Knowing that Saturday's coming gets me through every week, so yes, I'm looking forward to next week...hope we can show progress...
Knowing that Saturday's coming gets me through every week, so yes, I'm looking forward to next week...hope we can show progress...
Lose 1 game?!!!! Are you F'ing kidding me?
There is and always will be a lack of foresight in the football fan that I always seem to forget. Regardless of result, we still get to watch Michigan play this weekend.
If we lose by 40 its better than watching baseball and pretending to be excited.
If we lose by 40 its better than waking up, rolling over, checking for a TomVH post about recruiting and being disappointed.
If we lose by 40, its better than anything the off season brings.
Sit back, relax and enjoy the game. Yes, I'm weary of losing, but who isn't? Maybe the offense shows up with some consistency and we drop 50 on Illinois. This team is too much of a Jekyll and Hyde act to not be in the least intrigued to how we show up.. Heres hoping we have a resounding stomp of those illini.. (anyone care to explain WTF an Illini is?)
Seems like their logo used to have an indian in it.
Long story short: Group of indian tribes.
If we lose by 40 it is NOT better than spending the day shopping with my wife.
If we lose by 40 it is NOT better than being kicked in the balls by Zoltan.
If we lose by 40 it is NOT better than just about anything I can think of when we know that this should not be happening regardless of the excuse du jour because we still f'in lost by 40 and it hurts. Hurts for the players and hurts for the fans.
One of my favorite Clint Eastwood movies has a line where there is an indian character crying. He's asked why and he answers, "Because he (Eastwood character) cannot". We rant because the institution that is Wolverine Football cannot.
Whoa whoa whoa..
You would rather spend the day with your wife. Shopping. For things you probably don't need. Than watch Michigan play?
Jesus.. I thought I was in the dumps after Saturday, you my friend are literally the most unhappy fan on the planet.
Take it or leave it
(High-fives bros in audience.)
to the game next weekend and see improvement. I can imaging that the team is very disappointed in themselves and prepare harder and smarter. I'm sure they don't want a repeat of last years performance in the last half of the season.
I'm sad to say that I haven't been back to the Big House since 2006. My father and I (both alumni) scheduled this trip back for the Illinois game months ago and I've been stoked about it, right up until about 11:30 last night. Now I'm really bummed. I love Ann Arbor and Michigan football with everything I've got but for the first time ever, I'm really not looking forward to this weekend. Its a long trip for us and a lot of work to get there and I'm going to be even more frustrated if we come home with another loss. My emotions cannot take it. Please, Angry Michigan Football Hating God, please have mercy on my soul.
The new press boxes look fantastic and the stadium is louder...prepare to be wowed
Hey thanks for that pick-me-up! I appreciate it. I'll man up on the flight up and be ready to cheer myself hoarse. I just never imagined feeling like this about Michigan football.
Long trip up for my dad and I this weekend too. Win or lose, spending time with the guy who brought me into the stadium at age 2 and kept bringing me back until I was 18 is something to look forward to and be happy about.
I honestly just don't know when the cavalry comes in and that improvement arrives, would love to see it. Just been waiting on that corner for a while.
I'm still looking forward to the opportunity to watch my team live. The offseason is excruciatingly long, and seeing football being played every week is a privilege we forget we have...remember summer?
That being said, I think a lot of us were crushed not because we lost, but how we lost this weekend.
Either way, I'll be there cheering in full force. Defense, please surprise me.
Win would be huge. Illinois is the surprise team everyone is talking about. Great opportunity to turn things positive at a time when it is sorely needed.
Sadly, we have been saying this the past 3 games.
Well I'll tell you what . I sure am excited for another weekend i can go out to the bar and scream with a hundred other michigan fans for a team i love . And drink some good draft beer
The way the players respond to Saturday's game will have great significance. All year the team has said specifically that this is not 2009. Well, it's time to act. If we come out flat, then I see big changes on the horizen. And I don't think many people here would disagree with me.
