Supposed to happen in a couple of years.
I understand playing MAC schools (after all; we play plenty of them), but it never looks good for a BCS school to play at a mid-major.
If anyone has a link, that'd help out.
Texas is going to Wyoming this year.
I had no idea. I never would have figured a school like UT would even consider doing that.
It is surprising, though I think it came up in the context of some complaining about UM playing at UConn in a few years.
Re: the OP - the point is obvious - he stated that obviously UM plays plenty of MAC (and now lower division) teams, but that it's unusual to play AT a MAC school. I believe that's true, unless other Big 10 schools have played at a MAC school?
Thanks for the info.
In recent years IU has played at Central, at Western, and at Ball State. This is because Indiana can't really pay well enough to avoid home and homes. They are typically (always?) night games, and pretty intense. IU has never lost those games, which is pretty amazing given the MAC-level talent they have to rely on.
and Ohio State @ Toledo (in Cleveland) here is more evidence of the trend of power conference schools having to go on the road outside the BCS (ignoring Vandy, Duke, Indiana and most of the Big East). All of these games are on this year's schedule -
Florida State @ BYU
Virginia @ So. Miss
Miami @ Central Fla
Va Tech @ E Carolina
Kentucky @ Miami (O) in Cinci
LSU @ Tulane
Ole Miss @ Memphis
Miss State @ Middle Tenn
Colorado @ Toledo
Kansas State @ La-Lafayette
Kansas @ UTEP
Iowa State @ Kent State
Missouri @ Nevada
Texas Tech @ Houston
Oregon State @ UNLV
Oregon @ Boise St
Pitt @ Buffalo
Even though colorado isn't exactly big time anymore, they are going to toledo. pitt went to toledo and lost like 4 years ago.
The MSU obsession presses on...
Sure, you can use that word if you want -- at least I didn't title the thread with "More proof that MSU is obsessed with us."
Just because someone brings this up, does not mean that we're obsessing. This same issue has been raised in regards to our own team, and others in the past couple months here, why can't we talk about it w/ regards to MSU?
I agree we need to tone down the Dantonio chatter, and the outrage over the media. I just don't see this post as any problem whatsoever. FWIW
EDIT: I didn't neg ya either.
they're billing it as a gift to the state of michigan. i don't really know why MSU agreed to it...they could have any of them in spartan stadium any year they wanted (more or less)
We're playing the Delaware State Hornets, therefore, we cannot make fun of another schools schedule.
Way to completely miss the point while trying to be a jerk. Bravo.
I got the point.
No, you didn't.
Not every thread that starts with "Hey, [rival] is [doing something]" intends to devolve into a point and laugh fest.
Did you perhaps notice the point that MSU is playing AT MAC schools?
I don't believe we are going to go play IN Delaware.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe WHERE the game is at is the point.
You are a dog with fleas
I'm pretty certain that it's safe to say that you didn't.
This makes perfect sense. If they play Northern on their turf, do you think UM will have any chance at the top shelf talent in Ishpeming, Negaunee, or Munising? Savvy, Mr. Dantonio. Very savvy.
Take it easy champ, us yoopers don't appreciate that sort of talk and we all know the top shelf yooper talent is from Hancock.
As I was actually born in Hancock, so I'm allowed the liberty. It's kind of like how my gay friends can say fag but I can't.
I've actually wondered if/when there has been yooper representation on the football team. Nobody comes to mind.
Edit: Check out the link at 3:15. My Hancock football teamate punting for State to Derrick Alexander.
Barry Pierson, the hero of the 1969 Ohio State game, was from St. Ignace.
Chassell...it's a football powerhouse waiting to happen. OK, maybe the wait is a little longer than expected.
You forgot Kingsford and Mennomonie, both quality high schools.
in the comments, it seems like every spartan fans defense of MSU is something like "well at least we aren't doing [insert football related activity] like UM/big sister/scUM!"
