Anyone who can give a scouting report on Texas?
We are fans, we can look ahead as far as we damn well please.
They look like chumps who went undefeated in a conference that should be ranked below the MVC.
/notevenjoking
We all need a scouting report on Texas first.
According to Brian they are tall, athletic and cant shoot very well.
Sounds an awful lot like Michigan State to me........
MSU led the B1G in 3-point shooting in league play.
Texas is much, much worse from the perimeter.
Yes, Texas is offensively challenged in the way that Ohio State is offensively challenged. Also pretty solid defensively.
Like I said. They are tall, athletic and cant shoot very well. They sound an awful lot like Michigan Ohio State to me.
In the "common opponents" world, they lost to MSU by 14 (92-78) and are pretty much scuttling after an impressive 4-0 run against ISU, KSU, @Baylor, KU at the end of January. I'm not sold they'll get by ASU, though.
Don't you mean wofford? We play on thursday, clearly had tired legs today and if we shoot 25% again we will lose to anyone with the matador defense we play. Of course we should win but I don't think you can look at how the team played today and be worried more than one game out.
In terms of Texas when they play well they can beat anyone, they have beaten kansas, iowa state, unc and baylor this year, mostly at home but still, not great for us.
I don't know about tired legs. Maybe a lack of energy due to frustration. and 3 days rest is plenty for these kids. I also think today's defense was worse than usual because they didn't want to get hurt. I don't think they even tried to take a charge all game.
It's not 3 days rest, they get home at some point tonight and will leave probably early wednesday, that gives them 2 days at home and if we do win that will be 5 games in 8 days, I don't care who you are that's a lot and is going to take something out of you and when you have tired legs the jumpshot is the first thing to go.
Eh, I don't know. MSU's legs didn't look too tired. Maybe they took their five hour energy. I'd worry more about frontcourt depth and defense.
MSU's legs were definetely tired, thats whay a team that shoots 40% from 3 on the year went 1-15 to start. Like I said jump shots are the first thing to go.
The reality is, when shots aren't falling, MSU is clearly in a better spot than we are. We depend on shooting to win, MSU has other (interior) options. Both teams looked tired. MSU dealt with it better. Neither team will be in that position again this season.
IDK, I don't buy it. these are 18-21 y/o kids. how many practices do they have in 8 days? these are 40 min. games with 60mins of 'off time' in embedded within (commercials, TOs and HT). Our bigs didn't play much today.
they will do a scouting meeting/shoot-around tomorrow, practice Tuesday, travel Wed and play Thurs., then probably late Sat since we would presumably have a great TV matchup in round 2.
these guys would love to play 40 mins instead of practice for 2-3 hours.
They don't really bother playing defense in aau it's not really the same thing and people get tired by the end of games, of course it can have a cumulative effect.
UM played three straight games. Even if they get 2 days off, that will be 2 more days than they got in this run.
Stop worrying.
after morgan and horford got fouls for breathing in the first 1 1/2 minutes, i watched befeildt (spelling help, please) take a beautiful charge under our basket. except that it didn't get called. after we went down 16-9 i knew it was nap time.
I'm in grad school at KU and went to the game in Lawrence a couple weeks ago. KU rolled them bad. Not very good shooters, lousy free throw shooters. When things go bad, they go real bad for them. SEE: Big 12 tourney game getting trounced by Baylor. They played well at home, not so much on the road. On a neutral site we should have a big advantage.
Same thought. A 7/10 game is basically a pick-um. Texas not much more likely than the Sun Devils.
Arizona state played a much easier schedule than texas has less impressive wins (they beat arizone in ot which is nice but that is pretty much it) and they have lost their last 3 including a bad loss to oregon state, they certainly look like a worse team and i would say texas is closer to 70/30 than 50/50 to win.
Texas had a nice run in the early part of the conference slate, but they were scuttling by the end of the year. Their RPIs are about the same (36 vs 44), and ASU played a slightly tougher schedule (58 to 65). Again, with that type of matchup you aren't going to be surprised if either team wins. I don't for a second think it is a 70/30 split that Texas will beat ASU, and regardless UM should have the advantage over either.