That is an interesting point, but probably not in the way you meant it . . . I agree that seeing the defense come out flat (if the defense could get any worse) could spell doom for someone. But on the offensive side of the ball, there's not much else the offense could have done last night. They had two very tough games against MSU and Iowa (too many turnovers but still moved the ball against both teams) but they smoked PSU's defense, especially in the second half. I will be very sorry if the offense comes out flat - to me, it may mean that they've gotten fed up with carrying the load game after game. There's only so much that Denard and, yes, Rodriguez can do. I include Rodriguez because he's the mastermind behind the offense. Maybe his greatest fault is/was relying on the wrong people to run the defense. But that's not the crux of my post.
Im looking forward to it. If we can come out and score on our first possession i think we have a chance against ILL, but if we come up and do the same terrible play calling we did to start out PSU game then we are cooked.. That set the tone for the first half of the PSU game.
Looking realistically, we shouldn't have a problem beating purdue, but at this point i wouldn't put anything past our team.. The PSU game had the same impact the ILL game did last year, and it wouldn't surprise me if we lose every game the rest of the season.
If we make a bowl, i don't think there is any point to firing RR, because our offense can score on anyone, but something is gonna happen with our Defensive coaches im sure.
It is critical that we score on our first drive. Critical. This is not an offense built to play from behind. It is an offense built to play ahead or even. We basically have to assume that the opponent is going to score a couple touchdowns in the first quarter, so in order for us to do our thing offensively, we need to match that and set the tone.
Which makes the Vince Smith run on third and short on our first drive last night all the more maddening. It kills me when Denard tears himself apart to get eight yards on a keeper and then we can't finish off the first down for him. I don't blame Vince Smith here--I think he's a tough player and good receiver out of the backfield. But good lord we're getting awfully close to the definition of insanity on these third and short runs. Set Denard free from the first drive on!
The best we can hope from Vincent Smith is that he will be at full strength next year. The team misses the zippy back who looked good near the end of last year... much better than Shaw did.
The 3rd and 1 playcalling the past two years has been ridiculous, although it's of course treasonous to find flaws with our top ten offense. Maybe Hopkins and Cox have been fumbling like mad in practice... maybe.
To be fair, there is no offense that is able to come from behind when the defense allows the opposing offense to score on every possession. With the way that our offense played in the second half, we should have been in a great position to win. Not only does our defense allow a ton of points, they allow the other team to take 5-6 minutes off of the clock on every possession, giving the offense fewer chances to catch up. Time of possession doesn't mean dick, except when a team is able to bleed the clock with a big lead.
I am actually in favor of going back to an aggressive high-risk-high-reward defense, even if it means we get burned for some long TDs. If we get burned for a quick score, at least the offense gets right back out there to wear down the opposing D and to maintain their offensive rhythm. If the D is going to get smoked anyway, at least leave the offense enough time to respond, like with the ND Rudolph TD.
Never have I ever wanted a win more bad than I do now. It is killing me that we are but one win short of being bowl eligible. I want my confidence to be reestablished, but the more I contemplate things, I find I just don't know a damn fucking thing.
Thanks for calling us all pussies. What are we suppose to do keep silent about the struggles this team has had the last 3 years? Its what makes us fans. Now, I have season tickets and may be giving up the Illinois game only because I may have to work, and I'm usually gonna weasel my out of of work for the games, but this one I won't, mainly cause the work is more important this time, and I am afraid of what I will become if we lose saturday and I'm at the big house.
During the year and every person who said "I would have fired him after the first year" and to everyone who said "I knew that we'd lose to MSU it's just like last year first RR now". You should be shot you're a shitty fan.
Old yellar style
Well I agree with that, anyone counting us out before the year started is retarded. But I think to simply complain about how our team is performing is fair game to do. Some people take it too far , but mild complaining I think is warranted right now.
But when we were 5-1 playing Iowa the shit I heard was intolerable. People leaving at half time. Completely giving up on the team. Saying they'd fire him after the first year.
It's going to be so much worse this game. All I want to do is go to the game and cheer on this team as loud as I can and provide a good atmosphere for my Illinois friend who is coming to his first Michigan game.
