Gopherquest--Minor League Baseball edition!
Anyone here ever play a sport professionally?
Yikes, that's pretty bad, since he's probably only playing in a Rookie ball division as well. My guess is probably he did not see many good pitchers in his HS league (not many good breaking balls or pitchers throwing in high 80s or 90s).
The National Beer Pong League. Went undefeated and impressed a lot of chicks but had a devastating thumb injury that ended my career
A friend paid me ten bucks to win a neighborhood competition.
Hitting a baseball thrown by professional pitchers isn't one of the hardest things to do in all of sport. I actually think there's a decent chance that you couldn't put the bat on the ball twice if you're given nothing but breaking balls, and high heat.
However, world class athletes are supposed to have superior hand-eye coordination, so this is an incredible stat line.
ugh posts like these only go to show that we need football season asap.
make me wish the posting threshhold was 650.
The National Self-Gratification League... all star
Nice to see another NSGL rep here. I'm on the Hall of Fame ballot this fall. Fingers crossed...
If it's the Self-Gratification League, can't you pretty much just let yourself into the Hall of Fame?
You might be doing it wrong...
You're paid to.....
Kinky. Especially if you're paying yourself.
If he was drafted by the Red Sox, plays on a Red Sox affilliated (minor league) team, then one assumes he has to be compensated by the Sox correct? Yet the article says he's still attending Washington this fall.
Is the Golf Coast League a glorifed summer AAU type league?
Well, I know, he can be paid for playing baseball as a professional if he doesn't play NCAA baseball. IIRC Pat White played minor league baseball in the offseason and collected a check, then could play NCAA football. But he wasn't eligible for NCAA Baseball.
If he's playing baseball at Washington, I don't know the loophole off hand
He won't be playing baseball at Washington, which the NCAA wouldn't allow. He's just playing football there. See also this article:
Signing with the Red Sox would have no impact on Thompson’s eligibility at the UW. The NCAA allows individuals to play one sport professionally — as [Jake] Locker did with baseball — while still maintaining their eligibility in all other sports. Choosing to sign with Boston would, however, make Thompson officially a walk-on when he arrives at the UW later this year, freeing up another scholarship for the Huskies.
I believe Henson did the same thing when he was here. He played baseball in the summers for the Yankees, then came back in the fall for the football season. Many still believe if he had just stuck with 1 sport all the way through, he'd still be in the pros right now for that sport.
You spelled Jeff Shamalamadingdongdjzia incorrectly.
Brandon Weeden as well.
I think you can play professionally as long as it's a different sport than what you play collegiately, or something dumb like that.
Thanks for the replies. This further lowers my confidence in the NCAA governing system.
You had ANY confidence? Are you also confident in FIFA's governing ability? /s
Quite do the same thing. He (And Joe Bauserman) both retired from baseball after flaming out in the minors; they just enrolled in college not right out of HS.
and he doesn't get the money until after. Jake Locker played for the Angels farm teams. A lot of guys do that. We had one awhile back, I can't remember his name. He ended up playing for the White Sox and Samardzija plays for the Cubs.
Clayton Richard backed up Chad Henne for a couple years. He's in the San Diego Padres rotation now.
I'm no expert, but I think there are a couple of requirements.
First, you have to be a professional in a different sport from the one you want to play in college. So minor league baseball and college football is ok.
Second, you can't earn money from sponsorships, or you will be deemed ineligible for all sports. This is why Olympic athletes - who are technically amateurs because they're not competing for cash - are still ineligible for college sports, as the vast majority of them make their money through sponsorships/endorsements. This is also why Jeremy Bloom - Colorado football player and amateur (but sponsored) freestyle skier - was deemed ineligible to play college football.
So you can get paid a salary in a different sport, but you can't be sponsored/endorsed in any sport.
Former baseball players also include Chris Weinke, Dennis Dixon, Ricky Williams, Qunicy Carter, among many others.
Basically right on, except that Olympic athletes are no longer required to be amateurs and many compete in prize-money events. Pros in every sense of the word. Not that it's relevant to your solid post.
The reason sponsorship is a problem is that the sponsor money can be seen to be earned as a result of the athlete's public image, which is often bolstered by their participation in the NCAA governed sport. It may seem picky, but it actually makes a lot of sense. Imagine Terrell Pryor playibg minor league ball to get a Nike "Baseball" sponsorship that happens to be worth $750k/year.
I got a beer to play rugby. Blew out my knee in the first 10 minutes.
I played JUCO football with a O lineman who went to Miami(YTM) then was drafted, I actually think he had more benefits while he was at Miami lol. Still very good friends with him, he said the level of competiton from JUCO to D1 to NFL was mind boggling.
