Paging Ricardo Miller.
that is nice bonus change
Paging Ricardo Miller.
He seems to have shot at it, I would like to see our offense really bring the heat this season and have one of the receivers next year start with the the #1 on their jersey.
You mean Roy Roundtree?
He probably won't get it, but I would love to see Odoms in the #1 because of they way he plays. He blocks really well, which a lot of receivers don't want to do. There was the strectch where he dropped some balls but he does what he does well.
If nothing else, we at least seem to have competition for the jersey.
"At the time, the Michigan Daily cited a police report stating that Stonum, then 18, blew a 0.10 on a Breathalyzer, above the 0.02 limit for a minor to drive."
I thought the limit for a minor to drive was 0.00?
For a minor at any time is .00.
Two different things, but yea, the freep...
Look it up. Law was passed based upon religious ceremonies. He'd have to prove its connection but it IS legal
I'm not saying he should be kicked off the team, but a DUI is not an MIP. Every college kids drinks. Many get MIPs. Very, very few get DUIs. I'm surprised some people are brushing this off like it's no big deal.
Then add to the fact that he failed to report for drug tests nine times? That's bad.
The pull quotes are misleading. Stonum has already been punished by RR for the DUI. He sat out a game last season. So, that is done.
The new infraction, and the one he went to jail for, is not fulfilling the terms of his probation. There may be some new punishment from RR for that. We don't know.
That's a good clarification. I didn't mean to say that Stonum should be punished for the DUI - that's in the past and has been done. But some people above are brushing off the DUI like it's not a big deal. And when you add it to the parole violations, it's a definite pattern that should probably lead to missed time on the field (and not just running steps).
Doesn't it seem like he went home for the summer or went on some trips, which violated his probation? 9x in 63 days: let's say he went back to TX for a week or 10 days or something, and his probation people figured this out and called him every day he was gone, and then he randomly missed one 2 months later or 2 months prior? And the fact that one of the charges is leaving the state without permission. . . makes me think a scenario like this took place.
Regardless, it's a bonehead move on his part, and it's obviously not like he said to the coaching staff, "hey, guys, I'm on probation, but I'm gonna head to TX for 4th of July and a week after. Make sure no one misses me." All in all, though, irresponsible by him. And as for the stadium steps, they can/should be "voluntary." Just like they were for Joppru, Braylon, et. al. That rule, to my knowledge, hasn't changed; there has to be a way to do it within the rules. Perhaps the "punishment" that we were meting out during the summers past that went over the "mandatory" 10 hour-per-week summer max were some sort of group conditioning sessions or something. There's GOT to be a way to make him run stadium stairs at 6 am or something without running afoul of NCAA rules.
I think Roh and Odoms should go beat up some nerds to try and draw some attention away from this situation.
That he "failed to submit to random piss tests nine times in 63 days" could mean that:
a) he missed 9 piss tests in 63 days, OR
b) he was required to appear for 9 piss tests over a 63 day span (i.e. one per week), and failed to reach the required total of 9. That could theoretically mean that he missed one test.
I don't know the procedure for post-DUI probation... anyone have an idea of which of these two is more likely?
It's most likely he was required to submit to alcohol testing X many times per week, like Monday, Wednesday, Friday by 9:00 am. Or he may have been required to submit to random alcohol testing, where he's assigned a color or a number that designates testing frequenct/report days and times. The color or number would randomally be called throughtout the week and the responsibility would fall on the offender to find out if they have to report, usually by calling in to some type of automated announcement.
I'm not sure how Washtenaw County operates, but misdemeanor probation usually requires minimal supervision and testing requirements. So in all likelihood Mr. Stonum missed a total of 9 random/scheduled tests over a 63-day period. And he was most likely only required to meet with his probation officer one-time per month, which he also failed to do on several occasions.
The failure to report nine times line is ambiguous. It could mean there were nine times he didn't report or that he didn't report all nine times like he was supposed to.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. There's definitely a key distinction there. If he reported eight of the nine times and just forgot the other time, then this is just an unfortunate situation (but the law's the law, so he can't really complain). If he never reported, or only did a couple of times, he has no excuse and deserves punishment.
Right, one is far more worrisome than the other.
"Very, very few (college kids) get DUIs."
really? what college do you go to?
Not many people know the name, but he was on his way to work one day as a teacher in Grand Rapids, when he was killed instantly by a drunk driver going the wrong way on the highway with no lights on. There is a Memorial golf tournament in Perry Michigan to raise funds for his wife to support their only child on July 31st. I have donated 4 tickets to the Bowling Green game as an item for the silent auction. Aaron was a big Michigan fan.
I know Stonum didn't kill anyone, but it is time we took drinking and driving seriously. I would at the very least like to see him run stairs for a few weeks.
Stonum has already been punished by RR for the DUI. He sat out a game last season. So, that is done. The new infraction, and the one he went to jail for, is not fulfilling the terms of his probation. There may be some new punishment from RR for that. We don't know.
While we all are in agreement that drinking and driving is a very serious offense and my sympathies are with the family and friends of Aaron Haynes, the reality is that Stonum has already been punished by Rodriguez for the DUI. I believe that he should be further punished for his probation violation, but a firm distinction needs to be made between the DUI that occurred several years ago and the more recent probation violation.