I'm worried he's going to have a terrible experience and be like "WTF is wrong with your fans".
They were seriously leaving at halftime or was that an exaggeration?
He was walking upstairs and saw a fried and he said "I can't support this team with this coach im leaving".
Yes he was 50-60
I do wish Purdue was next week, so we could have a 'reasonably attainable' shot at getting the 6th win out of the way and build back a little confidence.
Illinois, by many accounts is a team on the rise, and I wouldn't be surprised if they continue the trend of 30+ points against our non-offense. Sure, we can and probably should beat Illinois, but I won't be surprised if we don't.
If nothing else, I want to see to our D sell out with pressure on Scheelhaase. I don't care if that means we give up big plays. Surely a time or 2 he'll make a poor throw or we can get a deflection. I'm so sick of our Cover-8/Bend & Eventually Break D at this point.
I look at the OP, then I look at bouje's signature, which features "A house divided against itself cannot stand," it makes me wonder just what exactly he's thinking.
the "shitty" fans are "shot Old yellar style" the house won't be divided anymore. Just the "good" fans 'll be left.
We all know your opinion. Boo hoo with Lloyd we are an 8 win team always!!!
Come on Bouje. You call our fans pussies, but you're the one who's already given up on us beating Illinois. I know, you said you thought we could definitely win it, but if you're really filled with dread when you think about next Saturday that means you don't believe it. Buck up. Just think how good and drunk you'll feel if we pull the upset.
I agree that we shouldn't pass judgment until the end of the year. Thing have gone horribly awry, but we should give Rodriguez the chance to prove our worst assumptions wrong. There's nothing wrong with speculating on a message board, though.
I just don't enjoy being around a bunch of fucktard Michigan fans. It was bad enough against Iowa but being around these people who would rather bitch than cheer on the team is.. Exhausting.
You want to know what my point was?
Look at what you just posted, then look at your sig, and evaluate. How are you helping by calling fans "fucktards" because they feel differently than you do about the state of the program?
And the stadium is not one of them. You can bitch on this board, email Dave Brandon just don't do it it at the stadium in front of the student athletes and recruits.
I am not, not looking forward to the game next week. I am very excited to watch the team get that 6th win and to watch the amazing Denard continue his record breaking season.
Support the team and yell "Go Blue"... even if it is just at the TV. Honestly, I know the team can hear me from my sofa. All of my neighbors can.
Even with the beating we took yesterday, and the self-protective numbness I now have regarding games, there's still a glimmer of hope - a what if? - that will never go away. Maybe this will be the game that will turn everything around. Maybe we'll pull this one out. When it comes to Michigan football, I'll always have that feeling.
Shitty teams beat good teams all the time. It's called college football. We're a very "predictive stats" fanbase. Random things happen sometimes.
We're shitty. Illinois is okay. A win is possible. A win would be cool.
I'll watch. It's almost liberating to have all expectations melt away.
I worry I'll be the only one not screaming for RRs head. Which would be just great for recruiting.
Oh bouje, you are the best fan ever!
I will be there for the first time in years. It will be the first time I have ever taken my Auburn fan wife of twenty years to Ann Arbor. If anyone around me boos, violence may not be out of the question. And there will be at least one other person there not out for RR's head.
That's just a fact. I paid as much for my ticket as you did, so if I need to bitch once in a while, then I will bitch. I'm 10X more likely to cheer and make noise for the team, but sometimes I can't contain all my frustration - it's just who I am. Usually when I'm negative, it's just "HOTTDB" or "catch the damn ball!". I'm NOT calling for RR's head, and honestly I haven't heard much of that around me. I suspect after the PSU game, we'll all hear it more often.
Illinois all year. They are simply better than us, and will out physical UM in every facet of the game just like the last two years.
Out physical? Are they really that much better at turning their head and coughing than we are?
