of the problem) and implementing such a draconian and arbitrarly enforced policy then I suggest turning comments off for those posts and/or locking the treads when posted if thats not possible.  

TheGhostofChappuis

September 24th, 2013 at 8:44 PM ^

First of all, moderation is by nature arbitrary.  There's no other way to do it.  Second, it's not draconian.  It's a very simple rule about making extra sure you're respectful to recruits.  This policy really shouldn't be controversial.

thisisme08

September 25th, 2013 at 9:08 AM ^

I've been a member of various forums/chatrooms since I was 12 and I can tell you that you can clearly differeniate between banhammer offenses and simply removing a post. 

The type of policy Dear Leader is advocating is that if he thinks a post goes to far then boom banhammer leveled.  I've seen many a forum die because the Admin got way too power hungry.

Dear Leaders refusual to admit that he is part of the problem is another thing that is rubbing people the wrong way, especially after the Picture Pages treatment Dat Bull got.  Simple way to solve all of this; lock Coach Browns threads, the content still gets posted and the kid still gets exposure.     

mooseman

September 24th, 2013 at 8:25 PM ^

Several of those were more concerned with third party attention on a high school sophmore for the gratuitous enjoyment of a college football fans. They said absolutely nothing to insult this young man. Agree or disagree with their position but at least represent it accurately 

mooseman

September 24th, 2013 at 9:03 PM ^

Come on yourself. She said he looked young and said he looked as young as hers which happened to be a girl of 10. Now I know that the last thing a teenage boy wants to do is look younger but there was no malice there. Anyway, I pointed out that a few pointed out his youthful appearance and even if you deem that insulting, many of those singled out were discussing the attn on sophmores. 

gopoohgo

September 24th, 2013 at 8:50 PM ^

to interpret Taryn's emotions for him. Whatever YOU interpret as innocuous, HE interpreted as an insult. Big interview from the largest UM blog....and he's compared to a 10 year old girl. Sure he won't take some sh*t for that from friends. This blog really does have some douchebags on here. If you don't like recruiting news, just fu*king ignore it. No need raining on a kid's parade debating the ethics of recruiting coverage, child exploitation, and freaking Penn State in his thread

TIMMMAAY

September 25th, 2013 at 5:51 PM ^

I'm not 100% yet, but I'm leaning towards saying these interviews are just one step too far for this here format. It's strange, because this blog had no problems regurgitating interviews, digging up whatever bits of info possible on recruits. I'm still reading through this thread, but that's my feeling so far. 

Having said that, Brian's response seems heavy handed. I reserve the right to change my mind if someone sways me otherwise by the end of this thread. 

mastodon

September 24th, 2013 at 10:10 PM ^

I'm an avid reader of the site, and often get a good laugh from some genuinely witty, off-the-cuff posts.  But I too am incrfeasingly annoyed with the number of embarrassingly obvious and "clever' sophomoric posts.  Middle-schoolers?  I hope so for their sake.

What also sucks is the frequency with which good healthy threads quickly digress into off-topic bitch-fests over the stupidest things.  Seinfeld threads...but not funny.

I also frequent 11W.  While not a douche-free site (none are), the threads stay refreshingly on-topic.

BTW, bitching about thread content is never off-topic.

washington4136

September 24th, 2013 at 8:29 PM ^

Agree on the new rule.. I mean I've did some research and savage has done about a dozen interviews 2 which were videos.. with sites like Rivals, 247 & Scout. Someone must have taught him how to answer questions well and stay calm. Very mature to be only a sophmore. I've also heard some rumors about him skipping a grade.. guess this means he was class of 2017 but reclassed for high school football.. don't agree with that decision

Brown Bear

September 24th, 2013 at 8:31 PM ^

I didn't see anyone complaining about George Campbell or Shane Morris or any other recruits that were just sophomores but were being covered on this site. George Campbell committed before his junior year. Where was the outrage about him being covered? Stop making up defenses for a case by case basis people. If you don't like the fact that college football recruiting starts earlier and earlier then don't follow it. It's that simple. If you have nothing nice to say about a KID don't say anything at all.

goblueram

September 25th, 2013 at 1:11 AM ^

"If you don't like the fact that college football recruiting starts earlier and earlier then don't follow it. It's that simple."

This is my strategy.  I hope that the people who make part of their living by recruiting will do their jobs.  It's weird to me, so I don't follow it.  