Hollis does it again! This is great for the state of Michigan and all of the schools involved. Hollis really scooped Bill Martin here. Does U-M have the lobes to play games at Central, Eastern, and Western? I guess we'll see.
to whatever spartan fan wrote that: don't hold your breath on bil martin getting the lobes (what?) to play at a directional school. it will never happen ever
The decision for every AD whether or not to play at any school outside the Big Ten comes down to, you guessed it, money.
The fact that Michigan has not arranged for a home-and-home with, say, a MAC team is because the money Michigan would lose is huge. A MAC school cannot pay out to the visiting team anywhere near what Michigan could garner from any Division I school -- not to mention the money Michigan would have taken in had the game been at Michigan Stadium. Another element to this is TV. Having a team like CMU play at Michigan is an easier decision for TV to pick up the game than it would be for a game AT CMU. This would encounter, I believe, a real encumbrance for the major TV networks. I am not saying the game wouldn't eventually be picked up, thus continuing the nation's longest streak of most consecutive games broadcast, but in Michigan's eyes, it would probably produce a very unfavorable date slot -- a Thursday night game.
One of the reasons to play away games in certain markets outside of the Big Ten is, for the most part, to benefit our recruiting efforts. Even with Michigan's recruiting tentacles spread very, very wide across the country, we still need to cater to certain markets.
Unless families like the Ross' or the Glick's want to pony up additional donations to replace the lost revenue from such an away game faux pas, it will be a cold day in hell before the winged helmets arrive in mid-major-ville.
in the booming metropolises of Remus, Coldwater, and Romulus will finally be able to see their school in person by making the short drive into Mt. Pleasant, Kalamazoo and Ypsilanti.
These are three-for-ones. As I mentioned during much of the UConn discussion, it is getting harder and harder to find FBS teams that will take a guarantee game, or the price paid by the home team for the guarantee game is getting higher and higher. The result is more games against FCS schools (Delaware State) and more road games against non-BCS schools (Texas @ Wyoming, Ohio State @ Toledo (in Cleveland), Wisconsin @ Bowling Green (in Cleveland 2008), etc.
RDL? Is that you?
>>it never looks good for a BCS school to play at a mid-major.
Bullshit. It shows they are not beholden to their wallets over every other consideration *cough* Delaware State*cough*
I think it's a class move (except for the part where it's like 7 home games to 3 road games, but whatever).
Wow. MSU is really going after the whole "Owning the state of Michigan" thing.
Watch out, Albion. You're next.
Man, I called for a temporary stoppage on MSU posts, and people continue to torture me. Make it stop please.....
WTB: normally, I'd be with you, but this one is just too funny to ignore. I was ready to try to get some tickets to the big MSU-Alma game, but I found out you can just drive your RV up to the fence on the visitor sideline.
I asked for a moratorium on "Sugarcoat"
See where that got me.
this probably benefits MSU, because they would keep the profit from 75% (3 of 4) of the games. They probably realized that that was more than cutting a check every year to the directional Michigan schools.
Also, they can claim that they "care about the state", are keeping money in state, and are enabling their fans to drive to 3 away games (since most of their fan base is in/ near MI.
It's a smart move. They need to dominate Michigan to be relevant and this helps.
However, if 3 of 4 OOC games are locked up, does this mean that their last game (probably ND) is all they get? If so, that's local as well.
It's 12 games over 10 years, so they aren't going to be playing all 3 in 1 season.
Not a complete future schedule, but you can see that State has some games with South Florida, Alabama and West Virginia mixed in as well.
In case it is yet to be mentioned: MSU's new deal is unprecedented in that they will visit ALL of Ypsilanti, Mt. Pleasant, and Kalamazoo in the next decade.
Indiana, Purdue, Missouri, and some others have all done 2-for-1s in recent years, for comparison. MSU's deal involves three 3-for-1's.
GVSU won quite a few D3 championships so it would boost Dantonio's ego big time. Finally a state team who actually beat someone good.
GVSU is D-II
No no, I'm pretty sure they're D-IV. Or DSM-IV. Or something.
Grand Valley is D-II
*COUGH* JUST DELETED THE FOURTH THREAD ON THIS TOPIC*COUGH*