AP Poll: Michigan 18, coaches: 17

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1 Alabama
Alabama (56)
Record: 3-0
PV Rank
1
Points
1,496
2 Oregon
Oregon (4)
Record: 3-0
2
1,418
3 Clemson
Record: 3-0
3
1,340
4 Ohio State
Record: 4-0
4
1,320
5 Stanford
Record: 3-0
5
1,270
6 LSU
Record: 4-0
6
1,167
7 Louisville
Record: 4-0
7
1,088
8 Florida State
Record: 3-0
8
1,049
9 Georgia
Record: 2-1
9
1,029
10 Texas A&M
Record: 3-1
10
1,011
11 Oklahoma State
Record: 3-0
11
849
12 South Carolina
Record: 2-1
12
828
13 UCLA
Record: 3-0
13
798
14 Oklahoma
Record: 3-0
14
689
15 Miami (FL)
Record: 3-0
16
687
16 Washington
Record: 3-0
17
559
17 Northwestern
Record: 4-0
18
477
18 Michigan
Record: 4-0
15
450
19 Baylor
Record: 3-0
20
441
20 Florida
Record: 2-1
19
414
21 Mississippi
Record: 3-0
21
342
22 Notre Dame
22
256
23 Wisconsin
Record: 3-1
24
130
24 Texas Tech
Record: 4-0
25
127
25 Fresno State
Record: 3-0
27
110

 

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gwkrlghl

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^

is actually right at the moment. We shouldn't be ranked. If we actually did the "Don't release polls till week 5 or 6", I'm not sure we'd be in there. However, we are still 4-0 which I suppose counts for something

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Old_Guys_Rule

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^

While UConn is bad-mouthed after losing to FCS Towson and then to Maryland, maybe they aren't as bad as advertised.  Towson is now 4-0, the same as Maryland, who is now ranked No. 28 in the polls.  I'm wondering: Did UConn just have a bad game against Towson, maybe overlooking them, to lose that game, and their loss to Maryland is not a bad loss?  When Michigan gives the opponent 4 critical turnovers in a game including a gimme touchdown to a fire them up on their home field, it is sometimes difficult to right the ship in mid-course of a game.  Fortunately they did enough to win the game.

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champswest

September 22nd, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^

at this point in time. I don't think we are playing like a top 25 team. Perhaps we have over-rated this team. The loss to Akron may have been a let down from the ND game, but what is the excuse for last night. We have scored a total of 52 points in our last 2 games. Yesterday, at least 18 teams scored over 50 points and 3 of them scored 70 or more and it came against better teams than what we played. This team has a lot of issues to address.

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Yeoman

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:34 PM ^

Massey Power ratings (NCAA rank in parens) going into the weekend:

  • Bethune-Cookman 37.42 (127)
  • Connecticut 36.91 (133)
  • Florida International 27.87 (194)
  • Florida A&M 15.23 (295)
  • Idaho State 12.51 (325)
  • Savannah State 4.95 (401)

Akron's 2 points worse than UConn, if anyone's wondering (of course that's with the benefit of the performance against Michigan, which Connecticut hasn't been credited with yet).

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Giff4484

September 22nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM ^

They think because we have top 10 recruiting classes and looked good against ND that we should blow every team out we play. Michigan has and has had a major issue with our lines for over 5 years now. We are still trying to develop talent and depth and the only way Miller, Kalis and Glas get better is with experience. Devin's issues can be corrected. I'll take 4-0 over and over. Who cares about style points or what Buckeye fans say.

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M-Dog

September 22nd, 2013 at 1:44 PM ^

Who cares about the rankings?  They are only relevant if you are in the hunt for the National Championship.  We will be lucky to be in the hunt for the Legends Championship.

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A Lot of Milk

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM ^

At the moment, we have the best record in college football. At this time last year, we were 2-2. I understand that we look absolutely ridiculous, but as long as we keeping, does it really matter? Coming back from 14 down in the 3rd quarter on the road at night is impressive no matter who you play. Defense looks strong, offense has a lot of raw talent. At the very least, I'm really excited for this team next year.