Honestly none of that stats stuff matters in anything between the 6 and 11s, 7 and 10s, 8 and 9s...anyone watching the tourney over time would know that. I'd put this at 50/50 just like any 7 and 10 matchup.
Didn't mean to suggest that Texas is a lock, or even a good bet, to beat ASU. Just that I have a better sense of who ASU is, and while I respect them I'm not overly concerned that they pose a potential matchup problem for us. Just trying to get a sense of a team that I know less about, and whether they are particularly built to take advantage of our weaknesses.
Arizona State is plenty capable of beating Texas, too. It's somewhere around 50/50 that we even face Texas, IMO.
Some key stats to consider should we get there (very likely, we will, but one game at a time)...
| TEXAS | MICHIGAN | |
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Points/Game
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74.1 | 75 |
| Avg Score Margin | 4.1 | 9.8 |
| Assists/Game | 12.6 | 14.4 |
| Total Rebounds/Gm | 42 | 31.9 |
| Effective FG % | 47.40% | 56.00% |
| Off Rebound % | 38.70% | 26.40% |
| FTA/FGA | 0.438 | 0.36 |
| Turnover % | 14.50% | 13.00% |
|
Opp Points/Game
|
70 | 65.2 |
| Opp Effective FG % | 46.00% | 49.60% |
| Off Rebounds/Gm | 13.2 | 7.4 |
| Def Rebounds/Gm | 25.4 | 22.1 |
| Blocks/Game | 5.9 | 2.5 |
| Steals/Game | 5.8 | 5.2 |
| Personal Fouls/Gm | 19 | 14.5 |
Thanks. Those rebounding numbers scare me. Go ASU, I guess.
The shotblocking scares me a bit, but they also give up 70 ppg. Considering people around here are bitching about this "horrible" UM defense that gives up 5 fewer points, we might see a blitzing.
Don't confuse tempo with offensive/defensive prowess. PPG is a bad metric for the latter.
Lets not move ahead of ourselves Wofford wont be easy
Fortunately none of us actually play for the team, so if we look ahead to the second round it will have absolutely no impact on what happens on Thursday.
I'm curious why it is apparently no problem for everyone to assess the strength of the 1, 3 and 4 seeds in our region, yet people are jumping up my ass for asking about a 7 seed who I assume Kenpom will give us approximately a 60% chance of actually playing.
Let's worry about Wofford.
Why the hell would you make this thread? Just inviting bad karma
Yes, if we lose to Wofford it will be all my fault.
Setting aside the fact that absolutely nothing I post will have any effect on the result of Thursday's game, do you really think that Beilein and his staff are going to spend the next three days exclusively scouting Wofford, and are not going to watch any film of either Texas or ASU until Thursday night? If so, you are very, very wrong. I just think it's strange that its OK for our coaching staff to think a little bit about potential second round opponents, but god forbid someone on a message board ask a question about one.
Also, I assume that you also called out Brian for daring to mention to #1, 2 and 4 seeds in our region on the main page, since they are all irrelevant right now and he is just tempting the karma gods. Everyone knows that once the NCAA brackets come out you have to ignore every aspect of them other than your first round opponent.
Looking at Texas v ASU, ASU is guard oriented (top 2 scorers guards- one near 20 ppg; Jahii Carson) with a big lumpy center as the 3rd scorer, while Texas is balanced with 4 guys between 10-13 pts, and two of them imposing physically 6-8, 240 F and a 6-9 280 lb C. Note - I am going off stats - not watching the teams play...
With our donut hole defense and lack of depth after Morgan inside, ASU seems like the better matchup for how UM is currently constructed ex-Mitch. I'll take our guards/small forwards to go toe to toe shooting with another team's guards/small forwards. Where we suffer will be power forwards who physically dominate GR3 and center once Morgan needs an oxygen tank.
I saw Wofford play in person this year. Would anyone be interested in me posting up a preview from what I saw???