Oh I'm sure the jump is incredible. And Miami's benefits, after all that Nevin Shapiro stuff came out via Yahoo! Sports, I find it hard to believe that anyone was getting more benefits by being an NFL player than by being at Miami.
Oreo Double-Stuff Racing League, two-time champ.
I worked youth lacrosse camps when I was in college. Too bad I blew all of my earnings on beer and loose women every night.
Must not have been loose enough if you had to spend money on them
HaHA, with age comes wisdom. I had little age and less wisdom back then.
I can drink a lot of beer...
That's my best sport as well. I've actually become quite ambidextrous, and can generally drink with both hands. I'm also batting 1.000 on drunkenness. I should be hearing MVP chants soon.
I wanted to post this yesterday but I thought the MGoPolice would deem it not thread worthy. Carry on.
Twas also my worry, but oh well... what else is there to talk about?
If Semi-Pro counts, then yes. If not then no.
I played for a semi-pro football team when I lived in Florida.
Well you're a predator with a frickin laser on your shoulder. I would hope you could play football. Smh.
If only I had more of a cannon as an arm...
Resend the invite to diddykd for IU in your DYNASTY.
I gave you the wrong gamertag.
I also played on a semi-pro football team out here in LA. I only played for a year, but it was awesome.
EDIT: To answer your question, I got no preferential treatment of any kind. Except that one of our D linemen was a bouncer, so I got to skip the line at The Shore on the weekend.
Assuming your LA is Los Angeles and not Louisiana. Actually, I'm starting to look into moving back there.
For the Capital City Stealth in Lansing. I start at MIKE and measure out at 6'1" & 230 lbs. with a 4.7 hand timed 40 when I was tired and out of shape. We have 4 games left and only 2 losses. Playing at Edsall field in Detroit Saturday night if anyone wants to come.
true identity. With that caveat, here is sample of my experience as a professional athlete:
I played college football for, and graduated from a large university. I was a backup my first two years, while my teammate and future NFL quarterback led our team to an undisputed national championship. When I first enrolled in college, I was seventh on the depth chart and had an intense struggle to get some playing time. At one point, I hired a sports psychologist to help me cope with frustration and anxiety and even considered transferring to another school. I battled for the starting job and ultimately starting every game for two seasons. During my first full year as starter, I set school records for most pass attempts and completions in a season. We won 20 of 25 games when I started and shared a Conference title. In my final season, I led our team to an overtime win in a bowl game against Alabama, throwing for 369 yards and four touchdowns.
My professsional career has been somewhat uneventful in the NFL. Although I am know for treating my reammates on the OL to some lavish gifts for keeping my ass safe. Also, you are probably familiar with some of the hot (we are talking "world-class" hot) ladies I have associated with during my career.
In the unlikely event you are able to guess my idenitity from this brief bio excerpt, I ask that you respect and protect my privacy. I value my anonymity and don;t want to be hounded by hero worshipping fanboys (fangirls? Yeah, OK).
You didn't have to give it away. You could have just said yes.
Way to use wikipedia's summary of your college career almost word for word.
through my classes. Curse you Interwebs!
Nick Sheridan! It's an honor.
you just used the S word. tht is uncalled for....now wash out your mouth with soap.... slap yourself as punishment and never use it again.
This happens quite a bit. Anthony Alford, who is going to be attending Southern Mississippi in the fall on a full football scholarship (and may be their starting QB) is a 3rd round draft pick of the Toronto Blue Jays. He signed a contract with the Jays who have agreed to let him play football.
I competed in Fists of Fury Tournament in Tokyo under the name Bruno Hockaluggi. I took 3rd place but felt like a champion.
To be fair, Shaq has seven base-on-balls.
never ever swing.
But by night, I am a crime-fighting superhero.
i don't know about y'all, but i would LOVE MeganGoBlue's perspective on how hard it is to hit a professionaly pitched baseball. I mean, I sort of feel like I could get at least ONE hit in 32 attempts.
Once read somewhere that ignoring making contact half the people in the world wouldn't be able to get the bat into the hitting zone by the time the ball got there.
I would have went pro too, if I wasnt 5'6 and slow.
I used to be a pro, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Does pocket pool count? I'm a pro.
I heard about you, you requested to play only on away fields.
Yes. I was a football player at Auburn.
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Back in the 1980s I had a stint as a professional Ninjutsu fighter. I got into a bit of trouble when I went AWOL from the army to participate the Kumite, an illegal tournament in Hong Kong. Totally worth it, though, as I was the first westerner to have ever won the tournament. My last opponent was a real dick, though, threw sand in my eyes and everything.