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bacon

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^

We came back from being down 14 late in the 3rd quarter on the road against a team that was playing pretty well against us and had a lot of momentum.  I can't remember the last time we did that, but I think that people are discounting how tough that is to do.  

Meanwhile, we had a lot of inexperienced guys (in many cases playing in their first road game) who made critical mistakes, like Da'Mario Jones touching the punt by accident for the TO, Bolden missed his coverage on the TE on the first TD (according to chris speilman),  Jourdan Lewis (?) unsportsmanlike conduct that wiped out the huge Dileo punt return and Devin Gardner with the butt-fumble and the failed 4th down conversion fumble.  You'd like better, but at least now they know they can overcome adversity.

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Bo Nederlander

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:19 PM ^

And on a side note, I don't think this team is bad at all. We have the potential to be very special. We're just playing bad. In part Devin's confidence, the middle of the O-line, and Borges, the latter of which is our real problem. 

Also, I was surprised and angered that Braden and/or Bryant were substituted in at LG. I still think Bryant gives us a better chance at winning simply because he's much better in the run than Glasgow. Be good when we finally get Kugler in at C as well though he's unproven. Borges has an ego the size of Montana and it's making me angry as fuck.

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mackbru

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 PM ^

M should be grateful to be ranked in the Top 20, especially since ND is clearly no great shakes. Fortunately, being in the B10 will allow us to maintain an inflated record, at least until November.

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alwaystrueblue

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^

that this is a VERY average team that is just a few plays from being 2-2 with losses to a couple of very bad teams.

 

Stop making excuses for Hoke. He has not had this team prepared for what EVERYONE here thought would be a couple of big time blowouts. When we looked at this schedule in the pre-season we ALL had us winning these games by 30-40-even 50 points.

 

This team is not good at any one thing. Not defense....not offense...not line play...not running backs...not receiving...not kicking (punting)...not play calling.

 

Either we have vastly over-rated players or vastly over-rated coaches.  I tend to think its coaching. I see very little improvment in any area.

 

 

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glewe

September 22nd, 2013 at 5:19 PM ^

I'll be honest; I've wondered about the quality of coaching since the Notre Dame game.

Borges needs to get Gardner off his "third play" high. With two defenders in your face, you can't always get the third play. Deal with it, and take the sack.

When Denard was here, Borges knew he needed fundamentals work. But they seem to have taken the fundamentals for granted with this offense.

Actually, sometimes it looks more like sheer athleticism is the only thing that bails us out. When Gardner runs in for a touchdown after making an adjustment that sparked Hoke to try and call time out, it looks more like Gardner is a smart athlete and Hoke--shrugging aside--is not making the right assessments. Possibly no touchdown if Hoke succeeded in getting his call.

The only big coaching name worth his salts right now is Mattison. Mattison's players took a week of practice and bounced back. Mattison identified what Borges seems unable to have identified: The problem is that we're trying to perform on a higher level when we don't have the fundamentals down. We can't say the same for the offense that we can say for the defense.

If Borges and Hoke look back and work on fundamentals like Mattison did, then we'll be in much better places in the coming weeks. But if they don't, then we're gonna be in trouble again.

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LSAClassOf2000

September 22nd, 2013 at 6:07 PM ^

"This team is not good at any one thing. Not defense....not offense...not line play...not running backs...not receiving...not kicking (punting)...not play calling."

Just because I am a nosy bugger, from a statistical standpoint, please define "good" for each of these, if you would be so kind. I am intrigued by this statement. 

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alwaystrueblue

September 23rd, 2013 at 1:07 AM ^

but if you honestly think we are "good" at any of those things....i think its YOU that needs to do some explaining.

 

The simple fact is....if you are impressed by any of those areas i mentioned....carry on.

 

You are in an extreme minority and the very definition of a slappie. 

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AlwaysBlue

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:09 PM ^

Whoa negative nellies. This is a young team that should be expected to keep developing. I will choose to be happy that these last two games will keep the team and staff real and focused.

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john22

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM ^

mean nothing,squat,ditto! Michigan found a way to win last night. Michigan is finding ways to close out teams this year,last year we lost those games. The bye-week came at the right time for us. MICHIGAN will get this right.