MGoBrewMom

September 24th, 2013 at 8:38 PM ^

I am seriously sorry!! beyond words. my only comnent was that he looks really young. it probably had more to do with my being old. I don't question anyone recruiting him. geez. not even a little. huge, huge apologies! I would personally apologize to the kid if it weren't a violation. I really did not see my comments as disparaging to him, but clearly someone else saw otherwise.

TheGhostofChappuis

September 24th, 2013 at 8:49 PM ^

I don't think there was much wrong with what you said.  It could be a little insulting to a young man in high school, but there's definitely some overreaction here. 

CooperLily21

September 24th, 2013 at 10:51 PM ^

I agree. I think this is more of a "tip of the iceberg" kind of reaction to weeks/months/years of disrespectful and insulting comments. I bet that Brian regrets calling you out specifically and please do not let it affect how you contribute here. I've always appreciated your comments in general.

Michigan Arrogance

September 24th, 2013 at 8:49 PM ^

i wouldn't worry about it. there was literally NOTHING in that thread that would reasonably lead to a personal insult.

the kid looked really young, perhaps as young as your daughter, who is 10-12.

I can't believe this is even an issue.

maizenbluenc

September 24th, 2013 at 9:22 PM ^

The article says the kid is 6'-2" 180lbs and a sophomore. Granted, his picture certainly doesn't look that way.

I get that the comments about him being 10-12 were exaggerations to make a point, but those comments were making fun of him. Then it really got embarrassing with the whole creeper van thing.

Can you imagine his friends and grandmother going to read that thread? It was embarrassing to him.

Michigan Arrogance

September 24th, 2013 at 9:51 PM ^

wasn't the creeper van thing a meme perpetuated (if not invented) by someone who is or was paid to provide content for this site?

 

the comment about age was not 'making fun' of him, it's was a comment on how crazy it is for people to be interested in a 14-16 HS Soph. who may or may not be on the M football coaching staff's radar to be recruited.

Brian is passing the buck on this one.

smwilliams

September 24th, 2013 at 8:51 PM ^

Honestly, I read the exchange he posted to Twitter (the impetus for this whole thing) and I saw nothing malicious in your comment. It seems to me that even the kid might not have been crazy bothered (based on his tweet), but Brian felt it appropriate to take action for a variety of reasons.

 

Erik_in_Dayton

September 24th, 2013 at 9:11 PM ^

I can understand a 15 year old not liking being called young-looking (we are all tough guys at that age), but it's hardly a big deal. Hell, he'll be 18 in the blink of an eye, and none of this will even be an issue.

Wee-Bey Brice

September 24th, 2013 at 8:39 PM ^

I never understood the stereotypes about M fans until I started spending a lot of time here. Now I can honestly say, I get it. Im so glad I wasn't around for the Mlive days, it might've ruined the internet for me. 

maizenbluenc

September 24th, 2013 at 8:45 PM ^

1) don't post pictures of the younger guys. The picture is what made people uneasy.

2) that thread should have been locked, and comments removed. It went embarassingly wrong.

3) reach out Teryn's parents or coach and explain people were more reacting to the thought of reporting on a sophomore and how it feels uneasy in this day and age, than making fun of Teryn.

 

Also, thanks gang, now Teryn's going to want to kick some butt on Thursday ...

snoopblue

September 24th, 2013 at 8:41 PM ^

Unbelievable. MGoBlog has become a model of what a dedicated/professional (well, when we are not losing to Akron and Connecticut..lol) fanbase looks like. It's also one hell of a recruiting tool, IMO. So if you say something stupid like that, get the fuck out. I hope you get banned and hope you never come back. It's one thing to criticize coaches for a job they are paid to do, but this is something different all together.

TheGhostofChappuis

September 24th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^

Out of curiousity, what do think was particularly offensive about the comments?

It sounds like the worst thing that happened was a mom comparing a high school kid to a couple of her younger daughters.  That hardly warrants the kind of anger present in this thread.

blueblueblue

September 24th, 2013 at 8:41 PM ^

Looked at the tweets and the thread, and what am I missing here? This seems like quite an over-reaction. I guess someone just wants to be Mr. Tough Guy. 

Also, I dont see anything wrong with asking a 15 year old where he wants to go to college, I just don't see why anyone would want to.