I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday because it is one of either 12 or 13 chances that I get to watch my favorite football team play per year. Does the losing hurt? Yes. Am I going to apprehensively stare at the calender while crossing off the days this week, dreading the looming and inevitable passage of time that brings us to yet another Saturday? No. As a Michigan football fan I can't wait until Saturday. I wish it were tomorrow.
If we are not favored, a win will be that much sweeter and the crowd cheering louder.
was the "straw" that broke our back. Roundtree gets caught at the 1 yard line (on replay) ... we score and the game is essentially over. And then ... the infamous I - formation 4 straight times - NO SCORE and Illinois goes 99 yards on its way to scoring something like 70 points in the 2nd half.
I will take Denard, Tate or Devin in the shotgun with 5 wide receivers. This means we have our O line against 6 defenders total. Anybody want to bet against any of our QB's not getting 1 yard in 4 tries .... anyone ?
Yeah - I'll be there (after getting back to the hotel at 2a last night in Happy Valley then a very long drive home) & yes I wll be rooting hard - cause these kids deserve that. They are playing hard ...
Go Blue !
Was there last night as well. Even though we lost, that was still a great time there, that is truly an atmosphere everyone should experience.
My 2nd time to PSU. The 8p start made for a long day of tailgating !!! and the taunting increased through the day. Had to stand in line for the portas In My Home BLUE Jersey ... right behind 3 very vocal PSU students. They blew me shit all the way thru the line - but I kept up with them (cause I really don't hate PSU ... ND & OSU HELL Yeah). When I finally came out of the porta these 3 guys were waiting for me to tell me good luck and how they knew where I was coming from. Kinda ran into that most of the day !!! And it was a hell of a party where we were !!!
Go Blue !
I'm looking forward to it. I live in Cleveland and tailgate with my brother (who lives in Michigan) and about 15 other guys I've become friends with over the years. We'll eat, drink, cheer the team during the Victors Walk, talk ourselves into a victory, go into the stadim and watch what happens. I'll yell my ass off, second guess some calls and get chills when the band plays. After the game we'll go back to the tailgate, do a post-mortum on whatever happened, eat some more, drink some more and then go home.
Look forward to next week? Hell freaking yes!
For me it can't get here soon enough. There is always next week for the eternal optimist, of which I count myself as one. Wouldn't surprise me to see a bounce back effort.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a win next Sat at A2. Yeah I'm an optimist... and I haven't had anything to drink today too.
and anyone who comes out with "who's 'we'?" can kiss mine.
I'm looking forward to it despite Illinois holding Royster to 35 yards in a 33-13 win at Happy Valley 3 weeks ago. I guess I'm probably stupid.
I'm stupid too.
...I just can't do it any more. I can't get my hopes up every week, and then get beaten down.
It'll be my big 3-0 b-day weekend and I'm celebrating it by going to the football game with my dad and brothers on Saturday, and then doing the stadium tour on Sunday.
I honestly can't wait for the stadium tour, and just bought a new football with a T so I can practice throwing a touchdown and kicking a field goal. Hopefully RR will see me and give me a scholarship to the b-school Masters program.
On my new flat screen TV / surround system in my family room. Will have plenty of food and drink on hand, and I will enjoy every minute of it!
With the excecption of UMASS, the bye week, and Penn State I have been nervous for every Saturday the past two years. I have never played football, but I watch a lot of other college football programs tackle better than UM does.
I am starting to believe that its not just inexperience on the part of our young defenders, I really think its a lack of confidence.
I agree with a previous poster somewhere that said a new defensive staff doesn't make our Secondary more experienced. But I also agree that the DC should have some authority to hire his own assistants...
In short, I don't know what the answer is. I don't think that its negligence on the part of the coaching staff and I'm tired of reading people who do seem to think that.
I will enjoy every game this year - after the sixth win...
I've waited nine long months for the season to start in September, and I will continue to get excited for every Michigan football game, even if it looks like we'll lose.
As far as RRs job security I'm waiting until the end of the year to judge him and so should everyone else on this board
Amen & amen.