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alwaystrueblue

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^

anyone that points out the incredibly obvious is a negative nellie.

 

Stop living in la-la land.   Wed are not good despite being 4-0.  Thats the cold hard truth.

 

I love drinking the kool-aid of being fabulous just because its MICHIGAN.

 

If it was MSU or Ohio that did this exact same thing with the same 2 teams the slappies on here would be crowing about how pitiful and lousy they were.  But...because its Michigan we are supposed to make any and every excuse we can about being young and whatever, blah blah blah...

 

All we heard last week from the players and coaches and the posters on here was how we were going to correct the "hang-over" effect coming off the ND game that we suffered against Akron.

 

Now all we are hearing is we just need this bye-week to correct it all. Well guess what....after the week off we start to play the REALLY big boys. If we play like we have the last 2 weeks....its not going to be pretty.

 

I love my Wolverines as much as anyone alive. Just dont try to get me to live in your world of denial.

It is what it is....

 

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Wolvie3758

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:38 PM ^

Im ok with where we are at...I know that last 2 weeks have been difficult to watch but  the bottom line is they are 4-0..Including a win over Notre Dame....UCONN played VERY well last night and we were pretty bad However we stormed back and WON...two weeks in a row the defense won the game for us...Ill take that.....Now we can rest. prepare for B10..work out the kinks and get healthy ....  Have you people seen whats going on?  its called Parity...FCS teams are beating FBS teams way more frequently and are very competitive in many others...UCONN is only 2yrs removed from a BCS appearnce..its not like this was App St....a win is a win is a won and were 4-0...

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Njia

September 22nd, 2013 at 4:03 PM ^

Which game were you watching? UCONN got a whole 47 yards rushing and just 206 overall. We gifted them 14 of the 21 points they scored. 

Yes, I will take the 4-0 over 2-2 any day, so don't bother asking. But there are at least 3 other teams in the B1G playing MUCH better than we are, and perhaps another 2-3 playing at least as well as are. 

We could be in for another long, long season if Hoke & Co. don't come up with some answers.

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cozy200

September 22nd, 2013 at 6:20 PM ^

And poor line play makes any team look great on defense. Im glad we're 4-0. That said, I'll mirror hoke here... "We have some major problems". No way should a uconn and Akron hang around like they did. One week sure anything can happen. Two in a row? We have some serious issues. I love this team but lets all be adults and face reality. Also, mirror hoke, time to hold people "accountable".

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chatster

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:39 PM ^

Saturday night on an airstrip that now was Rentschler Field,
Fans witnessed too many turnovers for Michigan to yield.
O-Line’s blocking wasn't gelling; Fitz and Devin forced to stumble
And then in the third quarter UConn scored a pick-six fumble.
 
But U-M’s defense held up strong; Frank Clark finally got his sack.
Down twenty-one to seven, determined Wolverines fought back.
Fans in Maize and Blue who’d been feeling awfully sick
Were feeling slightly better after Gibbons’ game-winning kick.
 
But then as Sunday dawned, and they'd had time for more reflection,
Skeptics said, “Team One-Three-Four has got to find correction.
“We’re fine with Desmond Morgan’s great one-handed leaping grab,
“But we'll need some more experimenting back in U-M’s lab.”
 
The AP’s ranking slipped again and now Drew Sharp’s not the only one
Whose vote for now says Michigan’s Top Twenty-Five ranking's done.

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WolvinLA2

September 22nd, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^

I've said this is another thread, but we handed UConn two TDs on fluke TOs. The Gardner INT thing seems to be a trend, but that fumble for a touchdown was just a weird play, as was the muffed punt. Yes, both of those plays involved "mistakes" by our team, but if that punt bonces a different way or a Michigan play falls on DG's fumble, we win that game by double digits on the road. If both don't happen it's a blow out. Both teams had a muffed punt, it just so happened that UConn recovered both (which is just a luck/chance thing). If that goes 50/50 or if we recover both, the result of the game is completely different. Point is, when the ball doesn't bounce your way on the road and you still win, take it.

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