When it comes to any and all martial arts training, there really is no substitute for kicking trees over.
huh who would've thought. i'm kicking trees over from today onwards like its my job.
is crippling anxiety a sport?
You know what will help with that? Stimutacs.
And if that doesn't work? More stimutacs.
as Marduk would say, "eat some more pills, pillhead".
suppose to be in reply to GoBlueinTx
"What's the diffference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?!"
My wife had some e-sport sponsorships back when she was in high school and undergrad. I used to think I was decent at Starcraft, but against her I normally never even live long enough to map out her full base.
I flipped her monitor off once thinking it would give me a few seconds of respite and be funny. She just left it off, continued hitting hotkeys for her bound commands and slaughtered me. At this point it's just pure muscle memory and it's creepy as hell that she can visualize the map in her head.
but then I remembered your wife is Korean.
I too was like 'WTF??'. Korea, the land where people play Starcraft UNTIL THEY DIE
BTW It's not genetic; my folks are Korean, and I absolutely suck at the game.
As a Koream friend described video games:
"It's not really a good game unless at least two people starve to death playing it in Korea."
They actually have laws about that now where the internet cafes have to close and the time you can play new releases is limited.
You better hope that's all that she remembers that well.
(Oh, who am I kidding...wives never forget ANYTHING you ever do wrong).
...and you still haven't "mapped out her full base"?? C'mon man.
I was paid (not handsomely at all) to play in a Mexican soccer tournament in St. Louis while I was still playing in college. It wasn't completely obvious at all. Seriously. A 6'4" white goalie surrounded by a team of 5'6" field players.
So, define professional. I don't think it counts, but by the loosest definition, I may be able to sidle in and quasi-qualify.
to get paid to play semi-pro?
The question was not: Has anyone committed any NCAA violations? That can be a different thread.
You can start it yourself - as soon as we have at least two more video game threads.
"Have you committed any NCAA violation" has the potential to be an awesome thread, maybe as awesome as any this offseason.
I would read that thread avidly. Heck I could even CONTRIBUTE to it, although not with anything terribly interesting.
I raced cars in some pro series.
I'm Ted Brogan. I played a little minor league ball in the 80's. I was supposed to play in Japan, but I failed a drug test.
Nobody failed drugs tests in baseball in the 90's!
I got papers if you got weed!
Big D (Dallas, TX) Winter league 2012 Flag Football Champions "Balls Deep!" Best part is in the championship game we wiped the floor with the same team that beat us twice in the regular season! Hooray for playoffs!
Collegiately (football) - yes.
Professionally - not a chance...
I was a pornstar. Does that count?
Did you just get stopped by the TSA?
2 girls 1 cup remake; 2 boys 1 cup?
If I was on a computer I'd neg you for failing to mark this comment as not safe for lunch.
Lol. It's really not safe for anything.
I felt like clawing my eyes out when I saw it (back in the day when I was on Rivals' Mainboard).
Said the guy without any pants on.
All I can say: I love MGoBlog. Thank you for the laughs, it has made hump day a little easier to get through this week.
Like a moth to a flame, young Shaq Thompson will inevitably wear the uniform of the Chicago Cubs.
Does playing in the NCAA pool against some of the players count? Of course, I didn't win that year, so I guess I didn't get paid.
and Three-Cornered Pitney
who captained UM's baseball team, pitched several years in the bigs and garnered a world series ring....
If an average Joe of decent athletic capability went out to bat against a major league pitcher and was thrown 100 pitches could they get a hit? Fatigue for both was not a factor - average joe could swing at 100 without getting tired and the pro could throw 100 and not be fatigued. The pro also get to use his entire repertoir; fast balls inside, breaking balls, etc.
My buddy's reply was "No, he wouldn't get a hit." He said that it takes probably darn near 100 pitches to even comprehend the speed with which the ball is coming at you as a novice. Throw in brush-back pitches and the hitter would be helpless.
So Shaq, don't feel too badly.
On a scale of 1-2, how many hands does this friend have?
Although I did live 5 feet from him in Rumsey Hall freshman year.
that. Although I'm 100% blind in one eye and can barely hit a slow pitch. It's pretty pathetic.
With Shaq's ability to cash a paycheck despite less than stellar numbers, my question:
Why don't college football teams have 'baseball' teams, which are unaffiliated to the University, allowing players to get paid legally? What is stopping Stephen Ross from buying a minor league baseball team and paying Denard $100,000 to play a couple months in the summer? Maybe Treadwell can play 2B?