A failure to punish Stonum, hypothetically, wouldn't reflect that anyone is not taking drinking and driving seriously; rather, it would reflect how seriously the probation violations are taken.
while she was walking down the street. Car jumped the curb and knocked her into a dumpster. She was a Phd student.
My former UM roommate's mom was killed by DUI driver, she was sitting in her car outside their house. Car lost control and slammed into her.
Don't drink and drive.
This reporting is fair. Violating probation is a serious issue. Nobody is above the law.
disagrees. As does King George III. But I see your point.
No one has mentioned "second chances"...
He already got one. Maybe third chances?
Here's hoping that Stokes, Ricardo, or J. Robinson are prepared to step into a starting role against UConn, and possibly ND.
3 days in jail, for whatever reason, has a 1 or 2 game suspension written all over it. I would be a gigantic hypocrate if I made any other assertion considering my stance on every other teams' players' misgivings over the last year (MSU nerd beating, ND house-party-seven, the entire SEC) .
I recommend that Rich contact Coach Dantonio and the MSU football office for advice on handling this matter. MSU has always dealt with student-athelete jail time issues in the most professional manner and with the integrity of the program as the highest priority.
could be worse
"From May 15, 2009, through June 1, 2010, according to court records, he committed probation violations such as leaving the state without consent, failing to submit to random alcohol testing nine times in a 63-day span, failing to complete additional alcohol testing and failing to report for probation on multiple occasions." ...extenuating circumstances?
i.e. "Coach, I'm going home for a short visit and I'm going to miss the last few weeks of "random" alcohol testing." Wouldn't be the first time the "roll of butt wipe in Detroit" ommited a few important facts to attempt making rr and his players look bad or go look up "it doesn't matter, it's in the past" material for their machinations against them.
the freep is in my opinion is the worst newspaper in michigan
No question about that, but that's not relavent to the matter at hanb because it happened quite some time ago and he's already been punished for it.
The matter at hand is that he violated terms of his probation, which I am not going to comment on the relative stupidity on until I know the details I'm never going to get. This certainly isn't something to brush off, but I don't think he needs to miss any games over it, especially if the circumstances had anything to do with his living in Texas and violating parole for going back there. Stadium steps and a stern talking to are good enough, methinks.
RIght on. Failing to complete the terms of misdemeanor probation is not uncommon. Probation revoked, serve some jail time, case closed. The only reason this could become a problem for Mr. Stonum is if he had an agreement that he must comply with the terms of probation, or else. If that's the case, he can count on some addiitonal punishment coming his way.
That's being generous.
Unless the Freep is making this up out of whole cloth, Stonum is clearly flouting his legal responsibilities and he should be punished by RR. In addition to running steps from now until the beginning of the season, I'd also sit him for the entire UConn game.
If you think that's too harsh, I'd say that Stonum is showing that he really doesn't give a shit.
We just have to see if the Freep is spinning this or reporting the truth, for once.
I don't disagree with any of this. I just don't think he should be thrown out sight unseen. the proper approach to this is:
He's on EXTREMELY thin ice. He fucked up once, and was punished. But he has now fucked up TWICE and compounded the first fuckup. He needs to prove his commitment not only to the team, but to doing the right thing as a functioning member of society. If he does that, he's welcome back. If he does not do that...well, there's the door.
to be addressed. However, every time this happens to a player the Freep has to jump on it. You can find this issue at high-schools and colleges across the world. Why doesn't the Freep write an article that addresses drinking in sports and propose solutions. The Freep is our local version of a gossip magazine ... pitiful. Go Blue !!!
Every paper reports prominent sports figures getting DUI's.
While I agree that this is boneheaded move by Stonum, how did the FreeP get ahold of this? Do they have someone in the court clerk's office on the payroll, tipping them off on anything related to Michigan football?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that these instances (probation violations, jail sentences) aren't readily available to the public and that you'd actually have to do a fair amount of digging (e.g., requesting court records) to find something like this out. If that's indeed the case, it further relegates the FreeP to the ranks of the tabloid newsrags.
This is public record. IMHE, its kinda lame and weak that it took the Freep this long to bring us the story.
Maybe Crime Reporter can correct me, but I spent some time on the police/court beat, and this would have been public record the second the gavel comes down and readily accessible through the district or circuit court clerk's office. The proceedings were open to the public as well. I worked for a weekly up in Charlevoix and as one of my many beats covered the courts. One day a week I would pour over all the circuit and district court findings to see if there was anything worth reporting. Police repoirts, accounts of any witnesses, eventual sentences, they were all there and I didnt have to FOIA anything. I just asked for it. Now, most of the juicy stuff worth reporting was on going, so if I saw anything good I would do a basic wrtieup, then put the next court appearance on my calendar and then show up and watch.
Somebody must have been on vacation. Why this wasnt a story in mid June instead of mid July makes me chuckle at the Freep even more.
I did some court appointed community service with Darryl last summer...
At least he didn't blow a 2.18. Or was it 2.81? GRADY #1 Drunk Driver! #6 RB. :(