Yes, I'm looking forward to the game. I've gotten most of my bitching out of the way today and I'll believe a victory is coming. If we win, it will be my biggest celebration of the year. If we lose, I'll be ranting again. Michigan football is pretty much my only hobby these days. I love every game...even the games I end up hating. I'll still be fan with or without RR but I think it will end up being without him.
On a side note, I've been reading the stuff on the beloved blog since the game ended last night. It seems like the defensive guys are not where they are supposed to be way too much of the time. Is that really due to youth? It seems like youth would mean the players are doing exactly what the coaches tell them to do and not freelance. So I'm in the camp of the defensive coaching is the main problem. Of course, football is the one big sport I never played so I may be completely off base.
At the beginning of the season, I thought this game and Purdue would be locks. Having watched Ron Zook make a mess out of the Florida program a few years ago, I looked at what has been happening at Illinois and thought we would see them quickly dive into the crapper without Juice Williams. Somehow, the Fighting Zooks are playing very good football right now. If Michigan can't fix the defense in one week, this game could get ugly.
If there was ever a time for a quantum leap on that side of the ball, it is now. I haven't watched Illinois play enough to know their personnel, but after watching Michigan make Penn State's offense look like Oregon's, it would appear that Michigan is in trouble if Illinois has even half-decent personnel on offense.
On the bright side, the game is at home. This would be a great time to start playing well enough to win again.
I'm always looking forward to the next Michigan football game
to the Illinois game. I look forward to every Michigan game.
This will be our first test against a mobile QB this season. Maybe, just maybe, we'll be better because our D practices against our own mobile QB's. Then again, maybe I'm just sniffing glue. I'm more worried about the matchup against Illinois' defense. All that said, we'll probably win by 20. Great analysis and logic, eh?
After Warren left and Woolfolk went down and I read the pre-season preview with a walk-on at one safety and a converted wr at the other, I saw lots of 6-6 and 7-5 predictions with a few 8-4's thrown in. My reality for you guys is that Illinois provides another opportunity for our young defense to learn more and grow up, and that it ain't over 'till it's over!
Unlike most of you, I had to watch the game in Ohio surrounded by a bunch of OSU fans who root against Michigan while OSU rolls up 52 on the big ten patsy we don't get to play and that I have to remind them on occassion that "It is not my fault you could not get into business school at U-M!".......
I'll be there, driving for 6 hours to get there for kick-off and cheering for the guysin Maize and Blue to play hard, and supporting my team......No booing as long as the effort is there and the guys on the field and on the sidelines don't give up.....
About dealing with fans than potentially getting ass-raped by Illinois for the 3rd straight year. When losing doesn't frustrate you as much as fans....
There's always the hope that the defense could come with a good game and the offense will go crazy and we will win by 30 points. However, IL is much better team than I thought they would be this season. It will be a tough game but I think we may be able to outscore them. Though, like last year, I fear the pressure is building on this team to win that 6th game. I just hope the team goes out there and plays hard and have fun. Don't get too up tight. I just hope everyone attending the game will give a standing ovation to this team. They need your support!
I am looking forward to the game and can't wait to see our offense put up some good hilights. Just watching Denard run makes life good. Plus expectations are low enough for this game that even if loose, the fire RR crowd won't be so loud.
As a fan of our team through the great 90s, to the dreary last decade, I always find myself pumped on a football Saturday. Yet given the historically bad performance last week, the lingering voice of reason doesn't make me "look forward" to a potential repeat performance. I am excited to cheer the team win or lose. I am more interested to see how we respond, but last week if we're honest was sure deflating.
I will always look forward to
The reason you shouldn't be looking forward to the Illinois game is that UM is going to get beaten like a drum, especially on defense. Scheelhasse, while young and prone to mistakes, can run the read option effectively and is a significant step up from Matt McGloin, who you may have noticed torched us last week. Also, Mikel Leshore is the best running back we've faced all year. Add to that an improved Illini defense and, sans a lucky day where we are gifted +2/+3 in TOM, we are going to lose.
Call me crazy, but the fans are the least of what I'm dreading come Saturday.