Seriously, how has this not been massively exploited?
EDIT: doesn't even have to be baseball, why not a semi-pro ultimate frisbee league or a board game league. Really it could be anything...
that once you get paid to play any sport professionally, whether it be frisbee or football, you can't play any collegiate sport again.
So what would you say to Russel Wilson and Brandon Weeden. Read above mate, there are ncaa provisions to get paid for a sport you are not partcipating in college.
basically, they can, but they can't get paid an amount that is significantly higher than what average is? If I understood that correctly, that's about the biggest load of garbage rule ever. If you play a pro sport, you shouldn't be allowed more eligibility in college sports. IMO
As far as I understand the rules, players have to be compensated at or around the normal rate for the job they are doing. So if Denard could make $100,000 from another baseball team, having him play for Ross' team would be okay.
It's similair to a player getting an ordinary summer job, it's totally cool if they get a normal hourly wage consistent with what you or me would make and get paid only for the hours they work and receive no extra benefits. Some of the big scandals seem to be guys working at car dealerships and getting paid way too much to be a porter or car cleaner or something and getting paid twice as many hours as they actually work.
If only RDT was here to tell us about his special treatment as a semi-professional blogger!
Where people watch 17 straight days of EURO 2012 until they die..? Poor guy didn't even make it close to the finals.
Back in the 80's I played tennis against Ivan Lendl as part of a promotional challenge thing - I was the top ranked player for my age group in my state.
I think it's probably in the same realm where you would think that getting at least the bat on a ball from a MLB pitcher or getting at least the racquet on the ball from a Lendl serve would be possible.
First serve I faced from him blew past me before I even knew what happened. I figured I would be more ready for the second serve, so I tried to anticipate his direction and stuck my racquet out there as he started to connect with the ball -- needless to say, he picked up on this and went at the other side of me. Very embarrassing.
After that he slowed everything down and we just kind of rallied for a while.
It was a whole different level from anything I had ever seen before.
I played three seasons in A-ball with the Phillies. I was a LHP (6th round) and was supposed to be a decent prospect. I also almost committed to UM, but stayed in California for school. You lose preferential treatment very quickly unless you're a 1st or 2nd round pick. It is very much what have you done for us lately, and if they don't have money invested in you, they may not remember your name. Development is more important than winning, which sucks, but is reality. It's a grind, and horrible if you are in that kind of slump...I know, i got the Yips, saw a sports psychologist, and never recovered. Most people can't imagine how difficult that is to go through, but it happens all the time. That guy will be fine, as he is a tremendous athlete, and will probably make it in football, where less thinking is required.
There is nothing glamorous about minor league ball, and if you saw 150 guys in uniform in spring training, 130 would have very similar talent. Luck, health, and opportunity is what sets guys apart. You get drafted higher and sign for more $, you will get plenty of opps. I wanted to write a book about the minor leagues, but a guy just did it, and it became a NY Times bestseller.
but I was a porn star for a few years.....you may remember me, my screen name was Hollaback Atcha
I too played minor league ball and TeamHoke described the process well. After 9 years of 14-16 hour bus rides and watching the "GM's boys"(who put up similar numbers as yourself) pass you by, you quickly see that it isn't as glamorous as some would think. There were plenty of perks in smaller cities on the way up through the minor leagues in local dive bars and such but nothing more than what I am sure the most of you have when you have a friend who works at the neighborhood bar and you can skip the line. The sad thing about pro ball is it took the game I loved to play and turned it into an occupation, now I can't even watch an inning of it on TV. This is why I am slightly (cough* insanely) obsessed with college athletics. Which is a perfect segue into...... CAN COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLEASE BEGIN!!!
I played against John Tavares when he played for the Oshawa Generals fro 2005-2007, and with Steven Stamkos when I played for the Sarnia Sting for a couples years. Technically it is junior league but it was damn cool. On a side note I barely played and both of these individuals were signifigantly better than me.
Semi professional HR derby champ 5 yrs running.. I weigh a buck 85 and can knock the snot out of the ball ( Avg distance 275FT).. Dont wanna brag, but I am THE FUCKING MAN
Drafted by the Tigers in '87, played two years in A ball, short season and then long season A.
I really enjoyed the travel, crossword puzzles and the crazy people on my teams. I wasn't very funny or full of character, so the guys who were that kind of guy, I found a pleasant distraction to slumps and managers.
Cup O' Coffee (before I enjoyed coffee) and now get into MiLB games for free. That and a quarter gets me, you know the rest.
I held the door open for a Hall of Fame linebacker, does that count as professional sports.
Not a professional athlete, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn ....